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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

413 replies

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

OP posts:
JockTamsonsBairns · 15/08/2022 16:14

What a hideous mess. I do hope you follow through on your intention to get shot of them all tonight.
From my calculations, his ex had a 3yo, a 2yo, and a 1yo when your DP met her - and even then, they must have had another together very quickly.
If you don't end it with him, we all know exactly what will happen next.

Theimpossiblegirl · 15/08/2022 16:14

Well done for making the right choice for yourself and your kids.
It's easy enough to tell someone they are being taken advantage of, but not always so easy to see the light when you're in the middle of the situation.

If you decide to keep a relationship with your partner, stick to child free dates.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/08/2022 16:17

I booked a holiday for all of us the first week ... I had a few days out planned ... but I couldn’t afford everyday ... I kitted out my house and garden for them

There's a lot of "I" contributed such-and-such there, OP - I'd ask how much he contribute towards all this, but suspect you'll say he can't afford it "because his ex cleaned him out"

Anyway it hardly matters when you're being taken for a complete mug in every way. They say there's no man keener than a man who needs a place to stay, but if that was me he'd be staying somewhere else ... permanently

Youdoyoutoday · 15/08/2022 16:18

Fucking hell!! Move this zoo out of your house!!

These kids are crazy, your partner is taking the piss by having plans whilst the kids are with you, the mother doesn't get to have 4 kids then choose to have completely child free weekend!!

ihatethefuckingmuffin · 15/08/2022 16:21

Wow.
Ok children can be royal pains in the arse but no excuse for you to put up with any of them simply cos your shagging their dad.

He also sounds like a useless waste of space who would rather be elsewhere than with his child. Funny how these feckless users have exes who have gotten them into debt so they can sponge of their new partners. He ought to be embarrassed as fuck that he’s now stealing money and time from your children.

Violence even from a child shouldn’t be minimised. Your own children should feel safe in their own home.

CounterTop · 15/08/2022 16:21

She doesn’t want to split up the kids

Before he moved in with you, what happened? Did he have all four children when his son was visiting him?

Ravenclawdropout · 15/08/2022 16:21

Well done OP. I would take this as a learning experience, I would personally never move a man in with my kids unless we were married. At the very least take your time (i.e. years) to get to know someone before moving them in. I see no advantage for you if you are financially stable, a good parent and your children are well behaved. Keep your home running smoothly and just socialize without moving a man in.

You are selling yourself short here, the fact that you are successfully working and raising your children says to me a man needs to be offering a lot before you make your relationship more permanent. You had a goldplated Cocklodger taking up space in your home, don't let it happen again.

greatblueheron · 15/08/2022 16:22

I stopped reading halfway through.

Get rid of him. All of them.

Immediately.

Refuse to watch his child and his ex step siblings ever again while he's making plans to move out.

KatieB55 · 15/08/2022 16:22

Absolutely not sustainable. He needs to move out asap.

FOJN · 15/08/2022 16:22

It was just bad behaviour that I was trying to deal with and the parents kept trying to down play it because honestly I’ve been very lucky with my children they’re very behaved so didn’t know if it was normal like they were manipulating me into thinking.

Are you lucky or have you actively parented your children? I suspect its the latter. I would be very concerned that if your children continue to spent time with your partners ex partners children they may start to think rude behaviour is normal.

He has no right to dictate who you welcome into your home, less so because they are not even his children and he thinks it's fine for you to pay for everything and have your home destroyed.

I'd chuck his stuff into bin bags and take his keys off him the minute he walks through the door. There is no resolving the situation through discussion because no reasonable adult would think the demands being placed on you are acceptable.

Good luck

InTheFridge · 15/08/2022 16:22

Christ, get this man and children out of your lives. He IS using you for childcare and money.

Hope it goes well tonight. Have his bags packed and stay strong.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 15/08/2022 16:24

I was in this exact situation during lockdown. I was being kind as lockdown would have meant my partner not seeing his kids as he lived a long way away. It was a living nightmare. The ex took the pi$$ just like you have described, even refusing to have her kids home for weeks on end. My partner scared she'd stop contact if he didn't bend and bow to her demands. He'd go out to work and off to buy stuff, gone hours, the 4 kids wreaking total havoc, zero respect, rude about food I made, mouths like sewers, severe meltdowns if you tried to talk to them about their behaviour. They all had to go in the end. My house is now a peaceful haven once again for me and my child. I will never walk blind into that situation ever again. Save yourself!!

