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Have you ever felt evil or that something was deeply wrong?

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crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 09:25

Inspired by an experience I had recently that has really rattled me. It's very outing as I've talked to everyone in my real life about it, it bothered me so much so I'll keep it brief.
I met some people I hadn't met before to buy an item from FB marketplace. Its a fairly rare item, and an expensive one so I went off to see if it was the right thing. The house was beautiful, it was a very large manor house that has been turned into huge expensive period flats,the grounds were amazing and the people were nice but a few odd things happened that were boundary testing and also some oddly timed things happened. While I was there I felt OK, it was a beautiful place, very quiet and entrancing but as I drove away I had this overwhelming sense of relief that I was leaving, and I was scanning my brain for any information I'd told them about myself in case they could find me. I am not a scared person or one prone to flights of fancy , this has never happened to me before. I had a physical reaction to the street they live on when I drove past some days later. My brain said "I'm never going up there again" and I keep having that feeling of having been in a bubble, it bursting and me being glad to be away from it. A weird story I know. Anyone had similar? I just know there was something deeply wrong there. I even asked my lovely neighbour to send a prayer up for me to protect me , and I would consider myself a non believer!

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Mindthegob · 01/08/2022 10:45

I had a feeling something was very very wrong watching a programme- kind of like the feeling people got watching Jimmy Saville. I mentioned it and was told not to be so daft. Still can’t watch it though!

Narwhalelife · 01/08/2022 10:46

Watchkeys · 01/08/2022 10:26

I wonder how many on the thread who've said 'Your imagination is overactive' (or something similar) would actually confidently claim that humans don't sense things beyond our recognised physiological senses.

100% it’s hard to not sound crazy but when you feel it it’s like the 6th sense. We are descended from the witches they couldn’t catch to burn though 😜

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 10:48

Frazzledmummy123 · 01/08/2022 10:35

After reading your update it isn't exactly for no reason you feel that way about that place, that was very strange and inappropriate behaviour from these people in that house. Anyone would be freaked out by that and want to never go back there, however I think you might be slightly overthinking the evil part and that they might try to find you. You are probably just freaked out by hownthey behaved.

Random thought and I am probably overthinking here, but do you think they were enjoying winding you up? Maybe they advertise and sell items and while they are it it, wind up anyone who goes to the house to collect it?

No I didn't get that sense that they were winding me up from them.
Re the evil thing, my thought as I was driving away was to scan my brain for what I had said what they knew about me, not because I think they are going to come and get me now, more from the 'I don't want them to know anything about me' standpoint as I found them frighteningly odd and disarming.

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Triselly · 01/08/2022 10:49

Narwhalelife · 01/08/2022 10:18

I’m not sure it’s the same thing but our Labrador died in 2017. We moved house shortly after into a really old house in the countryside.

The first night we were there I popped into the garden just to admire the sunset/ view across the fields as the house is surrounded by woods & fields. As I stood at the end of the garden I felt something behind me, like someone had walked up behind me. I jumped round and nothing was there. I walked back towards the house and noticed something was watching me from the woods that form part of the garden.

In my mind I thought fondly of our Labrador maybe popping back to say hi (mad I know, but I kinda believe things like this).

However, the phone rang it was my step dad who lives overseas (rarely calls me!) after saying Hi and how you settling etc he said ‘be careful who you let in your house’ I asked what he meant, he said that he didn’t really know but had a feeling there was a bad energy that could be mistaken for our dogs and just be sure before we said hi (we are not mental I assure you all - even if we sound it 🤣)

I haven’t had the feeling again but it did make me wonder a bit more deeply about the old spirit world 🤯

I am loving all the spooky threads and comments this morning!

Wonderfully eerie stories here and in the other thread, great reminders to trust your instincts.

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 10:49

SleepingAgent · 01/08/2022 10:41

I believe in listening to your gut and had read the Gift of Fear, it's very good.

But from what you've said, sounds more like they are rather weird swingers scoping people out to join them and their friend in some "fun", that's all.

No definitely not that.

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crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 10:51

Mindthegob · 01/08/2022 10:45

I had a feeling something was very very wrong watching a programme- kind of like the feeling people got watching Jimmy Saville. I mentioned it and was told not to be so daft. Still can’t watch it though!

Ooh what programme?

