CF Tourists - is it worse ??

[WeWillLookBack]

We have just got back from a few days in Cornwall - we live in Devon, so spend a lot of time in both counties and are very used to tourists and holiday makers. We stayed in a 'pub with rooms on the beach, which was lovely. However - I am utterly gobsmacked by the level of CF we have witnessed in the 3 days. It feels like peoples entitlement is off the scale. I don't know how those in hospitality are dealing with it.

Wednesday - Woman went mental at the poor young lad serving in the beer garden - insisted she had booked a table outside. Very politely told her that they do not take reservations for the garden, just the restaurant. Screaming ' Are you calling me a liar'. He went in, and didn't come back out.

Friday AM - they serve breakfast for guests 8am-9.30am, then open for breakfast at 9.30am (lots of signs saying open at 9.30am). At 8.30am a group were outside - rattling the door. Member of staff opens the door, and lets them know they open at 9.30am. Lots of moaning - insisting they can have breakfast now etc. She says no - very polite. So he tells her it is disgusting that they allow guests to sit in the window eating when others can't ! ( and to make up for their error, they should serve them breakfast too)

Friday evening - Family of 6 rocked up - no space in the beer garden. Started shouting - so the owner came out. Man very angry - they had driven for 6 hours - and the kids needed feeding. The owner was great - polite but firm. The man actually suggested the owner walk around the beer garden and checked when people were leaving so they could secure a table. He said no. A lot of swearing. Asked to leave.

Drive home Saturday morning. Along a winding road along the coast - car in front just stops. Man gets out and stands looking at the sea. Single lane - so I cant go around him. After a few moments I beep - he stomps over to my car and says 'Can I help you' ... I say you have blocked the road - could you move please. To which he responds 'I am looking at the view - maybe you could just be kind' FFS !!!

I beg your pardon.

In North Wales any cars parked on clearways get towed. Of course if a fire engine can't get through, they can always use the provision in the FRS act and force their way through.

I know, I just feel a bit embarrassed about it now.

It's not just in the UK. I'm on holiday abroad, staying on a beautiful ranch in the middle of nowhere. You can hear the birds, moths, and a a group of Americans (could be Canadians, to be fair) playing loud sweary music on the shared veranda and bouncing a basketball 🙄

People are definitely worse
I take bookings. Not for anything massively urgent, and not medical
Will offer the first appointment and guarantee it will be
"That's not good enough, what are you going to do about it?"
"Have you nothing sooner?" (No, or I would have said?)
"I don't know why I use you, your service is always fucking pathetic"
"Where's your manager? They need to know the kind of service you're offering"

Today I got shouted at by someone who wanted a booking sooner than 2 weeks away for a totally not urgent thing
So tired of being spoken to like I'm a naughty child when I'm just trying to do my job

Oh and as for wellies, I can guarantee

Offer wellies
These don't fit
I don't want to wear them
I'm not wearing them unless they're new
Have you not got another colour?
I can't wear them because X/Y/Z

Don't offer wellies and let people wear what they want, stick a giant sign up about it
My feet got wet
Nobody told me
I fell over and hurt myself
My socks are ruined and they're designer
My child has wet feet and they're crying
Someone will try and wear 4 inch heels and complain when they break them

@NadineDorries

I used to work at a pub & came across this kind of behaviour all the time, especially around the use of the beer garden! They way some people spoke to me was shocking. It showed suck a lack of respect.

Even rarer driving from Lowestoft to London which would involve going down the A14 to the A12. No tiny country roads.

Is that you Carrie? 🤣

Could have not replied,
Could have just provided the link,
Could have been polite, but you CHOSE to be rude.
The irony of it on such a post🤦‍♀️.

@JohannSebastianBach might have asked absent-mindedly, could be on payg and low on data, bad Internet, tired, thought someone might not mind answering etc.
There's never a reason to be rude, especially when the person wasn't even rude to you.

