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To think if you don't let people join stationary traffic you're a dick.

230 replies

WhyBeADick · 25/07/2022 08:29

I hate drivers who do this, I don't get why you'd be a dick for the sake of saving yourself 1 second.

Sat in stationary or slow moving traffic, if there is someone waiting on a side road to join I would always let them in, I can't go anywhere and I need to leave a gap for people in the opposite direction wanting to go up that road anyway so why not? After they'd gone, id move up and I imagine the person behind me would then let the next person in if anymore were waiting and so on...

Yet I see so many drivers speeding up on purpose if they see someone trying to join or not letting cars in when they can't go anywhere anyway. What's the point of being a cunt? It saves about 1 second of your journey!

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Doingmybest12 · 25/07/2022 09:22

I usually take a turn to let someone out of a side road but if the side road person is forcing their way in rudely I might close the gap especially if they haven't been queuing on their side. I find if I hang back politely if I am the side road person I am usually invited to join and I say thank you.

Glitteratitar · 25/07/2022 09:24

Dewsberry · 25/07/2022 09:14

Depends on the circumstances. You're not just holding yourself up by 1 second, you are delaying every single person behind you in the queue. There's a balance between being considerate to the (usually tiny) group of cars trying to join and the (sometimes massive) queue of people behind you. If there are more cars joining from side roads than exiting the front of the queue then the people at the back don't move. At all.

I work on a big industrial estate with lots of people trying to join a slow moving queue at rush hour. I work in the office right at the back and it can take up to an hour to get out of the estate because of all the people letting "just one person" in over and over again in front of us. There's nothing cuntish about considering the impact on all the people behind you as well as the person in your eyeline.

Exactly this. Rather than you being inconsiderate for not wanting to let everyone out, people are being inconsiderate to you.

SheilaWilde · 25/07/2022 09:25

MERGE IN TURN AT THE POINT OF CLOSURE.

This is how you merge in slow moving traffic, ie when a lane is closing. At fast speeds, when a lane is closing, it is best to get over at your earliest opportunity.

To think if you don't let people join stationary traffic you're a dick.
wedonttalkaboutyouno · 25/07/2022 09:28

yonce · 25/07/2022 08:37

It depends on speed - in very very slow traffic or stationary, of course! Not in a regular speed flow of traffic, it's against the Highway Code I think.

Merge in turn is another issue that grinds my gears - people going into one lane 1mile before they merge then tutting as people use the merge lane correctly need to be rounded up (I'm looking at you PP)

Exactly this! I hate people that get grouchy about people merging correctly, when they’ve decided to be a martyr and join a queue a mile back.

Glitteratitar · 25/07/2022 09:29

Mayorquimby2 · 25/07/2022 09:22

People getting in a rage because they don't understand the fundamentals of driving and think that because they've arbitrarily decided to merge 2 miles ahead of where they're supposed to is one of life's little pleasures.

Up there with people who think they can reserve spaces on pubic roads because they happen to live near that pubic space and can't fathom why strangers won't accept their dreamed up rules.

This! People really can be so thick.

Mayorquimby2 · 25/07/2022 09:30

Absolutely agree on the cuntishness of people pushing up to stop people coming out of side roads to join the traffic, do pointless

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 25/07/2022 09:34

Fine in theory , but there's a road I drive up , there's a lot of pedestrian crossings , a Railway station, side strets an yellow box junctions

If I let one out from the side , I can 100% bet another will follow
I need to leave a gap to allow me to get over the YBJ
I know the traffic will be stopped because theres a crossing at the station

I sometimes have to mouth "NO" and put my flat palm up to a driver who is going to pile in front of me (after three have already done so )

Sigh

FloydPepper · 25/07/2022 09:35

Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

Never heard of “merge in turn” then

youre supposed to queue in both lanes right to the merge point. A lot of people don’t understand this

Manekinek0 · 25/07/2022 09:35

Driving threads always make me think that we should have to resit a driving test periodically.

Yes you should let traffic merge if there are two lanes and you should be using all lanes available. The amount of times I've been stuck at a local roundabout because there are idiots who all sit in the left lane and block the entire roundabout is unreal.

And don't get me started on the "it's a limit not a target" brigade. So many of you would fail your test. If you're not confident driving up to the speed limit when it's clear and safe then please book yourselves in for a pass plus course.

latetothefisting · 25/07/2022 09:38

It depends though...a car park by me is notorious for being impossible to escape because due to traffic lights only about 5 cars can go per turn leading to a long snake of cars going all round the car park and multiple more people trying to join them at each side avenue.

If you are on the main road out and let someone queuing at the side roads in front of you thats great for them and as you say you've only let one person out so -but for the person who is 10th in the main queue behind you if every first person lets one person out they suddenly become 20th in the queue. And there are enough people always trying to get out the first few exits that the people who have joined the queue in the back never get to go anywhere!

Freckledot · 25/07/2022 09:38

In some countries it’s called the zipper merge and there are signs for it, is it not the same in the UK?

