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To think if you don't let people join stationary traffic you're a dick.

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WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:29

I hate drivers who do this, I don't get why you'd be a dick for the sake of saving yourself 1 second.

Sat in stationary or slow moving traffic, if there is someone waiting on a side road to join I would always let them in, I can't go anywhere and I need to leave a gap for people in the opposite direction wanting to go up that road anyway so why not? After they'd gone, id move up and I imagine the person behind me would then let the next person in if anymore were waiting and so on...

Yet I see so many drivers speeding up on purpose if they see someone trying to join or not letting cars in when they can't go anywhere anyway. What's the point of being a cunt? It saves about 1 second of your journey!

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Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:33

Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

I get you, I'm talking about side roads though, like trying to join a main road from a separate side road. I think it's so cuntish not to let people in when you're literally just sat in traffic anyway and will likely end up about 1 second in front of them!

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ChuckItBucket · 25/07/2022 08:34

Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

also called merging in turn and the correct way for traffic to queue when it’s two lanes into one

just because you’ve sat in traffic doesn’t mean they’re doing anything wrong

Purplepeople12 · 25/07/2022 08:35

Depends. If they're on a joining road/junction then yes, I'd like to think each driver on the road let's the next one in. However, if the lanes are merging, and we've all had notice from 600 yards back, and you get the odd tosser who decides they're going to fly up the inside and push in then NO, I'd be the c*£% NOT letting them in - they can bloody queue like the rest of us!!!!

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:35

I saw a woman do it this morning. Left a gap so people in the opposite direction could go up the side road and then when a car from the side road tried to come out (bearing in mind we couldn't go anywhere as we were all sat in traffic!), she sped up and closed the gap on purpose also blocking anyone else from being able to go up the side road. All for the sake of just not letting someone out. I see it quite a lot and never understand the pettiness.

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WingBingo · 25/07/2022 08:35

Ironic! The Highway Code doesn’t stipulate you let other drivers out of a side road, but it does say you should merge in turn

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:36

If they're on a joining road/junction then yes, I'd like to think each driver on the road let's the next one in

Yes this is what I'm talking about. I agree about the lanes merging. That one is annoying!

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MintJulia · 25/07/2022 08:36

To be fair, the driver in the side road does not have right of way, so what you are suggesting is contrary to the Highway Code. You can't rewrite the rules of the road in your head and then expect other people to adhere to them. 😊

But yes, I normally let people out.

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:37

WingBingo · 25/07/2022 08:35

Ironic! The Highway Code doesn’t stipulate you let other drivers out of a side road, but it does say you should merge in turn

I appreciate you may not have to but what does it gain you not doing so if you're sat in traffic? It just seems like being a twat for the sake of it.

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yonce · 25/07/2022 08:37

It depends on speed - in very very slow traffic or stationary, of course! Not in a regular speed flow of traffic, it's against the Highway Code I think.

Merge in turn is another issue that grinds my gears - people going into one lane 1mile before they merge then tutting as people use the merge lane correctly need to be rounded up (I'm looking at you PP)

SweetSakura · 25/07/2022 08:37

Largely agree with you. However sometimes you let one car filter and then a bunch more cars filter their way in.

Plus there are side roads near me that are used as rat runs to try and avoid sitting in the main traffic jam, so I can see why people are less keen to let cars in from those (annoying as I actually have to go down one of those roads!)

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:38

MintJulia · 25/07/2022 08:36

To be fair, the driver in the side road does not have right of way, so what you are suggesting is contrary to the Highway Code. You can't rewrite the rules of the road in your head and then expect other people to adhere to them. 😊

But yes, I normally let people out.

I do understand that. I just think it's what most humans with some basic consideration for others would probably do.

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GrumpyPanda · 25/07/2022 08:38

Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

You do realize that's the correct way to merge? Both lanes go all the way up, then do a zipper merge. People driving like you is what creates traffic jams.

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:39

It depends on speed - in very very slow traffic or stationary, of course! Not in a regular speed flow of traffic, it's against the Highway Code I think.

