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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

413 replies

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

OP posts:
JacquelineCarlyle · 15/08/2022 16:37

Well done Op. No decent man would take advantage like this and nor would he allow the DCs to treat you, your family or your home this way. You will be much better off without him.

Stay strong and good luck for later when you kick him out!

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 15/08/2022 16:38

You need to woman the fuck up. No man is worth your home and dc being abused.. Getting rid now will at least get you some of the school holidays left- to recoup some precious time with your dc before school returns.

And he can spend his trying to tame the feral brood.

AdoraBell · 15/08/2022 16:38

Haven’t RTFT, sorry.

You should tell them you can’t have the children rather than ask. And if your partner doesn’t support you in this then tell him you are putting your children first do, and do so. If that means he has to move out then so be it. You can continue your relationship without living together. But seriously put your DC first or they will grow up thinking this is the way relationships/families work.

theremustonlybeone · 15/08/2022 16:39

I have said YABU for allowing your own DC safe place to be invaded by DC that arent even your DP, they not only destroy it but you look after them on their own and fund everyone. That bloke saw you coming., chuck that man out and prioritise your own DC- this is shocking to read

Inertia · 15/08/2022 16:39

You have been taken for an absolute doormat.

Your children need to see you parenting them properly by kicking this ‘partner’ out.

He doesn’t love you- you’ve been a rent-free house, childminder and bank rolled into one compliant package.

Be warned that he is unlikely to go easily. Can you have his stuff packed up ready to go? Will you have another adult around for support?

iRun2eatCake · 15/08/2022 16:39

Ergh · 15/08/2022 16:34

Can’t reply to everyone individually but I fully admit I’ve been a mug, doormat etc etc.

My kids are fine, like I said in a previous update they enjoyed the extra company at first and I felt bad for her kids which is why I bothered to try and help the parents with parenting skills/advice that they should of implemented years ago.

First sign of violence, kid was out my house and hasn’t returned. It’s the way it’s being dealt with that finally made me reach out on here as I was made to feel like I was splitting up kids and being an awful person for putting mine first. It’s all about her kids being including and feeling happy with no consideration to mine.

Yes I’ve been a mug and ultimately let my kids down which I am deeply ashamed of. I feel sick reading some of the comments but they are right. I took care of them for 10 years alone and we had the best life now we have this chaos. Shouldn’t of allowed it from the start but it’s ending tonight before anything further happens. They’re all being cut off.

I really hope you go through with it and he doesn't talk you round.

If he does stay, l pity your own DC who you have allowed to be abused in their own home

neverbeenskiing · 15/08/2022 16:42

Shouldn’t of allowed it from the start but it’s ending tonight before anything further happens. They’re all being cut off.

Good for you, OP. Be prepared for him to tug at your heart-strings and use every trick in the book to try to guilt you into letting him stay. He will promise you he's going to change (he won't) and tell you he has nowhere else to go. Stand firm, remind yourself that your DC's home is supposed to be their sanctuary and this man has brought nothing but chaos. A man who loves and deserves you wouldn't stand by and do nothing while yours and your DC's lives were turned upside down.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 15/08/2022 16:42

it all comes from my pocket

Both your partner and his ex are taking the piss out of you. It's up to you how long you allow this to continue.

Sorry, but you really have been stupid to even get into this situation.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn.

Why are you even tolerating this, let alone encouraging this? Your children will never forgive you now that this has been done on your watch.

FOJN · 15/08/2022 16:42

Yes I’ve been a mug and ultimately let my kids down which I am deeply ashamed of. I feel sick reading some of the comments but they are right.

Don't do this to yourself. Women are so conditioned to be kind and accomodating it's sadly all too common for us to agree to things in the spirit of generosity, not believing for a second that the person who claims to care for us will exploit us and then find we have been used.

You've made a decision, act on it and move forward. On the bright side you have now had your piss taking cock lodger vaccine, you'll be immune for life.

theremustonlybeone · 15/08/2022 16:42

seen your update and i truly hope you go through with it

Hippyatheart58 · 15/08/2022 16:42

Ergh · 15/08/2022 16:34

Can’t reply to everyone individually but I fully admit I’ve been a mug, doormat etc etc.

My kids are fine, like I said in a previous update they enjoyed the extra company at first and I felt bad for her kids which is why I bothered to try and help the parents with parenting skills/advice that they should of implemented years ago.

First sign of violence, kid was out my house and hasn’t returned. It’s the way it’s being dealt with that finally made me reach out on here as I was made to feel like I was splitting up kids and being an awful person for putting mine first. It’s all about her kids being including and feeling happy with no consideration to mine.

Yes I’ve been a mug and ultimately let my kids down which I am deeply ashamed of. I feel sick reading some of the comments but they are right. I took care of them for 10 years alone and we had the best life now we have this chaos. Shouldn’t of allowed it from the start but it’s ending tonight before anything further happens. They’re all being cut off.