Pleiades2020 · 25/07/2022 09:38

Rayn22 · 25/07/2022 08:31

I would on a side road but not if they are just pushing in when the road merges into one. They have come speeding down the outer lane and want to push in! No way! Why is their journey more important than mine they don't have to sit in traffic!

There was a huge thread on exactly this topic a few weeks ago. Consensus seemed to be at slow speeds use both lanes then merge at the end to ease congestion. At high (40 plus) merge earlier.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4585136-to-say-this-sign-does-not-mean-move-over-now

LimesandClementines · 25/07/2022 09:39

Mayorquimby2 · 25/07/2022 09:22

People getting in a rage because they don't understand the fundamentals of driving and think that because they've arbitrarily decided to merge 2 miles ahead of where they're supposed to is one of life's little pleasures.

Up there with people who think they can reserve spaces on pubic roads because they happen to live near that pubic space and can't fathom why strangers won't accept their dreamed up rules.

I must admit it does make me laugh seeing people get angry about people using merge in turn correctly, I'm the one that's saved 20 minutes of queuing by using the open lane until the end whilst they just sat there like a sheep...

FloydPepper · 25/07/2022 09:40

No comment from OP on all the people pointing out her error when it comes to merge in turn?..

starfishmummy · 25/07/2022 09:41

I wish h more places would have the "merge in turn" signs I very seen in some places where two lanes go into one. Of course they shouldn't need to donthis, and not everyone takes notice but they do seem to help.

Pleiades2020 · 25/07/2022 09:41

But in terms of not letting people in at a junction when traffic is stopped that's just mean.

Bluevelvetsofa · 25/07/2022 09:41

The roundabout blocking is really annoying. If your exit is blocked by stationary traffic, all you’re doing is preventing traffic flow at exits that otherwise could move.

Cantanka · 25/07/2022 09:41

yonce · 25/07/2022 08:37

It depends on speed - in very very slow traffic or stationary, of course! Not in a regular speed flow of traffic, it's against the Highway Code I think.

Merge in turn is another issue that grinds my gears - people going into one lane 1mile before they merge then tutting as people use the merge lane correctly need to be rounded up (I'm looking at you PP)

It’s fine for merge in turn, but I am always furious when there is a queue to turn, and people don’t join that queue but power up the other lane to go straight on then try to cut in to the queue at the last minute. AND PEOPLE ALWAYS LET THEM. Why?!

JustLyra · 25/07/2022 09:42

Freckledot · 25/07/2022 09:38

In some countries it’s called the zipper merge and there are signs for it, is it not the same in the UK?

It’s exactly the same. There are just a lot of people who think, somewhat ironically given their rantings about people “rudely whooshing up the other lane”, that the Highway Code doesn’t apply to them and that because they’ve decided to create a ridiculous queue everyone should join them.

Forestgate · 25/07/2022 09:42

Generally agree but currently have a baby who absolutely hates being in the car and he screams blue murder the entire time. Without fail. It's awful. So every second extra adds up and so am probably driving like a dick temporarily

shiningstar2 · 25/07/2022 09:43

I will happily let one person out of a side street or anywhere else. My problem comes if there is a whole row of traffic waiting there as I can never stop the flow and it's me any the other drivers behind me who end up stuck 🤔 Maybe I'm just not assertive enough and too polite in these circumstances. Maybe I'm just a rubbish driver🤔

Cantanka · 25/07/2022 09:44

If you are on the main road out and let someone queuing at the side roads in front of you thats great for them and as you say you've only let one person out so -but for the person who is 10th in the main queue behind you if every first person lets one person out they suddenly become 20th in the queue. And there are enough people always trying to get out the first few exits that the people who have joined the queue in the back never get to go anywhere

this is the problem. Also if there are 5 side roads in the stretch of traffic, and everyone at each of them let’s someone in, the queue just doesn’t move for people at the back of the main queue.

bluegardenflowers · 25/07/2022 09:44

No I constantly let other drivers in from side roads, and so do most of the people I see driving. I'm happy for cars to merge if they haven't been dicks. I won't if I see a car steaming up the southbound (empty) slip road then try to merge into the front of the northbound slip road (massive queue) because that's taking the piss. If it's safe I will stop for kids to cross as out local school has lost it's crossing patrol. I'm super careful there though as I know not everyone will stop.

Mardyface · 25/07/2022 09:44

@Cantanka it's defensive driving to let them in isn't it. No dispute they are unbelievably rude and a twat but that also makes them dangerous. Better to let them go than have an accident occur.

LimesandClementines · 25/07/2022 09:45

Freckledot · 25/07/2022 09:38

In some countries it’s called the zipper merge and there are signs for it, is it not the same in the UK?

In recent months I have seen a few signs like this so hopefully the message will start getting across to people, being 'polite' is only causing you to sit in traffic (and causing more traffic for everyone else, the exact opposite of considerate).

To think if you don't let people join stationary traffic you're a dick.