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Have you ever felt evil or that something was deeply wrong?

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crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 09:25

Inspired by an experience I had recently that has really rattled me. It's very outing as I've talked to everyone in my real life about it, it bothered me so much so I'll keep it brief.
I met some people I hadn't met before to buy an item from FB marketplace. Its a fairly rare item, and an expensive one so I went off to see if it was the right thing. The house was beautiful, it was a very large manor house that has been turned into huge expensive period flats,the grounds were amazing and the people were nice but a few odd things happened that were boundary testing and also some oddly timed things happened. While I was there I felt OK, it was a beautiful place, very quiet and entrancing but as I drove away I had this overwhelming sense of relief that I was leaving, and I was scanning my brain for any information I'd told them about myself in case they could find me. I am not a scared person or one prone to flights of fancy , this has never happened to me before. I had a physical reaction to the street they live on when I drove past some days later. My brain said "I'm never going up there again" and I keep having that feeling of having been in a bubble, it bursting and me being glad to be away from it. A weird story I know. Anyone had similar? I just know there was something deeply wrong there. I even asked my lovely neighbour to send a prayer up for me to protect me , and I would consider myself a non believer!

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Superduper02 · 19/09/2022 15:10

Omg! Tell us more. Do you usually get premonitions or strong feelings about things?

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 15:39

Livpool · 19/09/2022 13:20

There is no such thing as an 'evil' presence though is there?! People can be evil but not places or the 'air'

In fairness, you don't know this. You have one theory, others have a different one

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crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 15:40

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 11:49

Then what are you trying to insinuate? That they planned to murder you? I hope you aren’t slagging these people off in their local area. At worst they were swingers with shit social skills, but you’re making out they were going to do something awful like sacrifice you to Lucifer with absolutely no evidence except for a ‘feeling’.

Unfair and OTT . Haven't insinuated anything . Am on a thread discussing my experience. It wasn't a swingers vibe at all.

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crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 15:44

Superduper02 · 19/09/2022 15:10

Omg! Tell us more. Do you usually get premonitions or strong feelings about things?

If this is to Me, not at all really. This stood out as its unusual

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Suetwo · 19/09/2022 15:45

Very interesting (and scary) posts. Never had such an experience myself, though I often take an instant dislike to people. Also interesting to read people mentioning eyes. It’s amazing how somebody’s eyes can give away their character. I live next door to a grown man with aspergers. He has other problems too (I don’t mean to imply he is horrible because he has aspergers), and is generally odd and vile. His eyes are dreadful - just black and cold and full of hatred. He has never done anything, so far as I know, but I wouldn’t be alone in a room with him.

TheSoddingCat · 19/09/2022 16:13

Before this year I would have said it was all bollocks. After this year nope, there's something in it. I made it to 40 before experiencing, sensing and feeling true pure evil and I used to walk past Cromwell Street at least once a day for a part of my childhood, teens and early twenties.

There was this guy and straight away on sight he made my blood run cold. Kept an eye on him and discovered there was a small group of us uneasy about him. After a few months he started bragging he'd been to prison for firearms and drugs and straight away we all said it was for something darker. He bragged he'd been sentenced to 16 years, got it reduced to 8 and only served 4 and STILL people thought he was an angel and we were evil for worrying something was off. He bragged we'd never find out anything on him. He'd changed his name so no one knew what his name was when he'd been to prison. We then found out his name but still nothing came up when we searched.

People FaceTimed him with their kids, someone FaceTimed him with their young niece in their swimming pool, people sent him pictures of them with their children, people sent pictures of their babies. We were called evil and all sorts for trying to warn people not to do that. Our parenting was called into question for saying please be careful and protect yourselves. We were very much the bad guys for advising people to exercise caution.

This went on for nearly a year until someone anonymously tipped us off and told us to ring Leeds Crown Court and ask for information. Apparently there's a Right To Forget law that meant everything about his crimes had been wiped. His date of birth, address and full name all matched the person Leeds court gave us information for.

In October 2015 he was charged with:

1 count voyeurism
1 count possession of prohibited images of children
1 count possession of indecent photographs of a child
1 count arranging or facilitating the commission of a child sex offence

ALWAYS trust your instinct. If you sense pure evil get the fuck out of there or if you can't then stay on high alert. Just please be careful.

veganmayo · 19/09/2022 16:45

During Covid I was out for a walk in a local park with a friend. We live on either side of the same park, but it's quite big so each side is a different 'area' of our town with different 'locals', different catchment areas, etc if that makes sense?

So as we're walking through, a man and woman around the same age as my friend and I are walking towards us and the woman says hi. My friend stops for a quick chat with the woman who is just so sweet and friendly.

Whole time, the man stands there with the deadest look in his eyes, didn't say hello it was almost like he wasn't really 'there'. I couldn't figure out if he was silently taking us all in or just vacant. I had the strongest feeling that I wanted to be away from him and never see him ever again. The best way I can describe it is that I felt instinctively that if you were alone with him he would hurt you. That really doesn't do justice to the feeling of evil and dread that he instilled though.

