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CF Tourists - is it worse ??

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WeWillLookBack · 25/07/2022 22:59

We have just got back from a few days in Cornwall - we live in Devon, so spend a lot of time in both counties and are very used to tourists and holiday makers. We stayed in a 'pub with rooms on the beach, which was lovely. However - I am utterly gobsmacked by the level of CF we have witnessed in the 3 days. It feels like peoples entitlement is off the scale. I don't know how those in hospitality are dealing with it.

Wednesday - Woman went mental at the poor young lad serving in the beer garden - insisted she had booked a table outside. Very politely told her that they do not take reservations for the garden, just the restaurant. Screaming ' Are you calling me a liar'. He went in, and didn't come back out.

Friday AM - they serve breakfast for guests 8am-9.30am, then open for breakfast at 9.30am (lots of signs saying open at 9.30am). At 8.30am a group were outside - rattling the door. Member of staff opens the door, and lets them know they open at 9.30am. Lots of moaning - insisting they can have breakfast now etc. She says no - very polite. So he tells her it is disgusting that they allow guests to sit in the window eating when others can't ! ( and to make up for their error, they should serve them breakfast too)

Friday evening - Family of 6 rocked up - no space in the beer garden. Started shouting - so the owner came out. Man very angry - they had driven for 6 hours - and the kids needed feeding. The owner was great - polite but firm. The man actually suggested the owner walk around the beer garden and checked when people were leaving so they could secure a table. He said no. A lot of swearing. Asked to leave.

Drive home Saturday morning. Along a winding road along the coast - car in front just stops. Man gets out and stands looking at the sea. Single lane - so I cant go around him. After a few moments I beep - he stomps over to my car and says 'Can I help you' ... I say you have blocked the road - could you move please. To which he responds 'I am looking at the view - maybe you could just be kind' FFS !!!

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katseyes7 · 26/07/2022 12:32

This is what working with the public is like. I think everyone should have enforced national service where you have to work in hospitality or public facing low paid role.
This. ^
After nearly 30 years in a police role, and now working in retail part time until l get my state pension, l agree wholeheartedly.
I can honestly say that in the 3 years l've worked in retail l've had more abuse and disrespect than l did in nearly 3 decades previously.

namechange7654 · 26/07/2022 12:32

Omg the playing ridiculously loud music on the beach/moor/woods etc is a fairly new and awful one. Is antisocial behaviour not a recognised thing any more?

(I have a few times asked if they'd mind turning it down a bit, ut that usually leads to them "firmly enforcing their boundaries" ie refusing point blank to do anything at all that's not entirely self involved....... 🙄)

SirVixofVixHall · 26/07/2022 12:33

Cloeycat · 26/07/2022 08:13

My favourite is the ones who like to park all around the lifeboat station, including the launch area. Meaning a) the lifeboat launch is much much more difficult and slower and b) when there’s a call out the crew are having to park miles away and run to the station. My partners on the crew and I work in the cafe next door, when there’s a call and I’m working he normally, drops me the kids and off he goes. I’ve had tourists (even boat owners) shouting at me that it was inappropriate to take the 3 minutes to pop my kids in the corner and get back to work. I’ve been told that he shouldn’t be on the crew if I have to work as well, that he should just ignore the call etc.

We live in a tiny village with a small local population, and a massively inflated summer one. There isn’t the numbers of volunteers locally to keep our station running if everyone with kids drops out. 90% of calls are to idiots who are on holidays and don’t know how
to act on the water.

Agree strongly !

antelopevalley · 26/07/2022 12:33

Eunorition · 26/07/2022 12:32

People wondering where the CFs are, as in why do they not reply to the thread and explain why they shit in supermarket car parks, park on people's drives, empty their toilets in gardens and shout at wait staff...

It's an anonymous forum so it does seem odd that no one's popped up to insist on their God given right to curl one out on your kid's trampoline. However, I think it's more that people who go on forums to Have Discussions and Share Views and things simply aren't the kind of people who yell in cafes and hurl abuse at locals. Those people are always right, don't care what others think and have no need to discuss things on the internet. They already know everything.

