Why aren't people on benefits be asked to pick fruit? Why bring in immigrants?

[quietandcomplex]

Can someone explain to me why, when there are so many unemployed and on benefits, they aren't picking fruit for the farmers? Why bring immigrants into the country to do the job? This is not a political or racist or anything other post, it does not make sense to me, what am I missing?

This kind of stuff is usually pushed by the poorly informed people that believe the unemployed of the country take their hard earned tax money.

They don't seem to realise that those of us receiving 'top up' benefits are also paying tax. I cry inside a bit when I look at my payslip.

That must be really hard. It is horrible reading some of these benefits bashing threads when you have a disabled loved one. People have no idea.

That must be really hard. It is horrible reading some of these benefits bashing threads when you have a disabled loved one. People have no idea.

Thank you :) it can be difficult but I've become extremely resilient, luckily. I was just highlighting the fact that a lot of people on 'benefits' (tax credits, in my case) are paying tax, national insurance and caring for disabled loved ones when we're not working. I honestly thought the whole 'benefits scroungers sitting around drinking, smoking and watching their massive TVs' thing was a bit outdated nowadays.

Can someone explain to me why the OP is so overwhelmingly dim and can’t answer this themselves…

1. The vast majority of "benefit claimants" are not actually unemployed, but working poor, earning low incomes that need topping up with tax credits/UC.

1. Picking fruit is physically demanding work, if you are not fit and well it's not an appropriate job.

1. Fruit/veg farms are rarely on public transport routes, and not everyone (especially the poor) has a car.

1. The wages are shockingly low, and many pickers are 'self employed' meaning it's very difficult to get top-up benefits if you're doing this kind of work.

Stop reading the daily mail

Do you mean they should buy some tarmac with their savings and just go round filling potholes in the neighbourhood?

Or do you mean that your local council have a budget and a plan for pothole-filling but they just can't get the staff?

Or do you mean 'I haven't really thought this through at all, but let's type it anyway'?

Do your cousin got a “nicer tent” just because he’s British. That’s disgusting behaviour on the farmer’s part tbh, if it’s true.

Nothing more to add, other than a hot and run post?
Like an explanation of why my post is a joke.

Hit and run... 😂

Why aren't 'most people' on benefits physically fit? There are council run gyms for people like us, you know.

Some right bullshit excuses on this thread as predicted.😂

Most people claiming benefits actually work. Lots of people whom you see working in Tesco etc are on benefits as their wages are so low (yet shareholders continue to make profits…)
Fruit-picking would be very hard on the body. Only young people could do it, I think. If we are going to abuse a proportion of society, why don’t we make all the school kids do it? Or students?
Or maybe the farmers could make the job not so shit and badly paid.
A friend of mine who is a part-time small farmer says that people in the U.K. pay too little for their fruit and vegetables. We throw too much out because it is so cheap. I guess the truth is that we could have well-paid farm workers and pay double for our food.

There's plenty of bullshit around benefits and the poorly researched and baseless opinions held by idiots about people.on benefits.

But, some people believe the earth is flat...
You can show all the evidence and facts you like, but they'll still believe the earth is flat.
Education has failed to teach some people how to think for themselves and just parrot what they read on their mate Dave's Facebook.

Why stop at your son, why not all the children, malingering little buggers. They get all that summer holiday, perfect timing for fruit picking, could pay for their schooling that could. Yay no more taxes spent on useless schooling.

Let's go further and have those really little children chimney sweeping.

I was quite a lot better off on tax credits as a single mum than I am married. Worked half the hours I do now, too.

I've never been better off on tax credits or uc than I was working. Never got my free goat ir flat screen tv either.
I must be doing benefits wrong.

That's why the Tories changed it.
People got annoyed at the idea of people having enough money to feed children.

Universal credit makes sure their always on the back foot and playing catch up, that's why there's a built in 5 weeks with no money when you first claim. You can take out an advance, sure, that you pay back at £40+ a month taken directly from your UC putting you always £40 down every month.

For the same reason we don't have workhouses or concentration camps I suppose.

The OP, seems to have fucked off - perhaps a lot of reading and writing make their brain hurt - but A) many people on benefits also work and B) the logistics of getting people out to farms every day would negate any supposed economic benefit.

And if the child they receive benefit for is a baby, do you suggest the mother ties it to her back while she's working, or leave it home alone?

There's plenty of bullshit in thinking that society owes somebody something for free. It's not free.
The current situation surrounding benefits much like our energy usage is NOT sustainable.
People need to stop withering on about paying tax whilst on benefits.
There's a difference between net positive and net negative. What we have at the moment is a sizable portion of healthy adults who have chosen for whatever reason to not put enough into the system.
Eventually, it'll capsize the figurative rowing boat.

What we have at the moment is a sizable portion of healthy adults who have chosen for whatever reason to not put enough into the system

Evidence?

I can only think you've never had to claim benefits (aside from things like child benefit). I can assure you that claiming job seekers' allowance is as degrading as they can make it. Nobody would choose it, despite that the Daily Heil readers would think.

Those who do have other issues and wouldn't be employable anyway.

What we have at the moment is a sizable portion of healthy adults who have chosen for whatever reason to not put enough into the system.

You're an idiot. There is often very little 'choice' involved.

Again - there is a proportion but it is tiny. Unemployment is currently below 4%. Of those 4%, many will be between/actively looking for jobs; other will be 'technically' employable but in fact unable to find work because of eg illiteracy or innumeracy, etc etc.

A proportion, yes? The horde of layabouts that exist in your fevered Daily Mail wet dream? obviously not.