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If your accent is RP English, how do you pronounce “Glasgow”?

388 replies

Wigeon · 31/07/2022 20:19

Settle an argument between DH and me:

YANBU: Glasgow in an RP English accent is pronounced “Glarsgow” with a long “arr” or “arh” in the middle. Like the “a” in “car” (in an RP accent).

YABU: Glasgow in an RP English accent is pronounced “Gl-ah-sgow”, with a short “ah”, like the “a” in “cat” (in an RP accent).

OP posts:
Denny53 · 31/07/2022 20:45

landoflostcontent · 31/07/2022 20:24

Anyone else say Glaz-go

Me!

Sandysandwich · 31/07/2022 20:45

Southeast but still say it Glaz-go,
Not everything gets the long a

ivfbabymomma1 · 31/07/2022 20:46

Glaz-go

DappledThings · 31/07/2022 20:46

Glahsgo.

Ignore the r! Yet another thread which makes no sense because it takes no account of rhotic/non-rhotic accents.

If you use "ah" to demonstrate the long a sound it makes for much better comprehension than using "ar". To me ah and ar are the same but for rhotic accents it makes no sense.

CatSeany · 31/07/2022 20:47

Glaz-go

sweeneytoddsrazor · 31/07/2022 20:48

Glaz go and where i am its baf not barth or bath

FireworksAndSparklers · 31/07/2022 20:48

I have a kind of hybrid RP English accent (dad's side of family were properly upper class so they all had elocution lessons; mum's side very middle class and went to school in a big standard comprehensive on the outskirts of London then moved to Herefordshire for most of my secondary schooling) and learned to say Glarsgow but in my teens I think I realised the correct pronunciation was with a short a and I've said it with a short a ever since. I must only have ever heard Glarsgow growing up!

StatisticallyChallenged · 31/07/2022 20:48

Scottish (Edinburgh) - Glaz-go

InChocolateWeTrust · 31/07/2022 20:50

I think possibly if you are the queen it is "glez-go", with a rather clipped short vowel "a".

Wouldloveanother · 31/07/2022 20:50

Glass-go

but I’m not RP so don’t know why I’m posting really

TeacupDrama · 31/07/2022 20:51

even in RP place names are pronounced how they are pronounced in the area maybe in 1950's people said glarsgo but it is incorrect and bad manners to not pronounce it in the way the locals do as if you are correcting them on not knowing how to pronounce their own location, it has smattering of snobbery and colonialism too but Glasgow has never ever been pronounced as Glarsgo in Scotland so it is incorrect. Loch Ness is not pronounced Lock Ness wherever you are from.
Not every single "A" in RP is prounonced as "AR" there is a difference in RP between cat and cart
I also don't mean shortened versions such as Brum instead of Birmingham

Live4weekend · 31/07/2022 20:52

PlanetNormal · 31/07/2022 20:44

DP is a native RP speaker and he pronounces Glasgow without the added r because that’s how the locals say it should be pronounced. Which means I, as a northerner, should pronounce Bath as Barth, but I just can’t. It feels so pretentious & wrong.

He must know different locals to me! If its ever pronounces different to Glaz-go it's Glesca

queenmeadhbh · 31/07/2022 20:52

DappledThings · 31/07/2022 20:46

Glahsgo.

Ignore the r! Yet another thread which makes no sense because it takes no account of rhotic/non-rhotic accents.

If you use "ah" to demonstrate the long a sound it makes for much better comprehension than using "ar". To me ah and ar are the same but for rhotic accents it makes no sense.

Was going to say exactly the same thing. Pronunciation threads always degenerate into “there’s no R in Bath!” because the “r” only makes sense if you’ve got that non-rhotic accent to begin with. Personally I think we should all use phonetic alphabet :-P

CbaThinkingOfAUsername · 31/07/2022 20:53

BeyondMyWits · 31/07/2022 20:27

Glez-go according to the posh side of the family.

Lol this is similar to how more, non posh, shall we say, Scots would say it. Glez-gay.

lurchermummy · 31/07/2022 20:53

I'm from the North so I have a flat "a" in glass, bath etc so I say glas-go not glars-go

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 31/07/2022 20:55

Homes counties - I say a short a like cat, but I also use a short a in castle - because my mum spent her childhood in the north and these are the bits of her childhood accent she retained and passed on to me.

Brawsome · 31/07/2022 20:57

Glaz-gow. For the others that favour Glars-go etc, Is the ‘r’ actually pronounced? And if so, why, since it isn’t there in the first place? This pronunciation thing confuses me massively. ( and, with a name that ends in the letter ‘a’, I’ve never understood why people sometimes add an ‘r’ on to the end). I tend to interpret things literally, so I find this quite confusing, regardless of region of origin.

theworldhas · 31/07/2022 20:58

Glarsgo sounds almost posh to me rather than simply RP (or estuary which is what most so called RP actually is these days)

Krustykrabpizza · 31/07/2022 20:58

landoflostcontent · 31/07/2022 20:24

Anyone else say Glaz-go

Yes me, but what is RP?

AntlerRose · 31/07/2022 20:59

I am in surrey and say glahsgo. I'm aware i'm wrong but i feel a bit affected if i say glazgo, like saying paree for paris.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 31/07/2022 20:59

DappledThings · 31/07/2022 20:46

Glahsgo.

Ignore the r! Yet another thread which makes no sense because it takes no account of rhotic/non-rhotic accents.

If you use "ah" to demonstrate the long a sound it makes for much better comprehension than using "ar". To me ah and ar are the same but for rhotic accents it makes no sense.

Yes this.

WoodlandWalks123 · 31/07/2022 20:59

RP - Glaahhz-go

DappledThings · 31/07/2022 20:59

Brawsome · 31/07/2022 20:57

Glaz-gow. For the others that favour Glars-go etc, Is the ‘r’ actually pronounced? And if so, why, since it isn’t there in the first place? This pronunciation thing confuses me massively. ( and, with a name that ends in the letter ‘a’, I’ve never understood why people sometimes add an ‘r’ on to the end). I tend to interpret things literally, so I find this quite confusing, regardless of region of origin.

No, see my post above. Using "ar" in this context is confusing. The sound being described is "ah". For non-rhotic accents ah and ar sound the same so people lazily use ar as the example sound when using ah would be far more widely understood.

Rummikub · 31/07/2022 21:00

I’m northern but lived in a few places.

Had my accent assessed (I cant remember why- an exhibition for something)
They said my accent was RP.

And I say Glaz go
Short A.

Rummikub · 31/07/2022 21:02

Krustykrabpizza · 31/07/2022 20:58

Yes me, but what is RP?

RP = Received Pronunciation .

I guess what was called BBC English