To say suck it up like the rest of us???

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I come from a socialist family, we had striking miner's kids living with us for respite during the strikes. However, the railway unions are taking the pee aren't they? Transport workers aren't the only people taking a hit right now. What about the 100's of thousands of hospitality, leisure, carer and charity workers in bars, cafe's, restaurants, theme parks, swimming pools, hotels, campsites, working in supporting all our children and elderly relatives etc that are getting between tiny and zero wage increases yet have no option but to carry on and make ends meet. Why can't railway workers see the problems they are going to cause and why can't they see that they are IN THE SAME BOAT AS EVERYONE ELSE (except the wealthy obvs).

YABU - striking railway workers are more deserving of pay increases than the rest of us

YANBU - we need to pull together and see every member of society through this and not cause each other harm

You are missing the point.
We are all deserving of a decent wage, if they have the ability to fight for that then yes they should.

You should not be looking at keeping them down but looking at bringing everybody else up with them.

Redirect your angers at those responsible for the stagnant wages and rises in the cost of living

That's the point of a strike. Otherwise no one would care and nothing would happen.

We've been fucked over by ridiculous train prices, the workers have been fucked over by their wages, were all fucked over left right and centre and that's why we all need to exercise collective bargaining power.

How do you think rights evolved for you to be able to work x hours or days instead of 60 hours, 7 days a week? To have paid leave? Parental leave policies?

Our employment rights would be horrible if people didn't act. Don't be naive.

Your anger should be directed at the fact they have to do this to try and get an increase in their wage in line with the cost of living.

I work in a school where we're all chronically underpaid. Like, entry level salaries even though I have a degree. Shall schools strike? No?

Totally agree. There are many professions out there who deserve much bigger salaries and benefits.

Nothing will change until people are seriously inconvenienced.

This government have no interest in negotiating, so what would you have the rail workers do?

Without unions you wouldn't have paid maternity leave, and 8 hour working day, paid holidays, or be protected from getting the sack because you got pregnant or became ill. Those rights had to be fought for by unions.

Of course I think everyone should be on fair pay but railway workers don't get a bad deal at all.

If you read into it and ignore the headlines about the drivers salary then a) some do and b) it's not all about pay.

They should actually. This mentality people have of if it's shit for me it should be shit for everybody is pathetic.

We should be all working on making it better for everyone. There's enough wealth in this country for everyone to have a good standard of living and working conditions. Why are you turning against working class people who are fighting for what they deserve and not the bosses at the top making everyone miserable?

I’m glad your arse has been handed to you on a plate. What an ignorant and stupid OP.

The strikes aren't just about pay; conditions and safety are major concerns. Certain workers are seeing their contracted hours/shifts increased with a tiny pay rise, making them worse off. The whole point of striking is to create an inconvenience to demonstrate the importance of their jobs.

Yep. Supermarket workers are not paid that much.

Let's go on strike so you can't get food. Anyone still supporting us?

I would honestly support you. We shouldn't stand for shit wages anymore. The trickle down economy is a catastrophic failure. We saw how important supermarket workers were/are during the pandemic. If they were to strike I would not blame them, irrespective of the impact.

I'm a child from a mining community and I've got family members who starved during strike action. It's important.

Go on then.

the problem is benefits are topping up poor paying salaries to pay enormous rents and bills.

if your rent and bills were £500 pm, then a salary of £1500 would be enough.

when your rent it nearer £1k and your bills £400...how do you buy food or shoes?

Increase tax on private landlords to 50%. hopefully that will release a lot of housing to FTBs.

In no particular order - Teachers, Police, NHS staff, Firefighters - give them all 10% backdated to last April. They might then catch up with the private sector (although I doubt it).

My Ds works on the railways he earns twenty six thousand a year, he works shifts & gets one weekend off every six weeks he has been physically attacked a couple of times, verbal abuse practically on a daily basis.

You get a discount on your shopping.

You won't give that up.

Some people swallow Daily Mail headlines whole, and won't be happy until working people are on their knees.

Interesting. Only one person who would be happy to be unable to buy food.

The rank stink of hypocrisy is strong here.

Exactly this.
If people looked into it, it's not just about pay.
But even if it were, yes, people deserve a decent wage.
Some people play right into the wealthiest hands, listening to the headlines, turning the working class against each-other to distract from the absolute disgraceful behaviour of making us poorer and poorer as they get wealthier and wealthier,

I would support anyone who went out on strike for a decent wage or better working conditions or ensuring their workplace remained safe for its employees and it customers. Too right I would.

Do you know how much profit the rail companies made last year?! How about they reduce their profits, stop talking about enforced redundancy and give their workforce a pay rise, some of whom haven’t had one for 4 years.

OP it's not a race to the bottom. Everyone should work together and support each other to get paid fairly.

Your YABU statement is bollocks and I voted that way partly for that reason, partly because I don’t agree with you anyway. It’s not a race to the bottom. I’m on minimum wage in an often difficult job and don’t begrudge others striking. Railway workers, like hospitality staff and others, put up with a lot of shit in their job and from what I understand, it’s not just about pay but working conditions. Support them totally, as I would teachers, nhs staff and anyone else who’s getting a rough deal right now.

Tesco alone made £2,191,000,000 in profits last year. I'd support their workers demanding more than £10.10 per hour.

Of course I'd support this. Why not?

YABVU thoguh, as others have said, your YABU is unreasonable.