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crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 10:53

Beautiful3 · 01/08/2022 10:42

@crochetmonkey74 if you sensed evil, then you did. Don't listen to people telling you otherwise. Trust your instincts and keep away from that place/people. They could have been Satan worshipers, there are many of them. I once spoke with an ordinary looking guy in his mid thirties, who said he was a member of Satan's church. He said many attended, and they treated it like a real religion e.g. prayers, sermons etc. He showed me pictures/decorations in his porch/hallway, that made me believe him. I was at his door, made polite chit chat then left.

Right, this is the bit I didn't put down as I thought it was too far out and I'd be torn apart on here but this is what I thought when I drove home, this is why my neighbour sent a prayer up.

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beachcitygirl · 01/08/2022 11:01

Hi Op, I put a similiar thread a while back, linked below. Trust your gut.

Presence of evil http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4456006-presence-of-evil

pitchforksandflamethrowers · 01/08/2022 11:02

I can tell you that through my work with dv charity (pro bono I don't do it for a living) that all of our clients knew when something bad was going to happen. None of them could put their finger on it but all were spot on.

Our brains are programmed to alert us to danger, problem is we receive so much information on a daily basis, we don't often and remember it but the brain does and gives us that feeling.

If ever you have that feeling listen to it. Also if your interested read the gift of fear. It talks about this in depth.

We ignore these feelings at our peril.

MissMarplesNiece · 01/08/2022 11:08

I can't think of any time where I've felt I was in the presence of evil, but when I've been out with one of my dogs he would take a dislike to some people as they approached. Sometimes his hackles would go up as we walked past them, one time he pulled me to the side of the road wanting to cross over away from an approaching man. My dog was very friendly so this behaviour was out of character for him. My DH said he'd experienced the same when he'd been out with him and thought our dog was sensing something evil. I do believe that this was the case. I wish I was more sensitive to these kind of things.

FrancescaContini · 01/08/2022 11:11

RuthBrenner · 01/08/2022 09:45

I think you're letting your imagination run away with you if nothing actually happened.

That’s not the point. She’s saying that her instinct was telling her to keep away, even though nothing distinct actually happened.

FOJN · 01/08/2022 11:16

Years ago I went home, for the first time, with someone I was dating and as soon as I was in their house I was filled with the kind of terror I have never experienced before or since. I was convinced real harm would come to me in that house. I said I had to leave and literally ran out of the house, I was in there for less than a minute. I did not feel safe until I was locked in my car and driving away. There is nothing I can put my finger on but the feeling was very real and I have never regretted leaving when I did.

It made much more sense when I learned about The Gift of Fear.

pitchforksandflamethrowers · 01/08/2022 11:16

Also linked and I'm gonna sound very woo. Was at a event that involved several high fliers and one of men I met there just gave off cruel vibes, it was really odd. I was in no danger, he dressed well, charming but something in his eyes just made me panic. He was high up in police force, nice no one else was getting weird vibes off him. I just wanted to run away from him fast.
Shook it off as to much wine ect.

A year later had a client in for my dv work, noticed the surname was the same as the guy at the party. Read incident report from client. He had broken so many bones in this womens body, literally done some really vile vile cruel stuff to his wife. Did some digging.

Same man.

I remember thinking back to the eyes that just seemed cruel and thought. Fuck.

That incident sheet was one the worst i had ever read and still to this day is.

covilha · 01/08/2022 11:16

I don’t think I know @HappyBinosaur but I too had a very similar experience and also have a very deep faith
Hope all is well with you OP and @HappyBinosaur 💐

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 11:19

I did not feel safe until I was locked in my car and driving away.
When I was driving away I had an immense sense of relief that I was out of there

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CounsellorTroi · 01/08/2022 11:19

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 09:53

The sudden appearance of a friend from the building who also 'wanted to meet me'
Personal compliments that could not be true (I'm a size 18/20) they were saying how slim I was
The one person told me how her and her husband had loud sex and no one minded
All these things were said in a genteel way and were sort of buried in very refined and polite setting (tea on the lawn) amongst other conversation. They had made a tea tray so I could sit while they collected the item. As we were talking, they asked me questions about how I grew up but then made leaps to personal things " was your father absent, it can be hard growing up with an absent father " (I hadn't mentioned my dad, only my mum)
It gave the sense of a cult, trying to hook you.
I know there will be posters who say they would have immediately challenged or left but these things were sort of buried in enough normality that I didn't process it straight away. I was probably there 20 mins in all

They were probably just a bit eccentric.,..

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 11:19

covilha · 01/08/2022 11:16

I don’t think I know @HappyBinosaur but I too had a very similar experience and also have a very deep faith
Hope all is well with you OP and @HappyBinosaur 💐

I'd love to know more if you feel safe to share it

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Lineala · 01/08/2022 11:21

I'm not convinced it's instinct so much as picking up non-verbal signals. Some people are more sensitive and notice non-verbal signals others may not.