So it's likely that anyone posting on a forum isn't 'that sort' because 'that sort' don't use discussion sites.

I think people will be posting here who are rude to service staff. But they will justify it in their mind so that this thread does not apply to them.

ThanksItHasPockets · 26/07/2022 12:35

Simonjt · 26/07/2022 12:13

Reconsider holidaying in the UK because some people are dangerous?

Some of us have manners, respect and patience, few of us like being in the security queue at the airport, especially when lots of people wait until the last second to sort their liquids, yet we manage not to glare at people, verbally abuse them or physically assault anyone. Also never been with a friend who has acted like a twat.

Well, yes. The UK has many destinations where physical assaults are not the norm, as I’m sure the police told you when you reported these violent incidents.

Malbecfan · 26/07/2022 12:35

Living 3 miles from the sea in East Devon, I recognise a lot of this CFery. Both DDs worked weekends/holidays in an ice cream shop. The owner was slated on Trip Advisor for his grumpiness but he stood up for his staff and wouldn't take any crap. If a customer was rude or abusive to his staff (mostly students) he went for them and threw them out.

There were signs up pre-Covid in the shop window, plus where all the flavours of ice cream were listed and above the till stating it was cash only. People still expected to pay with cards and got arsey when they were told they couldn't. There was a cash machine 100m away so it was hardly difficult for them.

DD2 said that most children were lovely; it was the older customers who were the most entitled and rude. The people who had allergies were always really grateful to her as she would hand over the packaging for them to check themselves. The most annoying people were those who wanted an ice cream for their dog but didn't want to pay full price!

Simonjt · 26/07/2022 12:38

ThanksItHasPockets · 26/07/2022 12:35

Well, yes. The UK has many destinations where physical assaults are not the norm, as I’m sure the police told you when you reported these violent incidents.

I’ll be sure to avoid the cotswolds in future and craster, extremely dangerous places.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 26/07/2022 12:38

Eunorition · 26/07/2022 12:32

People wondering where the CFs are, as in why do they not reply to the thread and explain why they shit in supermarket car parks, park on people's drives, empty their toilets in gardens and shout at wait staff...

It's an anonymous forum so it does seem odd that no one's popped up to insist on their God given right to curl one out on your kid's trampoline. However, I think it's more that people who go on forums to Have Discussions and Share Views and things simply aren't the kind of people who yell in cafes and hurl abuse at locals. Those people are always right, don't care what others think and have no need to discuss things on the internet. They already know everything.

So it's likely that anyone posting on a forum isn't 'that sort' because 'that sort' don't use discussion sites.

They might not do those specific things but I think that many people point fingers at others for doing obnoxious things that they themselves do, just differently, and fail to recognise/acknowledge. Posting on the thread isn't a refuge from that behaviour either.

Entitled people are everywhere as are snappy, bad-tempered, self-indulgent and 'I'm alright Jack' people. Every.bloody.where.

Antarcticant · 26/07/2022 12:40

namechange7654 · 26/07/2022 12:32

Omg the playing ridiculously loud music on the beach/moor/woods etc is a fairly new and awful one. Is antisocial behaviour not a recognised thing any more?

(I have a few times asked if they'd mind turning it down a bit, ut that usually leads to them "firmly enforcing their boundaries" ie refusing point blank to do anything at all that's not entirely self involved....... 🙄)

Yes, that's annoying. I've never confronted anyone as I don't want to get abuse, but why people don't use headphones in public is beyond me. Do they think their taste in music is so good that they are doing everyone a favour? Interestingly, I've never once heard music I enjoy being played in that scenario, even though I am not especially fussy about what I listen to.

namechange7654 · 26/07/2022 12:41

TheHuntingoftheSnark · 26/07/2022 11:26

This is bollocks, CF is present in all ages. The gen z I know are achingly polite.