Anyway conversation wound up and my friend eventually gets to telling me that they're a brother and sister who live a few roads from her... and he had once tried to kill a woman who turned down his advances. He followed her home from a local bar with a knife. I didn't ask for further details but he was fortunately unsuccessful.

I really can't explain how, other than pure animal instinct, that I just knew this was what he had in him. I'm fairly new to the area (and this happened about 10 years ago) and so had definitely not seen or heard this in any local news, it was the first I heard of it.

Still gives me the creeps thinking about his face.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 19/09/2022 17:15

thesoddingcat this is unsettling to say the least. In layman’s terms, it sounds as though he has changed his name via deed poll and used the right to be forgotten laws to have data about his crimes wiped from search engines (because obviously his criminal record wouldn’t be wiped). Although useful in many situations, the right to be forgotten laws definitely cross a boundary of what is an acceptable use of at times.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 19/09/2022 17:17

*to clarify ‘laws’, ‘the right to be forgotten’ is a piece of legislation that falls under GDPR.

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 17:36

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 15:40

Unfair and OTT . Haven't insinuated anything . Am on a thread discussing my experience. It wasn't a swingers vibe at all.

Well it’s not because you aren’t actually saying anything at all. You are heavily suggesting these people are evil based on nothing bugs. Feeling and you’ve said that you’ve been telling loads of people about it. It’s slander and I really hope they don’t find out, because on the base of things they invited you over, made you a cult of tea, we’re nice-ish to you although admittedly the conversation was weird and probably inappropriate at points, and you’re making massive accusations that they’re evil!

doing it on here is one thing, doing it in real life when it might get back to them is bang out of order.

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 17:44

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 17:36

Well it’s not because you aren’t actually saying anything at all. You are heavily suggesting these people are evil based on nothing bugs. Feeling and you’ve said that you’ve been telling loads of people about it. It’s slander and I really hope they don’t find out, because on the base of things they invited you over, made you a cult of tea, we’re nice-ish to you although admittedly the conversation was weird and probably inappropriate at points, and you’re making massive accusations that they’re evil!

doing it on here is one thing, doing it in real life when it might get back to them is bang out of order.

You've projected a whole load of stuff on me there. 😃🙄
Maybe this thread isn't for you

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HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 17:48

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 17:44

You've projected a whole load of stuff on me there. 😃🙄
Maybe this thread isn't for you

I haven’t projected anything on to you.

Its exactly what you’ve said. That not much happened, but these people are evil, you’ve escaped evil and you’re telling people about it.

so what exactly did they do that was evil? Or is it just a feeling that you’ve exaggerated into slagging strangers off?

tonightelmowillrise · 19/09/2022 17:54

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 17:48

I haven’t projected anything on to you.

Its exactly what you’ve said. That not much happened, but these people are evil, you’ve escaped evil and you’re telling people about it.

so what exactly did they do that was evil? Or is it just a feeling that you’ve exaggerated into slagging strangers off?

you think OP’s a knob, she thinks you’re a knob, why not just leave the thread instead of trying to argue over something that doesn’t involve you 🙄

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 17:57

tonightelmowillrise · 19/09/2022 17:54

you think OP’s a knob, she thinks you’re a knob, why not just leave the thread instead of trying to argue over something that doesn’t involve you 🙄

Which is exactly what you’re now doing?

I haven’t called her a knob and it’s a public thread I am entitled to join in on. This whole ‘if you disagree you can’t post’ thing is bollocks and not the point of MN. I want to get to the bottom of what these people actually did wrong to deserve to be called evil as it’s all wish washy rubbish.

tonightelmowillrise · 19/09/2022 18:06

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 17:57

Which is exactly what you’re now doing?

I haven’t called her a knob and it’s a public thread I am entitled to join in on. This whole ‘if you disagree you can’t post’ thing is bollocks and not the point of MN. I want to get to the bottom of what these people actually did wrong to deserve to be called evil as it’s all wish washy rubbish.

but like, no one cares that you think it’s rubbish, no one asked for or cares about your opinion so…

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:11

tonightelmowillrise · 19/09/2022 18:06

but like, no one cares that you think it’s rubbish, no one asked for or cares about your opinion so…

I don’t care for yours either to be honest? Yet you’re allowed to freely give it…

even though you apparently don’t care what I have to say, let me explain why I find this sort of thing so unfair. I knew someone (now deceased) who was plagued with this crap all their life.
‘Do you know X? They’re so creepy aren’t they?’
‘Yeah, Jessica went round there once and she said she got this really creepy feeling and said X’s house was totally evil’
’Oh my god, they’re definitely a serial killer or something’

can you imagine what that does to a person? Who is just lonely and eccentric? The Op can spout their crap here all they want, but to admit they’ve been telling friends, neighbours and locals when NOTHING has actually happened, is just so not okay.

