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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or am I just a victim of the Mandela affect?

118 replies

WhimsicalGubbins · 11/08/2022 17:45

Not really an AIBU (or it could be, depends how passionately you think I’m wrong)

But am I alone in thinking the word Rhythm used to be spelt ‘Rhythmn’??

I could honestly swear up was down that it used to have the n on the end

OP posts:
Whatup · 11/08/2022 19:01

My spelling has completely gone to pot with spell checker.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 11/08/2022 19:02

2bazookas · 11/08/2022 18:56

You're wrong.

Also, the word you meant to use is effect, not affect.

Oh FGS don't be so bloody petty.

mynameisnotkate · 11/08/2022 19:05

I agree with @ParanoidGynodroid - this is making a mistake. Sure, it’s not an uncommon mistake - most mistakes people make are also made by other people, for all sorts of reasons (such as ‘mn’ being a common ending for words). The Mandela effect is about not accepting that you have made a mistake, but rather believing that the universe has somehow reordered itself so that what used to be true no longer is. No! You’ve just spelt it wrong! You have never lived in a world where rhythmn was the correct spelling.

And I agree with @Softplayhooray that the name is really offensive.

And for the love of god can we not have another 40-page thread on whether Walkers ever changed colour or not! How is this still a thing?!

I don’t think I’m usually a grump, but this drives me up the wall …

Luckypoppy · 11/08/2022 19:05

EinsteinaGogo · 11/08/2022 18:44

I used to think dilemma was spelt 'dilemna' OP.

I'm quite intelligent normally, honest!!

Me too!

And vocabulary in my head is voLcabulary!

xprincessxjanetx · 11/08/2022 19:05

Nope definitely never had an 'n' on the end.

However, I have distinct memories of being told equipment was spelt 'equiptment' as a child, and about 10 years ago I was amazed when I realised it didn;t have a 't' in the middle! I'm sure I have some false memory about the spelling I assumed it was but at the time it baffled me as I was so certain of being told numerous times by different teachers that it was spelt 'equiptment'.

Glumgal · 11/08/2022 19:06

I've always remembered how to spell it by 'rhythm has your two hips moving' and have never seen it spelt with an 'n' on the end. You're probably just confusing it with the spelling of 'hymn'.

xprincessxjanetx · 11/08/2022 19:07

EinsteinaGogo · 11/08/2022 18:44

I used to think dilemma was spelt 'dilemna' OP.

I'm quite intelligent normally, honest!!

Oh yes!! I had forgotten completely but I also used to think this!

Isn't it strange how people can have the same false memories

SabiRiver · 11/08/2022 19:08

EinsteinaGogo · 11/08/2022 18:44

I used to think dilemma was spelt 'dilemna' OP.

I'm quite intelligent normally, honest!!

Me too! I used to win spelling competitions at school so I don't get how I had this so wrong!

IcedOatLatte · 11/08/2022 19:14

ouch321 · 11/08/2022 18:27

I think I was taught with an n at the end as well. Not 100% sure though.

Reminds me of 'a lot' and 'alot'.

I find it very hard t beleive that any teacher who decided to teach how to spell any word would then spell it wrongly

What is the connection between rhythmn and alot other than that neither are correct?

saveforthat · 11/08/2022 19:16

I always think remuneration should be renumeration because it sounds like number.

Inertia · 11/08/2022 19:16

As I child I was convinced bum was spelled bumb ( silent b as in lamb).

ShaneTwane · 11/08/2022 19:19

xprincessxjanetx · 11/08/2022 19:05

Nope definitely never had an 'n' on the end.

However, I have distinct memories of being told equipment was spelt 'equiptment' as a child, and about 10 years ago I was amazed when I realised it didn;t have a 't' in the middle! I'm sure I have some false memory about the spelling I assumed it was but at the time it baffled me as I was so certain of being told numerous times by different teachers that it was spelt 'equiptment'.

Omg i came here to say just that i remember being taught it was equipTment hahaha!

