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Concerns over primary school LGBTQ+ club

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holihell · 28/07/2022 21:32

Just heard this might be a thing for my DC school next year. Surely it can wait for secondary stage?? Why are we offering primary children opportunities to sexually identify so young? I get true gay kids often have these feelings young and am all for talking openly but I do fear as well that by having a specific 'fun' club about it those who are a bit lost / or, dare I say it follow trends, may be steered down a path that's not necessarily for them.. am I being unreasonable to be concerned?

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Finallybreathe · 13/09/2023 15:50

Steer them the wrong way? What do you mean by that?

BookCzar · 13/09/2023 15:59

"I don’t understand this phenomenon of wanting to put yourself in a box with a label. Just let kids be themselves and grow without any outside steering."

This with bells on.

tokennamechange · 13/09/2023 18:12

lifeinthelastlane · 13/09/2023 15:46

Which feelings are normal? The LGBT or the QIA+ ones? I don't think some of the latter are "normal" for a primary age child to feel.
How do parent separate out from such a broad umbrella what will actually be covered in this club?

What a weird comment. Do you even know what the letters stand for?

Surely if you're worrying about over sexualising children then you would prefer it if all of them actually identified as 'A' which is asexual? You're saying you think it's more "normal" for a five year old to feel sexually attracted to boys and girls than to not feel sexually attracted to anyone?

Plus I is 'intersex' which is a medical description, so not a feeling at all. Nobody feels intersex, they just are or they aren't, although it's very rare so not really something that would need to be discussed in any huge detail. I think it's insane you'd be happy for children to discuss feeling like they are literally born in the wrong body (T) but not the I, which is surely much less controversial, as if you aren't intersex it doesn't affect anyone else!

lifeinthelastlane · 13/09/2023 18:47

The +. Google that and see how appropriate that is for a primary club.
Intersex doesn't belong in the acronym, why is it even there? It's not a sexual orientation OR a gender identity.
I absolutely think a club for children who think they might feel a same sex attraction is more appropriate than one that tells them they might be asexual or omnisexual or queer (without an understanding of the history of that term).
I struggle to see what's "uninformed" about that.

lifeinthelastlane · 13/09/2023 18:48

tokennamechange · 13/09/2023 18:12

What a weird comment. Do you even know what the letters stand for?

Surely if you're worrying about over sexualising children then you would prefer it if all of them actually identified as 'A' which is asexual? You're saying you think it's more "normal" for a five year old to feel sexually attracted to boys and girls than to not feel sexually attracted to anyone?

Plus I is 'intersex' which is a medical description, so not a feeling at all. Nobody feels intersex, they just are or they aren't, although it's very rare so not really something that would need to be discussed in any huge detail. I think it's insane you'd be happy for children to discuss feeling like they are literally born in the wrong body (T) but not the I, which is surely much less controversial, as if you aren't intersex it doesn't affect anyone else!

I'm pretty sure it's viewed as transphobic to say that Trans people feel like they are "literally born in the wrong body".

Lemmony · 13/09/2023 19:55

I am as woke as it gets, but this is honestly too far! Kids don't need to be thinking about this!

Clymene · 13/09/2023 20:19

No clubs for sexuality or identity need to be set up in primary schools because this shouldn't be a concern for children.

Sickoffamilydrama · 19/09/2023 22:02

Sickoffamilydrama · 29/07/2022 00:16

My DD is autistic and went to one of those clubs first year of secondary school, I didn't even know the club existed, it is in fact the only lunch time club run by the school.

I found out about the club after weeks of her having tics and being anxious because she blurted out I don't know what I am, I need to choose.

So a pre pubescent child was sent into a state of high anxiety because she had no sexual feelings yet....

What angered me the most is when I raised this with school and asked what training and support had been given to psychologically support children with understanding their sexuality, especially for neurodiverse children. I didn't get a straight answer.

Probably cause they answer is fuck all, but it's okay cause the teacher is gay.

The older gay children still get bullied and girls still get sexually harassed not it's okay the school have scored woke points have a grooming LGBT club 🤔

How about we teach children about a variety of relationships, consent and safe sex.

I'm linking back to my previous comment.

I don't care if DD turns out Gay, Straight or a Hedgehog as long as she's happy and safe.

We barely understand about the development of sexual identity let alone in neurodiverse children, how can teachers with no psychological training in anyway support children with such complex needs when they can barely even support them when teaching (something they are trained to do).

DD is easily manipulated and just wants to fit in she morphs herself to who she thinks she should be which is very common in Autistic girls. She is also obsessive can people not see what could happen with a child like her?

Depending on what you read about 2-3% of girls are autistic ( although less than 1% are diagnosed). This is a large amount of children that will have similar traits to DD who must be considered when schools set anything up like this.

When you look at the Cass report the amount of Autistic girls treated at the tavistock for gender issues its way above the average population, something is going on there. It's like people have decided to experiment on autistic girls and that is utterly petrifying as a parent.

Luckily my DD is at a different school now as her last was shit at supporting her SEN and she now obsessed with make up and Kappa socks.

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