I feel like 30-45ish seems to be the most difficult age group to deal with (Fwiw I'm 40 myself!) But i guess these are the people most likely to have younger children, and to be more stressed on holiday.

Teenagers these days can be a bit passive, and they don't like to take responsibility for anything, but I don't find them entitled/overtly rude compared with teenagers 15 years ago (I'm a secondary teacher)

whynotwhatknot · 26/07/2022 12:42

very rude although i did the same once didnt shout but said i had booked a table outside-we dont do that said the barman i said well i did speak t someone here who booked me in

no we dont do that-i poitely said ok thanks and found a table

Iwant2move · 26/07/2022 12:49

I own lodges with hot tubs. The hot tubs are completely drained, cleaned and re-filled between guests. I leave instructions with a copy of the control panel, pre-measured vials of chemicals to top up after use and a list of do's and dont's (mainly associated with supervising children and basic hygiene).
I have had hot tubs with cheese, bread and bacon in them. This week one was full of glitter, the other was piss yellow and stank to high heaven (after two days).
I've had guests use the hot tub covers as slides for their children.
I've had tidemarks consisting of fake tan, tobacco and weed.
I've found them left half empty with the pumps running.
I have had guests allow their children to draw on the carpets inside the lodges.
Irons, scissors and chargers for the vacuum cleaners stolen.
One guest flushed so many sanitary products down the loo, she blocked the drains and raw sewage was backing up into the kitchen sink. (I leave pedal bins and liners in all the bathrooms so she had no excuse).
I've turned up to clean hot tubs and the guests are all sitting in the tub even though they should have checked out 30 minutes before.
I've had guests demand refunds because we have come to clean the tubs (they are pre-warned) but they didn't realise it was the owner doing the cleaning and claim to feel intimidated.
I had one guest demand I return to the lodge and turn the radiators up for him because his infant is cold. When I explained all he needed to do was adjust the TRVs on each radiator to increase the heat, he had a shit fit. I told him I was not driving 90+ miles each way when the heating was on and the remedy was simple (It had been very warm earlier in the day). Turns out the "infant" was turning one year old during their stay.
My white towels have been covered in shit and engine oil.
The toilets have been left full of shit.
I once found a turd inside the cardboard tube of a toilet roll and the toilet roll put back on the holder.
The behaviour and sense of entitlement has deteriorated since lockdown.
Fortunately, the lovely, respectful guests do outnumber the bad ones, you just remember the bad ones.

Sunnysidegold · 26/07/2022 12:50

I'm on holiday at the moment, thought not in the UK and I was so embarrassed at how our plane was left. It was a five hour flight and there were people wandering up and down the aisle in their bare feet, shouting up and down the plane to other members of their group. Kicking off when asked to move from the emergency exit seats which you had to pay extra for. Towards the end of the flight, the cabin crew announced that they had a quick turnaround for the plane flying home so could we please pass our rubbish to the cabin crew as their came past with a bin bag. When we got off the plane you could see litter everywhere, crunched up Pringles, sweet wrappers, used tissues etc.

Buggersticks · 26/07/2022 12:53

Omg...that last one with the bloke blocking the road...wtf?! I'd have lost the top of my head completely 🤬

MsTSwift · 26/07/2022 12:55

I live in a tourist city I haven’t seen this. Most tourists are lovely and I appreciate living somewhere that people from all over the world want to visit.

There’s a pretty hamlet just outside the city that lots walked round after the lock downs. The pathetic locals put arsey signs in their front gardens and huffed about - but they are more than happy to come and park in our city roads to visit the shops / cinema / restaurants etc! Utter hypocrites.

upthem5 · 26/07/2022 12:58

Cognacsoft · 26/07/2022 12:15

We visited Cornwall 10 years ago and saved
St Ives for our last day as everyone raved about it.
We arrived at 9 and left at 10.30.
It's pretty and full of art galleries.
Same with Collioure in SW France.

For me neither place was worth the difficult and expensive parking and the very expensive cafes and shops.
I would probably return out of season.