EinsteinaGogo · 11/08/2022 19:22

@SabiRiver

I would have smugly bet anything on it being right!

ParanoidGynodroid · 11/08/2022 19:34

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Wow, lovely ageism there! You should actually be fucking ashamed.

I mentioned "millennial arrogance" meaning the arrogance was millennial: internet communication now means mutually affirming discussion on your sub-reddit of choice is often seen as just as valid and worthy of respect as proper research or study. It affects all ages, sadly.

The term Mandela Effect is offensive, as was described above, and coined by a paranormal investigator after meeting other people, who, like her, believed the Nelson Mandela had died decades before he did, and so ascribed some sort of "woo" to this.

Imagine being so titanically ignorant and ill-informed as to have thought this? Mandela's 1990 release was worldwide news, and his subsequent election as leader of SA was monumental for various reasons and made him the most internationally famous leader at the time. He won the Nobel peace prize, and met the queen, Bill Clinton, FFS. Why would you want to associate with this Olympic level stupidity?

I don't know how to break this to you but sometimes words invented post-1973 can be ... useful? For describing distinct social and cultural phenomena?

Yeah, I was born after that actually... and mistakes and/or false memories are NOT 'social and cultural phenomena'. They've been around as long as people have, and have been much studied by psychologists, psychiatrists, scientists, criminologists.

Nikkynakkynoo · 11/08/2022 19:42

Yeah so the dilemna dilemma has its own website: www.dilemna.info/ 😂

JaninaDuszejko · 11/08/2022 19:44

I have a related tendancy to mispell rhyme with an 'n'. Soon as I type it I know it's wrong though.

IAmOldNow · 11/08/2022 19:51

YABVU, obviously, both on the spelling front and regarding the supposed Mandela Effect.

But if you think a reasoned argument for "why it's definitely not the case" helps: etymology!

"Rhythm" is derives from the classical Greek "rhuthmos". No N in sight.

Pumperthepumper · 11/08/2022 19:54

@ParanoidGynodroid Jesus, what a massive overreaction to a clearly lighthearted thread. Take a walk.

applegrumbles · 11/08/2022 19:56

Jengnr · 11/08/2022 18:15

Rhythm Has Your Two Hips Moving is how I was taught it in the 80s.

Came here to say this!

ColonelCarter · 11/08/2022 19:57

You are not alone. I can distinctly remember being taught to spell it in year 4.

ReneBumsWombats · 11/08/2022 20:01

Imagine being so titanically ignorant and ill-informed as to have thought this? Mandela's 1990 release was worldwide news, and his subsequent election as leader of SA was monumental for various reasons and made him the most internationally famous leader at the time. He won the Nobel peace prize, and met the queen, Bill Clinton, FFS.

But that's precisely why it's so weird that so many people thought he was dead while he was still very much alive.

They've been around as long as people have, and have been much studied by psychologists, psychiatrists, scientists, criminologists.

Which is why it's useful to have a term for when it happens.

ParanoidGynodroid · 11/08/2022 20:02

Yes, @Pumperthepumper I'll take a walk.

I wasn't reacting to the thread - my initial post was brief, if a bit humourless - but to that other poster's venom and ageism.

Sorry to have sourpussed all over your thread, OP, I'm actually usually quite nice.
but do find the "Mandela effect" offensive

ParanoidGynodroid · 11/08/2022 20:06

Last little fart before I leave:

But that's precisely why it's so weird that so many people thought he was dead while he was still very much alive

But it's not weird, it's just ignorance.

Which is why it's useful to have a term for when it happens

From an ill-informed woo promoter? There is already a term for false memory!

ShaneTwane · 11/08/2022 20:08

Jfc the term Mandela effect is not offensive. It literally just came about from a huge amount of people believing the same thing. He was in prison for years and amazingly at the time he was not on the news every single day of his incarceration and not really relevant to ordinary lives of people not in south Africa, therefore yeah it's ignorant people didn't know but not offensive.

Inthesameboatatmo · 11/08/2022 20:10

It's just you op