PureBlackVoid · 01/08/2022 11:28

Not quite the same, but years ago when I was on holiday I had this sudden sense of impending doom. I had never experienced it before, and my friend was asking what’s wrong but I just couldn’t put it into words. A short while after, a breaking news thing flashed up that the most wanted war criminal (against my birth country, family lived through it) had finally been caught after more than a decade long hunt.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 01/08/2022 11:31

AgnestaVipers · 01/08/2022 09:43

I once had that reaction to a man sitting opposite me on the tube. Years ago, now. There was an unpleasant smell and something about his face or clothes that gave me a visceral repulsion. We do sense more than we can fully understand. Thankfully we never need to see these people or go to these places again.

Tbh if you commute there are loads of people you encounter like that on a daily basis!

ZandathePanda · 01/08/2022 11:32

I was welcoming to Dds friend. He was very effeminate and my default ‘be kind as secondary school could be hell for him’ overrode my feelings that something was wrong. Dog hated him. Dog was right. The boy did something evil and showed no remorse.

In your situation I think they were sussing you out as someone who they want for one of their orgies. They are preying on vulnerable women (the dad stuff) to do this with. So not pleasant people.

whenimnotwithyou · 01/08/2022 11:32

Yes.

First time I met my friend's husband he was so over the top 'nice' and my boundaries felt really pushed. Insisted I wear some of their slippers as the kitchen floor was cold when I really didn't want to. Hassled and hassled me to drink alcohol I didn't want, hassled me to eat food I wasn't hungry for (this was literally a popping in after school so the kids could play kind of visit).

Super friendly and smiley but gave me the worst vibes and I felt weirdly violated when I got home because of all the times he wouldn't accept my 'no'.

Always set my spidey senses off even though he was so charismatic and friendly.

My friend divorced him last year, he raped and abused her for years and still stalks her now while the police do fuck all about him breaching his non molestation order.

I hate the fucker.

OldFan · 01/08/2022 11:34

Yes, before I got treatment for my mental health problems and became aware of my disabilities. They helped me forgive myself.

Trinity65 · 01/08/2022 11:39

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 09:25

Inspired by an experience I had recently that has really rattled me. It's very outing as I've talked to everyone in my real life about it, it bothered me so much so I'll keep it brief.
I met some people I hadn't met before to buy an item from FB marketplace. Its a fairly rare item, and an expensive one so I went off to see if it was the right thing. The house was beautiful, it was a very large manor house that has been turned into huge expensive period flats,the grounds were amazing and the people were nice but a few odd things happened that were boundary testing and also some oddly timed things happened. While I was there I felt OK, it was a beautiful place, very quiet and entrancing but as I drove away I had this overwhelming sense of relief that I was leaving, and I was scanning my brain for any information I'd told them about myself in case they could find me. I am not a scared person or one prone to flights of fancy , this has never happened to me before. I had a physical reaction to the street they live on when I drove past some days later. My brain said "I'm never going up there again" and I keep having that feeling of having been in a bubble, it bursting and me being glad to be away from it. A weird story I know. Anyone had similar? I just know there was something deeply wrong there. I even asked my lovely neighbour to send a prayer up for me to protect me , and I would consider myself a non believer!

I think I have OP

In my case its the Arches by Villier's Street (near Charing Cross Station).
First time I went there I was 17 and just felt a feeling of dread and doom and my head started hurting and felt pretty clammy and sick .
Was fine once out of those Arches .
It felt Evil .

FOJN · 01/08/2022 11:48

ZandathePanda · 01/08/2022 11:32

I was welcoming to Dds friend. He was very effeminate and my default ‘be kind as secondary school could be hell for him’ overrode my feelings that something was wrong. Dog hated him. Dog was right. The boy did something evil and showed no remorse.

In your situation I think they were sussing you out as someone who they want for one of their orgies. They are preying on vulnerable women (the dad stuff) to do this with. So not pleasant people.

Gavin De Becker talks about people who thinks their dogs react to unpleasant people, he says that the dog is responding to the person's reaction because the dog isn't able to tell the difference between good and evil people. I haven't researched what animal behaviourists say on the subject but it's interesting that you knew something was wrong and took the dogs reaction as confirmation of that.

I think it's useful to know because it means that even if we don't consciously acknowledge somone as a wrong un we can use our dogs as a barometer of our instincts about them.

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