Be kind to yourself OP. Unfortunately we can be to kind and considerate of others that we forget our own needs and sometimes our children's. You sound like a wonderful mother who has found themselves in hell. I can see how this happened. Please when your ready look into yourself and see if you have issues with people pleasing, saying no, asserting yourself. It may be worth getting some help.

Really happy for you and your children that this will be coming to an end. You all deserve peace and happiness. Their mayhem is not your problem.

Folklore9074 · 15/08/2022 16:43

This isn’t working, you’ve not been listened to or respected and if they only way to put a stop to this is to kick the partner out do it. Put your own kids first. That’s your number one job. Xx

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 15/08/2022 16:43

Shouldn’t of allowed it from the start but it’s ending tonight before anything further happens. They’re all being cut off.

Thank God for that. I hope that includes your partner too.

excitingusername · 15/08/2022 16:43

You sound like a very well-meaning person but - how on earth could you not judge this from the get go? Did you not meet the kids? I can clock this sort of thing a mile off!

It sounds like the children are feral and from a fragmented and uncaring family environment - it's not just a case of giving them lovely things and it being ok - in fact if anything it makes it worse. Children that have been constantly pandered to are monsters through their parents making. They cannot be allowed in your home anymore, it's that simple. They must learn that if they abuse their environments there will be consequences. In a way it's not their fault - they are victims of their environment but it's not your responsibility to fix this incredibly broken family. You must draw clear boundaries because they have had none.

Noone is going to be strong here but you - NOONE else! You must find the strength to put your foot down.

Brideandprejudice · 15/08/2022 16:43

Well done OP and I hope all goes well tonight.

Dragonsmother · 15/08/2022 16:44

Sorry OP. I don’t want to sound harsh when you are at a low point.
your DP and these kids come as a package. You can’t separate them. Do you really want to be tied to this for the rest of your life?
Maybe you need to put your kids first and tell DP he needs to move out?
If you carry on like this your kids will suffer and before you know it your relationship with them will also suffer.

lamaze1 · 15/08/2022 16:46

You sound like you got sucked in OP and things deteriorated. The problem here isn't the kids, but the parents. As you're the one providing care and footing the bill neither of their parents have any incentive to improve. Your partner is a user. Quite literally taking money away from your kids by forcing you to spend it on him and his kids. I'd be wary of any promises of change. You shouldn't have had to get to this point for him to offer to change.

excitingusername · 15/08/2022 16:47

Also - I hope you are ok.

Ergh · 15/08/2022 16:49

You think after this I want more kids? 😂
yes I’ve made a mistake but it’s getting fixed. Will always regret this, my children say they’re fine but I’m not fine with them being hurt and seeing this sort of behaviour. It would effect them.

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TheCatterall · 15/08/2022 16:50

Massive squishes and good luck with tonight.

this guy isn’t stepping up and being a good supportive partner to you or a decent parent to his kids and step kids.

he’s just dumping the whole problem on someone else which is probably what he also did with her. He’s checked out and just leaving you right deal with it all. Sod that.

you and yours come first and like you’ve said - you’ve done this before and you will be a happy and healthy unit once again when he leaves.

Notfancyfree · 15/08/2022 16:51

I'm not sure what love looks like in your world but respect is key. Your partner should be ashamed. He should be grovelling. And that he leaves you to pay and you do the work!

im glad he's leaving. Let him work out his own problems. They're not yours and if you kindly offer to shoulder some of them at the very least he should feel gratitude and love.
Men come and go but your relationship with your chikdren is forever and needs to take priority. A peaceful home is worth so much.

FourTeaFallOut · 15/08/2022 16:52

Remember not to fall when he swamps you with his sob story tonight. You get one life, don't spend it in service of those who take the piss. And tomorrow, your life and home will be your own again and your kids can breathe a sigh of relief.

Ihatemyroad · 15/08/2022 16:52

You are absolutely mad to let this continue.

You tell him this stops now. Stop allowing yourself to be used by him, his ex, and all the children.

I also think allowing this behaviour to happen to your own children is abusive and for the sake of your own children it stops today.

His biological and non biological children have a mum and it isn’t you!

And if his ex stops access to his biological child then that is for HIM to sort out not you!

This man does not have your back! I would start to think about that along with the impact on your future.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 15/08/2022 16:53

What FOJN said is all true:

Don't do this to yourself. Women are so conditioned to be kind and accommodating it's sadly all too common for us to agree to things in the spirit of generosity, not believing for a second that the person who claims to care for us will exploit us and then find we have been used.

You've made a decision, act on it and move forward. On the bright side you have now had your piss taking cock lodger vaccine, you'll be immune for life.

Don't feel bad. You tried it, they all took the piss. Reclaim your life and your kids will see this as a learning episode too. You'd only be letting them down if you let it continue. Me and my child are happier than ever now. We all need our safe calm places. Get your home back!

Notfancyfree · 15/08/2022 16:54

Also we all make mistakes so don't be too hard on yourself. You were trying to be a good person and now you've come to the end of your tether. As you should. Your children will remember you doing what was best for them.