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If your accent is RP English, how do you pronounce “Glasgow”?

388 replies

Wigeon · 31/07/2022 20:19

Settle an argument between DH and me:

YANBU: Glasgow in an RP English accent is pronounced “Glarsgow” with a long “arr” or “arh” in the middle. Like the “a” in “car” (in an RP accent).

YABU: Glasgow in an RP English accent is pronounced “Gl-ah-sgow”, with a short “ah”, like the “a” in “cat” (in an RP accent).

OP posts:
gracielooloo · 31/07/2022 22:00

Gles-ga up here! NE Scotland.

MrsMoastyToasty · 31/07/2022 22:01

@manlyago no offence taken!

DH has actually lived in SW England longer than he ever lived in Scotland. I think that he's picked up the rhotic "r" that is common in Bristolian.

Bristolians also like to add the letter L to the end of words.

MummyGummy · 31/07/2022 22:02

MrsMoastyToasty · 31/07/2022 21:41

DH is from Wishaw (pronounced Wishy by locals) near Glasgow. He would say Glasgae to other locals and Glarz-gow to non locals
We live in Keynsham (pronounced Cane-shum) near Bath and Glastonbury. Locals pronounce them Barf and Glaston-bree.

Depends which part of ‘Barth’ they live in 😉

Wbeezer · 31/07/2022 22:03

Why has no one else objected to OP saying RP is the standard British Accent, there's no such thing as a standard British a Accent, there are English, Welsh, Irish and Scots accents.

TeacupDrama · 31/07/2022 22:03

@DuesToTheDirt in some parts of Glasgow particularly late on a friday night saying Glarsgo might get you a Glasgow kiss

Namechange192727171 · 31/07/2022 22:03

Glaz gow

hulahooper2 · 31/07/2022 22:03

There is no r , it is glaz go , in every form of the English language

IncompleteSenten · 31/07/2022 22:04

landoflostcontent · 31/07/2022 20:24

Anyone else say Glaz-go

I do.

goldfinchonthelawn · 31/07/2022 22:05

landoflostcontent · 31/07/2022 20:24

Anyone else say Glaz-go

I do. Glazz-go

LadyLolaRuben · 31/07/2022 22:07

RP is the Queen's English. Standard English is the next category "down". They're not the same

DasAlteLeid · 31/07/2022 22:07

@Wigeon to answer your actual question, it seems those of us with RP/southern English accents pronounce it Glarsgow (long ‘a’ sound but written with the ‘r’ to avoid confusion with a short ‘a’ sound). So YANBU.

Wouldloveanother · 31/07/2022 22:08

DasAlteLeid · 31/07/2022 22:07

@Wigeon to answer your actual question, it seems those of us with RP/southern English accents pronounce it Glarsgow (long ‘a’ sound but written with the ‘r’ to avoid confusion with a short ‘a’ sound). So YANBU.

That’s more a South Eastern accent. The south western accent has a flat ‘a’

scissorsandsellotape · 31/07/2022 22:11

Glarsgo

Wigeon · 31/07/2022 22:11

Wbeezer · 31/07/2022 22:03

Why has no one else objected to OP saying RP is the standard British Accent, there's no such thing as a standard British a Accent, there are English, Welsh, Irish and Scots accents.

You might have noticed I said standard English, not British, and that I put “standard” in quote marks. “Standard” doesn’t mean “better” or “more correct”, but I think most native English speakers know exactly what English accent is considered “standard” in the UK.

OP posts:
FilePhoto · 31/07/2022 22:12

FilePhoto · 31/07/2022 21:50

Like the a in cat.

I have friends who went to Eton and they'd say it the same as me.

This comment and my vote were opposites. And the comment iswrong.

I would say Glarsgow. With a long 'a'. Glar rhymes with car.
But I'd call someone from Glasgow 'Glaswegian' with a short 'a'

scissorsandsellotape · 31/07/2022 22:13

I think with RP you always pronounce the local place name in your accent
Eg I talked about reddcar Whereas folk from there would call it redkah

Tellmewhyaintnothinbutaheartbreak · 31/07/2022 22:14

Jesus.

as a Glaswegian this has opened my eyes 😂😂😂

I tend to pronounce it as “best city in the world..” 😌 but each to their own.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 31/07/2022 22:14

I've got a fairly RP accent. I say Glars-go where the first syllable rhymes with Mars or Vase.

Wigeon · 31/07/2022 22:15

LadyLolaRuben · 31/07/2022 22:07

RP is the Queen's English. Standard English is the next category "down". They're not the same

Well, as part of (ok, the only part of) my extensive research before posting this thread, I watched some of this from a random English teacher, and he reckons that the “standard” modern English accent is RP, and that the English the Queen speaks (eg “cet” instead of “cat”) is actually a different English. So yeah as my teen DD says.

OP posts:
queenmeadhbh · 31/07/2022 22:17

Wigeon · 31/07/2022 22:11

You might have noticed I said standard English, not British, and that I put “standard” in quote marks. “Standard” doesn’t mean “better” or “more correct”, but I think most native English speakers know exactly what English accent is considered “standard” in the UK.

i dunno about that. I’m in NI and I only know something about what different English accents sound like because I went to uni in England (and also therefore have English friends). Plenty of people here wouldn’t be able to identify Yorkshire vs south eastern vs cockney etc. They can hear the difference and might think one sounds posher than the other but I’m not sure e.g. my family members of my grandparents could confidently imagine or identify what you mean by “standard” or “RP” any more than most English people could identify Belfast vs Derry.

oviraptor21 · 31/07/2022 22:17

PuppyMonkey · 31/07/2022 21:54

Why is Glastonbury short a but Glasgow is not in RP? Confused

its almost as if the RP rules are a load of bollocks or something.Grin

No idea @PuppyMonkey it just is 🤷🏼‍♀️
Could say the same about so many other English words and place names.

manlyago · 31/07/2022 22:17

@PuppyMonkey maybe crossed wires?

Glahhhzgo is incorrect imho don’t care whether you think your accent is Received Pronunciation or not. Same principle as Glastonbury. It sounds wrong Glaaaahhhstonbury.

That’s the way I pronounce it and I’m Scottish and lived in Glasgow for a long time. Thinking about it, I say it both ways with a shorter “a” too but definitely no “r”. I think I find it easier to go from the l to the s with a slightly longer a, if that’s makes sense?! Are you Glaswegian?

nokidshere · 31/07/2022 22:20

I say Glaz-go,, I live near B-A-th (short a) and Glastonbry.

My DH & sons (southerners) say Glarsgow, Barth, Glastonberry

manlyago · 31/07/2022 22:20

All these rrrrs are blowing my mind! Do you really say an r in vase/Glasgow?

Is it because your r and my Scottish r are different? I roll my rrrs so there’s no missing them!

mind blown

Womencanlift · 31/07/2022 22:21

Anyone putting a random ‘r’ in the middle of Glasgow would get swiftly directed back to platform 1 of Central Station and put on a train back down to the home of the “standard” (WTAF is that anyway 🙄) accent

Now for the proper test, how would someone with an RP accent pronounce Milngavie……

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