OK, so I'm not a Tory. I hate Boris, and despise the rest of them. I don't hold or much hope of any of them actually doing anything to address the problems that we're currently facing, because I don't think any of them actually give a toss about ordinary people. Of the two candidates that are left in the Tory leadership contest, I would pick Rishi, because I think he has a more realistic understanding of the economic challenges, but obviously, I'm not a party member so I have no say in the matter.
Nevertheless, I have been relatively sanguine and the prospect of Liz Truss as leader, a) because I figured that things couldn't get much worse than the shit show that we have had under Boris, and b) because I am pretty sure that she will be utterly unelectable when it comes to the next general election, so worst case scenario would be that we have another couple of years of crappy Tory government, exacerbated by the cost of living crisis, and then we can be pretty confident of getting shot of them. So, pretty shit all in all, but survivable.
But listening to everything that she is saying she wants to do, to the economic forecasts, and to the analysis from both within and beyond the Tory party, I'm starting to get really very worried. All this talk of huge tax cuts and massive reductions in public spending...I fear that she is going to make the looming economic crisis infinitely worse at a time when we can least afford to risk it. Nearly all economists seem to agree that her plans are going to make things worse, not better.
We are already at breaking point. Public services are on their knees. Businesses are struggling to stay afloat. People both in work and out of work are struggling. The most vulnerable are already having to choose between bare essentials such as eating and heating. Inflation continues to soar, energy prices are going off the scale, interest rates are going up... and she is about to make it worse! We just don't have the resilience in the system to cope with this.
I am actually very worried about what is going to happen. This could be very bad indeed, and a lot of people are going to suffer. If we end up with austerity on steroids in the midst of an unprecedented economic crisis, there will be massive civil unrest, surely?
AIBU?
To be starting to really worry about Liz Truss
Anothernamechangeplease · 04/08/2022 15:00
Am I being unreasonable?
945 votes. Final results.
POLLBlossomtoes · 04/08/2022 19:01
It certainly was. Those of us who remember those years also remember the public opinion at the time was firmly behind the Iraq war and it had the backing of the opposition - 140 odd Tories voted for it.
HesterShaw1 · 04/08/2022 18:55
Yes Zebedee lots of us remember the Blair years. They really weren't that long ago, and life was infinitely better for most people apart from Tory MPs and donors
Zebedee999 · 04/08/2022 18:19
You should think yourself lucky we don't have a Labour government. The last thing we need now is more dodgy dossiers and illegal wars killing millions. Some of us remember all that and our scruples will never allow us to support Labour again.
Anothernamechangeplease · 04/08/2022 15:00
OK, so I'm not a Tory. I hate Boris, and despise the rest of them. I don't hold or much hope of any of them actually doing anything to address the problems that we're currently facing, because I don't think any of them actually give a toss about ordinary people. Of the two candidates that are left in the Tory leadership contest, I would pick Rishi, because I think he has a more realistic understanding of the economic challenges, but obviously, I'm not a party member so I have no say in the matter.
Nevertheless, I have been relatively sanguine and the prospect of Liz Truss as leader, a) because I figured that things couldn't get much worse than the shit show that we have had under Boris, and b) because I am pretty sure that she will be utterly unelectable when it comes to the next general election, so worst case scenario would be that we have another couple of years of crappy Tory government, exacerbated by the cost of living crisis, and then we can be pretty confident of getting shot of them. So, pretty shit all in all, but survivable.
But listening to everything that she is saying she wants to do, to the economic forecasts, and to the analysis from both within and beyond the Tory party, I'm starting to get really very worried. All this talk of huge tax cuts and massive reductions in public spending...I fear that she is going to make the looming economic crisis infinitely worse at a time when we can least afford to risk it. Nearly all economists seem to agree that her plans are going to make things worse, not better.
We are already at breaking point. Public services are on their knees. Businesses are struggling to stay afloat. People both in work and out of work are struggling. The most vulnerable are already having to choose between bare essentials such as eating and heating. Inflation continues to soar, energy prices are going off the scale, interest rates are going up... and she is about to make it worse! We just don't have the resilience in the system to cope with this.
I am actually very worried about what is going to happen. This could be very bad indeed, and a lot of people are going to suffer. If we end up with austerity on steroids in the midst of an unprecedented economic crisis, there will be massive civil unrest, surely?
GingerbreadPerson · 04/08/2022 19:19
Truss would be a disaster, she listens to no-one, is only interested in her own voice and being heard, talks over people. Dreadful woman, power mad and not so bright really.
wandawhy · 04/08/2022 18:06
The Continuity Candidate.
Someone suggested Rishi will/should stand down and let her get on with it then she will sink the way Teresa did. Not that La Truss will become a useful constituency MP.
Lioness100 · 04/08/2022 19:40
It’s so very very simple… the rich get richer… the poor… get poorer.
No middle class soon… those in power and those in poverty.
It’s basically the Hunger Games.
Thanks Boris.
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 04/08/2022 15:50
She’s just a female version of Boris imo. She wants Andrea Leadsom for Chancellor😭Not sure who l hate more, they’re both scary.
l really don’t understand why the Tories kicked out Boris to re elect another right wing nutter. She’s not going to win back those rural seats that switched to Lib/Dem. And she’s probably pissed off the Red Wall too.
Rishi is a twat, but l think he has a level of competence. She has nothing.
Crankley · 04/08/2022 20:00
I love this thread.
You all bitched and whined and moaned about Boris Johnson and now he has gone. I said in a thread some time ago, 'be sorry what you wish for'. Those who are calling Liz Truss thick, she went to Oxford, I'm wondering how many of you did the same.
I'm a member of the Conservative Party and will be voting for her. I look forward to hearing you squeal
Crankley · 04/08/2022 20:00
I love this thread.
You all bitched and whined and moaned about Boris Johnson and now he has gone. I said in a thread some time ago, 'be sorry what you wish for'. Those who are calling Liz Truss thick, she went to Oxford, I'm wondering how many of you did the same.
I'm a member of the Conservative Party and will be voting for her. I look forward to hearing you squeal
Crankley · 04/08/2022 20:00
I love this thread.
You all bitched and whined and moaned about Boris Johnson and now he has gone. I said in a thread some time ago, 'be sorry what you wish for'. Those who are calling Liz Truss thick, she went to Oxford, I'm wondering how many of you did the same.
I'm a member of the Conservative Party and will be voting for her. I look forward to hearing you squeal
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Blossomtoes · 04/08/2022 19:27
Here you go @youboozeyoulose. I was 50 in 2003.
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/06/03/remembering-iraq
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