Whippetquick · 15/08/2022 16:25

Pack up his shit leave it on the doorstep get your locks changed

AlexandriasWindmill · 15/08/2022 16:26

YANBU. Their behaviour is completely unacceptable - I mean your DH and his ex. I don't know how you even claw anything remotely reasonable back from this. I think your DH needs to move out.
He can rebuild his credit, save money and look after his DCs somewhere else.
Prioritise your own DCs and your peace of mind.

poetryandwine · 15/08/2022 16:29

OP,

The child who hit you in the face was at least eight years old. That behaviour is only excusable from a toddler. From an older child it is quite serious. Did your own DC witness it? If so I imagine it was quite upsetting.

What did your partner say when you told him?

You may love him but his actions don't suggest that he returns the compliment.
You sound lovely and you deserve better.

user1471538283 · 15/08/2022 16:32

Dear god! So by his reckoning I could move it with 3 unrelated children staying each weekend for nothing!

He and his ex is making a fool of you. His and her children are not your concern.

Kick him out tonight. Have nothing more to do with any of it.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/08/2022 16:32

Are you lucky or have you actively parented your children? I suspect its the latter

I was about to type the same, FOJN. Very many parents who insist they're "lucky" fail to give themselves credit for the part they've played in the DCs turning out so well, and I often think that's a shame

It's a shame too that these particular children's parents may not have been so wise in how they've gone about it, but then this cocklodger's attitude to OP doesn't sound a whole lot better

Guess he'll just have to rehearse a better story for the next woman he wants to make a mug of ...

Sorrynotsorry2 · 15/08/2022 16:32

Ffs op. What on earth is the matter with you . Put your children first . Then stick your big toe up his arsenal and kick him out .

JacquelineCarlyle · 15/08/2022 16:32

GrazingSheep · 15/08/2022 15:28

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake
You have.
Rectify it by moving him right back out again.

This! Bloody hell Op, you're being taken for a complete ride. Put a stop to it and for goodness sake, protect your own children as a minimum.

Goldfishmountainclimber · 15/08/2022 16:34

Put yourself and your own children first. Your partner needs to move out.

Ergh · 15/08/2022 16:34

Can’t reply to everyone individually but I fully admit I’ve been a mug, doormat etc etc.

My kids are fine, like I said in a previous update they enjoyed the extra company at first and I felt bad for her kids which is why I bothered to try and help the parents with parenting skills/advice that they should of implemented years ago.

First sign of violence, kid was out my house and hasn’t returned. It’s the way it’s being dealt with that finally made me reach out on here as I was made to feel like I was splitting up kids and being an awful person for putting mine first. It’s all about her kids being including and feeling happy with no consideration to mine.

Yes I’ve been a mug and ultimately let my kids down which I am deeply ashamed of. I feel sick reading some of the comments but they are right. I took care of them for 10 years alone and we had the best life now we have this chaos. Shouldn’t of allowed it from the start but it’s ending tonight before anything further happens. They’re all being cut off.

OP posts:
SunnyD44 · 15/08/2022 16:35

Your partner sounds like an absolute twat and a complete cocklodger.

How long were you together before he moved into yours?

Your kids are suffering because you’ve let this waste of a space into your home.

Tell him he needs to leave as you are not able to pay for him and his kids anymore.
You don’t need to break up with him even just not live together.

Stop blaming the SDCs or ex wife and start blaming the only person who is responsible here.

LuftBalloons · 15/08/2022 16:36

He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

You're not evil and you're definitely NBU.

In the age-old MN saying: "You have a DP problem."

He needs to step up, or ship out. Can you see the pattern here? Maybe his most recent ex-partner isn't the witch he's made her out to be ....

itwasntmetho · 15/08/2022 16:36

A decent man wouldn’t have let this go on this long. When you tell him to go and he agrees to leave her kids with her now, remember it will be for free lodgings, if it were for you he’d have done that ages ago.
good luck.

SunnyD44 · 15/08/2022 16:37

They’re all being cut off.

Is that including your partner?

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