I live in a seaside town. Visitors forget that people live here and are about their daily lives and they use the town like it was a holiday village…. They look surprised if you’re driving behind them down a street they’re walking down the middle of with the entire family, leave rubbish from their takeaway lunches ( even though there a loads of bins within very short walking distances), feed the seagulls , even though there are signs asking not to) then get indignant when said seagulls start attacking, they are loud and lairy in pubs and complain about the prices and even though there are loads of public bins, will put their rubbish in domestic bins, leaving you without room to put your own rubbish!! (I came home to a large umbrella, several pizza boxes, a towel and numerous drink bottles in mine -and similar on many , many previous occasions- when I lived in a flat near the sea front where the bin stood by my front door! One day, someone decided to leave their broken stroller right in my doorway!!) I mean, well done for throwing rubbish away, but not in my personal bin, please!
Then there’s the parking in side streets so that people that live there can’t get near their homes all day, when the car parking for all day is only about £4.50 in a long stay car park!
I wish I understood why some people feel they are so entitled that they can do what they want and sod everyone else. When and why did that attitude start???

@WeWillLookBack it’s not just holidaymakers. Went to do some errands in town during my lunch break (wfh) and encountered several miserable so and so’s. I said to someone in a shop “is it me or does it feel like everyone out today is extra rude/entitled” and they said they felt the same and was glad I’d mentioned it. Also had someone randomly stop in the middle of the road road for no apparent reason who couldn’t see any problem. I despair!

Yes you did, you just didn't notice (as the tourists who clobber me on the tube every single fucking day don't notice).

@ForfuckssakeEXHstopbeingatwat you say she pointed to Google and didn't answer the question. She literally put the link for the nc500 site in her answer. I'd say that's answering the question.

@squashyhat here's a tool for next time 😉

www.letmegooglethatforyou.com

Example of how it works.

If you are repeatedly getting clobbered by rucksacks just give people space

If you can't manage that ( most people can with a little effort ) go earlier or later

I agree. The students I work with are unfailingly polite, funny and very grateful for their opportunity after 2 years of online learning. They care about the environment and always pop their water bottles in our recycling bin.

Most instances of terrible/rude/entitled/violent behaviour I have seen in our local tourist areas are men aged 40+ whose wives follow along behind looking embarrassed, miserable and cowed. I always want to slip them the Women's Aid number as I imagine living with these aggressive, foul mouthed, misogynistic pricks is horrible.

I believe when you leave school it should be mandatory to work for 3 months in hospitality so you learn how to not behave in public and realise why people in the know tip

You are my people! I thought maybe I was just getting grumpy in my old age buy maybe not. The level of entitlement and selfishness seems to be on another level. I said to my husband 'you'd think after the pandemic, and everyone 'doing' the clapping/shopping for neighbours/looking out for the elderly etc that we'd have come out the other side being more understanding and aware of others'. Definitely not, I think it's worse than ever. I live near a large seaside town, full of tourists, and their behaviour disgusts me. Leaving dirty nappies on the beach (when there's a bin less than 50 yards away), leaving all their broken beach toys, throwing rubbish, letting their kids being annoying brats to others around them...and god forbid if you say anything (which I always do), they either look at you like you've got 2 heads or you get a mouthful of abuse. We are currently on holiday in majorca, in a hotel surrounded by rude, ignorant Germans and mouthy, entitled southerners and loud, sweary scousers. I sat yesterday watching people click their fingers at waiters (rather than getting off their backsides to go to the bar), moving their sunbeds across the walkway (because the sun was better) so no one could pass and had to walk right around the pool, letting their kids run up and down the corridor banging on people's doors (well they're only kids and they're just playing....what's my problem!!!!). My husband said 'leave it, stop getting into arguments with people' but I can't, it's bloody rude. I despair of people sometimes, I really do. And it does make me feel sad for my kids who I constantly make 'follow the rules and social etiquettes' because the feral kids seem to be having a much better time in their eyes.

Should be automatic month in prison, fine of £1,000 and ban from the area you shit in.

I honestly believe this is all down or mostly, to Brexit….I’m 68 and never seen the country so divided….peoples aggression is palpable.

Or people with rucksacks could just take them off and put them by their feeet.

*Although it has got worse in the last few years, it does go back decades, not just starting with Thatcher's "No society!"

Enid Blyton used to have her characters - especially the Famous Five - raging about the "trippers" who trespassed, played their transistor radios at full volume and left orange peel, paper bags, picnic remnants and smoking fires littering their wake.

The behaviour of the Five Find-Outers towards the village policeman, PC Goon, was absolutely appalling and they were encouraged in it by their parents.

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Don't be giving people ideas to go up a notch with the rudeness! Though I've seen that link before on Mumsnet.

Sadly I think this level of CF can be seen in every area of life. I work in education and the entitled attitude of a lot of parents and their kids is breathtaking! This is the next generation folks.