I live near St Ives and I’ve only been in the town centre once in all my life (mid 30s)

I don’t see the appeal nor the point. And it made me feel claustrophobic!

Lovemusic33 · 26/07/2022 12:59

I live in a touristy area and spent my late teens/early 20’s working in hospitality, I received a lot of abuse from strangers, I can imagine it’s even worse now than it was then. We tend to go on holiday in non touristy areas to get away from the craziness here in the summer. We live in a lovely area but it’s impossible to go anywhere in the summer without seeing and hearing tourists acting like twats.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 26/07/2022 13:01

mam0918 · 26/07/2022 11:01

no I have to agree with the other poster, nothing in what YOU posted indicates any kind of rudeness from him (he asked not demanded and said 'would you mind' which is acceptbly polite phrasing, you where rude back) but occupying a large table needed by a large party for 2 people when smaller ones are availible is always rude.

There were hardly any other tables available! And all these tables were the same size - none was smaller or bigger.

He just wanted me off one of the tables so he could push two together.

MikeWozniaksMoustache · 26/07/2022 13:08

I don’t think this is just limited to holiday makers and tourists, it’s people in general. Crazy inconsiderate arseholes are everywhere atm. Had an argument with a woman on the bus who wouldn’t move out of the pushchair bit despite 2 pushchairs (me and another lady) trying to get on. Loads of seats, the priority seats were also available if she were disabled / needed them, but she was just twat. It seems like since covid people have festered and turned into entitled arseholes.

JudgeJ · 26/07/2022 13:12

SummerLobelia · 26/07/2022 11:36

DH broke his coillarbone and ankle very badly a few years back when a tourist walked backwards while taking a photo and pushing him into the road. (he fell off the kerb and landed awkwardly). No apologies. No attempt to help him, they just walked off. It took a bus driver to stop and call the ambulance.

That was years ago though, and I am just sharing for no good reason. :)

According to the DM online a young man was killed when he got out of a helicopter and walked into the rotors as he was taking the inevitable selfie, apparently his parents were on another helicopter that had landed at the same time.

DoDisDenDoDat · 26/07/2022 13:17

My 19 year old son has a summer job working in a touristy pub. A couple of weekends ago he was serving in the beer garden and started getting abuse from a drunk customer complaining about some of the specials on the specials board being no longer available (it was quite late in the day, so some things had ran out and had been crossed through). He ended up right in my sons face, ranting about how it just wasn't good enough and what was he going to do about it. He was asked politely to step back but carried on - as my son moved backwards, the drunk tourist took a swing at him. Not a good shot as it just grazed past my sons ear. The customer looked a bit confused as he found himself laying in the flower bed a few seconds later, with a sore chin and gentle applause from other customers ringing in his ears. My son said he only gave him a "gentle tap" in self defence. Customer was quickly dragged up by his friends and left.

Moral of the story - don't mess with a 6 foot tall and 6 foot wide rugby prop. On the plus side, my son said the tips that day were great!

vera99 · 26/07/2022 13:18

Rundown Llanberis at the foot of Snowdon because militant Welsh nationalists have made any incomers unwelcome and would rather the town rotted than have some of the outsiders come in and become part of the community. For Sale signs only in welsh and previously vandalising, burning down holiday lets.

Eunorition · 26/07/2022 13:18

What's that got to do with cheeky tourists? He shouldn't have been cleared to leave the helicopter while the blades were spinning. That's a tragic accident, not a tale of a rude person.

Eunorition · 26/07/2022 13:19

vera99 · 26/07/2022 13:18

Rundown Llanberis at the foot of Snowdon because militant Welsh nationalists have made any incomers unwelcome and would rather the town rotted than have some of the outsiders come in and become part of the community. For Sale signs only in welsh and previously vandalising, burning down holiday lets.

Eh, can't blame them though.

RunningAlong · 26/07/2022 13:21

Its been like this for years lol I've been away from tourism for 6 years but I've plenty of stories like this.

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