To feel increasingly alienated by Tory voters?

[BarmyBrunhilde]

I am in despair as to where our country is at. With the cost of living crisis looming (and already beginning), this winter is going to be brutal and likely life ending for so many in the UK, and the current aspiring leadership of the Tory party seem to be more interested in litigating culture wars and appeasing NIMBY pensioners in the Home countries than actually addressing any of the serious problems in the UK.

I've never been a Tory voter, but I've always been able to get along with people who have different views (provided they aren't racist/homophobic etc). But how anyone could see all the misery and deprivation on the horizon, look at the prospective leaders and frontbenchers with their complete lack of sultions, and continue with supporting them is genuinely beyond me. I find myself slowly being consumed by bitterness and rage against people for their views, and it frightens me. Am I alone in this?

*solutions, not sultions!

Couldn't you just have commented on any of the myriad All Tories Are Evil threads? 🙄

Spare a thought for those of us who are ex-pats in the US. Even in my heavily Democrat town, there are Trump diehards. Many are successful professionals. Honestly, at this point, I consider Trump loyalists far right.

So yes, I get why you’re infuriated.

I don't think I have ever had someone come up to me and tell me what political party they vote for and I have never asked anyone, none of my business.

These threads are getting really tiresome. The Tories have only been in for so long because they keep getting voted in by the majority of people. We live in a democracy which means the majority of people want them in. If they don't, they'll be voted out at the next election and then you will find that the alternative is just as bad, if not worse.

The opposition don't seem to have any real answers to the problems we're all facing either

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/01/perfect-storm-austerity-behind-130000-deaths-uk-ippr-report

Tory policies kill people.
Tory voters know this.
We get what we vote for.
They're coming after Human Rights next. Ripping up the Human Rights Act and exiting the ECHR (just like Russia) so as to enable mass deportations is hugely popular with Tory voters. Its chilling.

Well I presume a lot of people who voted Tory at the last election are feeling let down and uninspired by the choices of leaders. Vast majority have no more say than you or I because you have to be a member of the party to vote.

Yanbu us non tory voters knew that this is what they're like but no one wanted to hear it. It's annoying getting the consequences of the rest of the country being morons.

Yes that's true, and if people have changed their minds I can completely understand that, even if I didn't vote that way myself. But I'm talking about those who will continue to vote for them despite everything, even knowing what's coming.

Just crack on feeling bitter and angry if it makes you feel good. It will solve nothing and no one will care what you think.

As opposed to what?

Ok well I'm not talking about random strangers on the street though, I'm talking about family members, friends, social acquaintances. It's certainly not particularly unusual to talk about politics with friends and family, especially in the times we're living through?

They knew what they were voting for and many of them will do it again.

Not much anyone can do about it really.

Getting rid of FPTP would help.

I have never, ever voted Tory (grew up in an area badly affected by Thatcher and very strongly Labour) but I'm finding myself with nowhere else to turn right now. So I'm feeling the opposite, tbh. It's so depressing - the options are all terrible.

I genuinely don't know what I'd do if I have to vote tomorrow - I'm just hoping that there will be someone to vote for by the time the next general election comes around

If Tory voters are the majority, then they are probably not feeling the pinch so much. There are still a lot of good things if you have a stable life. For example, jobs are much easier to get at the moment, interest rates going up is good if you have savings/investments. It's different priorities for different people and the majority must be doing ok. If/when that changes, less people will vote for them.

Actually, the majority don't vote Tory, not by a long way.
Votes per party MP 2019
865, 697 = 1 Green
336, 038 = 1 LibDem
50, 836 = 1 Labour
38, 264 = 1 Tory
25, 882 = 1 SNP

Our electoral system is a joke and consistently favours the Tories.

Exactly this.

The rhetoric that all conservative voters are evil kitten-murdering bastards who take joy in seeing children starve, and that all labour voters are paragons of virtue who are super caring and compassionate is just such a pile of shite.

You are not alone.

It is the modern way that your political views (of whichever persuasion) are so righteous that you don't just wallow in your conceit and smugness, but actively hate those with opposing views, and even hate those supposedly on your own side with whom you have minor differences.

So many Labour supporters hate Corbyn and his supporters and others hate Starmer and his supporters. Many Tories hate Johnson, and at the moment Truss supporters hate Sunak supporters and vice versa. Modern political debate is reduced to displays of hate and criticism, and the media feed this. I would love to see someone in the media ask Truss to say something positive about Sunak or Starmer. I haven't seen anyone look like a bulldog chewing a wasp for some time.

@Justcallmebebes unfortunately our parliamentary system doesn’t work like that and a majority didn’t actually vote for the Tories at all.

Barmy - That's who I'm talking about, family, friends, acquaintances - I don't know who they vote for, but then I don't have heated discussions about politics, plenty of other things to talk about.

Is it surprising nobody listens to you when this is The best you can come up with?

it’s getting sort of boring reading posts where the labour supporters firmly believe that they are the goodies and anyone who doesn’t agree with them are the baddies - or morons as this person so charmingly put it

13.94 million voted Tory in 2019. Very much not a majority.

@Mamamia7962 so you never talk about fuel prices, the cost of living, the drought, energy bills, the NHS, house prices, rubbish collection, cost of food, climate change? None of that ever comes up in conversation? 😳

As I said, I generally have had friends from a variety of political viewpoints. But I just can't see any justification for supporting the current status quo? Even a hardcore supporter of free-market capitalism can surely see that it's not sustainable with skyrocketing bills, when people will have hardly disposable income? To continue to do nothing (but 'cut taxes' which is what Truss suggests) and continue whinging on about gender neutral toilets instead of a proper response to the cost of living crisis, feels like a level of wilful political sabotage that it's incomprehensible to me that anyone sensible could support it.

Unfortunately the majority of brits WANT to vote for those anyone poor (by which the local tories mean in receipt of any benefit at all, yes they include child benefit, state education and relying on the NHS) dead and gone. They feel their days will be easier once the population is reduced that way. Local tory party people can't hold their drink nor nastiness in.

Majority of brits hate themselves. THAT much they see Tories as human perfection.