to think what is the point of car seats

[Wallace]

if you are not even going to bother tightening the straps properly?

I have been car-less recently and friends have very kindly been giving me lifts. And I've noticed that not a single one of them tigtens the straps on a five-point harness, meaning the shoulder straps are so loose that they would be useless in an accident.

And incidentally, while it might work to tell a 2 year old that no one was moving til everyone was strapped in, that doesn't really work on the under-ones...