It's very slow crawling traffic and we were literally stationary when I saw this! So petty.

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Tippexy · 25/07/2022 08:39

Cunts are amazing things, they provide pleasure and can do some pretty amazing things. Why do you use the word as an insult?

RoseAndRose · 25/07/2022 08:39

It depends on the relative size and rate of movement of the queuing traffic.

You'll ger let out when those on the carriageway think is 'fair', which might not be the instant you arrive at the intersection, if the traffic has already been queueing for 40 mins to reach that junction, and expects at least the same again. You won't be left high and dry for 40 mins, though!

Even though it's not just the seconds for your car that matter, but for every car joining the queue at that point. Because that's making every car behind the turning in the main queue that bit later, and it adds up.

Grumpsy · 25/07/2022 08:40

ChuckItBucket · 25/07/2022 08:34

also called merging in turn and the correct way for traffic to queue when it’s two lanes into one

just because you’ve sat in traffic doesn’t mean they’re doing anything wrong

This.

people who insist on sitting in one lane make the traffic go back far further than it would if everyone just used both lanes

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 25/07/2022 08:41

I agree with you about side roads, OP, and I understand how merging in turn works. What I hate, and refuse to make room for, are those drivers who use the wrong lane on a roundabout so that they can jump the queue for an exit off that roundabout - and then try to bully their way off at the queued-for exit by aggressive driving. They’re the twats that shouldn’t be allowed on the road.

LimesandClementines · 25/07/2022 08:44

Purplepeople12 · 25/07/2022 08:35

Depends. If they're on a joining road/junction then yes, I'd like to think each driver on the road let's the next one in. However, if the lanes are merging, and we've all had notice from 600 yards back, and you get the odd tosser who decides they're going to fly up the inside and push in then NO, I'd be the c*£% NOT letting them in - they can bloody queue like the rest of us!!!!

Well if everyone used up those 600 yards of the lane that is closing there would be less of a queue...people aren't dicks for using an OPEN lane. I suggest you brush up on merging in turn from the Highway Code.

JaninaDuszejko · 25/07/2022 08:46

Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

If you merge into a single lane before you have to (e.g. if there are roadworks and signs saying 'merge in 800 yds' and you merge immediately) then you are making the queue longer so you are being the dick. I always drive down the free lane when people do that and merge at the appropriate point, I shouldn't have to pay for people's collective stupidity.

As far as letting people out of side roads it depends how busy it is, a single car absolutely, but I'm not going to sit there while a stream of cars pull out, when both roads are busy they need to merge car by car and if someone doesn't let you merge to save a second it has only cost you a second.

MustdrinkmoreH2O · 25/07/2022 08:47

Because people are assholes.

There are lots of socially inept people on mumsnet too OP so they’ll probably be the ones who do it and see nothing wrong with it.

no it’s not Highway Code and holding open doors for people isn’t the law but we still do it because it’s nice and costs nothing.

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:48

As far as letting people out of side roads it depends how busy it is, a single car absolutely, but I'm not going to sit there while a stream of cars pull out, when both roads are busy they need to merge car by car and if someone doesn't let you merge to save a second it has only cost you a second.

Well yes this is what I would expect most normal people would do one car let's one car out then moves up, the car behind let's another out and so on... I don't expect people to sit there whilst a stream of cars come out but not letting one car out whilst you're stationary anyway is petty to the extreme imo.

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WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:49

no it’s not Highway Code and holding open doors for people isn’t the law but we still do it because it’s nice and costs nothing

Precisely.

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DangerouslyBored · 25/07/2022 08:49

Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

You really need to read and absorb the Highway Code 🤦🏻‍♀️

imnottoofussed · 25/07/2022 08:50

I'd say it depends as I've been in queuing traffic for ages wondering what's going on, then to discover that every other car ahead was letting someone else out of a side road, so no wonder everyone at the back was still sat in the same place 20 minutes later.