So that’s why I’m asking what has happened for her to go around telling people they’re evil.

And I am entitled to ask, if you don’t like my questions then you can take your own advice and leave the thread or not engage with me.

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 18:23

but to admit they’ve been telling friends, neighbours and locals I haven't at all told these people the details. I told my friends (2 close ones) and my sister and asked my neighbour for a prayer. There are no 'locals' I would or could tell. None of the people I told know the place or the people as neither did i before i went to collect. Also my story is markedly different from the horrible experience you've had of someone being tormented. Also, as I said , it's happened to me once in 47 years.

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crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 18:26

it’s all wish washy rubbish
To you , but you weren't there and didn't experience it.

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HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:29

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 18:23

but to admit they’ve been telling friends, neighbours and locals I haven't at all told these people the details. I told my friends (2 close ones) and my sister and asked my neighbour for a prayer. There are no 'locals' I would or could tell. None of the people I told know the place or the people as neither did i before i went to collect. Also my story is markedly different from the horrible experience you've had of someone being tormented. Also, as I said , it's happened to me once in 47 years.

It’s not, because this is how it starts. People tell people, rumours and whispers begin. It’s how people end up being persecuted. If nothing happened to you, then you shouldn’t be calling them evil.

I’m going to give you what you want and duck out do this thread because it’s triggering. But please think about what you’re saying and the impact it has on others. These people did nothing to deserve you telling others they’re evil, that you were lucky to get out etc. If you can’t empathise with this in real life, go and read about the witchcraft trials and maybe you will understand how out of hand such accusations can get. I’ve seen it happen with my own eyes and it’s horrific. And it always starts with someone like you who ‘just told a couple of people’ and next thing you know, there’s a bogeyman at the end of the street who is actually a human being who cannot understand why their lives are being torn apart by immature little gossips.

good night.

tonightelmowillrise · 19/09/2022 18:30

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:11

I don’t care for yours either to be honest? Yet you’re allowed to freely give it…

even though you apparently don’t care what I have to say, let me explain why I find this sort of thing so unfair. I knew someone (now deceased) who was plagued with this crap all their life.
‘Do you know X? They’re so creepy aren’t they?’
‘Yeah, Jessica went round there once and she said she got this really creepy feeling and said X’s house was totally evil’
’Oh my god, they’re definitely a serial killer or something’

can you imagine what that does to a person? Who is just lonely and eccentric? The Op can spout their crap here all they want, but to admit they’ve been telling friends, neighbours and locals when NOTHING has actually happened, is just so not okay.

So that’s why I’m asking what has happened for her to go around telling people they’re evil.

And I am entitled to ask, if you don’t like my questions then you can take your own advice and leave the thread or not engage with me.

you’re literally just imagining things the OP has said now which is very weird but sure crack on shouting into the wind about how this thread is terribly wrong instead of just clicking off it like everyone else does when they come across one they don’t get 🤦🏾‍♀️ enjoy!

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:30

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 18:26

it’s all wish washy rubbish
To you , but you weren't there and didn't experience it.

It’s a ‘feeling’. It’s wish washy. NOTHING HAPPENED.

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 18:31

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:29

It’s not, because this is how it starts. People tell people, rumours and whispers begin. It’s how people end up being persecuted. If nothing happened to you, then you shouldn’t be calling them evil.

I’m going to give you what you want and duck out do this thread because it’s triggering. But please think about what you’re saying and the impact it has on others. These people did nothing to deserve you telling others they’re evil, that you were lucky to get out etc. If you can’t empathise with this in real life, go and read about the witchcraft trials and maybe you will understand how out of hand such accusations can get. I’ve seen it happen with my own eyes and it’s horrific. And it always starts with someone like you who ‘just told a couple of people’ and next thing you know, there’s a bogeyman at the end of the street who is actually a human being who cannot understand why their lives are being torn apart by immature little gossips.

good night.

I wish you well and that you get to resolve your feelings

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HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:32

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 18:31

I wish you well and that you get to resolve your feelings

And I hope you manage to grow up and stop slagging strangers off over dramatised rubbish.

crochetmonkey74 · 19/09/2022 18:34

HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:32

And I hope you manage to grow up and stop slagging strangers off over dramatised rubbish.

I wish you well

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HettyHensHideaway · 19/09/2022 18:35

tonightelmowillrise · 19/09/2022 18:30

you’re literally just imagining things the OP has said now which is very weird but sure crack on shouting into the wind about how this thread is terribly wrong instead of just clicking off it like everyone else does when they come across one they don’t get 🤦🏾‍♀️ enjoy!

Except everything I’ve said is exactly what’s she said. Feel free to re read it. And again, take your own advice and click off and not read my messages if you don’t want to. You’re an adult (I presume), you can make that choice