To want to believe in life after death

[Jezebell]

Part of me really wants to believe in this. Part of me is cynical. I’m still grieving but comforted a little by hearing anecdotes where people’s lost loved ones visit somehow, in any form… Can anyone give any personal stories where they feel this might have happened?

No way can you explain the clock. Me and my husband were in the room when it literally flew across the room. We were both sitting on the sofa nowhere near the sideboard the clock was on. We had been sitting there for at least 15 minutes without moving.

I don't need to explain it. I'm not making any extraordinary claims about life after death. My issue is that believers will attribute this sort of thing to 'woo' despite that being contrary to everything we understand about the universe, despite there not being a shred of evidence to suggest any such thing exists, and despite there being a multitude of far more plausible explanations available. That's completely illogical and requires the suspension of basic common sense. Not something I'm willing to indulge in. You are making the claim of something paranormal afoot, not me.

You don't believe and that is fine but don't try and belittle my story. As I said, it never happened before and has not happened since but did happen more than once. The clock wasn't close to the sideboard as though it had fallen but quite a distance from it.

I'm not attempting to 'belittle' anything. As I said, I don't doubt your clock moved, There's no reason for me to doubt that.

There was also a strange incident with our outside meter cupboard but I am not going to tell the story so that you can scoff and claim I am fabricating or imagining it

Suit yourself. I'm still entirely comfortable that there's no such thing as the afterlife, paranormal, spirits etc. If your meter cupboard story somehow proves the existence of the afterlife beyond all reasonable doubt, I'm all ears though.

I have seen my mum's resident ghost a number of times and can often feel her presence, I have also seen my uncle, and he will give off such a huge presence. He has also appeared in a number of dreams warning me about things so yes, I believe that there is some way that passed souls can communicate with us.

My dad had cancer and before he passed, I dreamt I was sat in our favourite coffee shop looking out the window. I saw him and my brother walking side by side towards the shop. My dad looked happy and healthy (like he did pre chemo). He waved at me before my brother stopped to join us, but my dad kept walking on. I somehow knew he couldn’t verbally communicate with me through the glass. He then disappeared out of sight. I woke up and thought he passed. I rang my mum who said he was sleeping. Shortly after, he was diagnosed as terminal and there was nothing they could do. I knew it was coming. My friend said that maybe it was a sign he’d be healed but I knew that wasn’t what the dream meant. On the night he died, I was looking out my kitchen window at a stunning sunset. I felt so peaceful despite my dad being at a hospice. I also felt strangely grateful but I didn’t know why. My mum then rang to tell me that dad didn’t have long left and they’d moved him to a room where he could see the sunset. He died that night.

After he died, I dreamt I was a toddler sitting in this bright pink room. My dad was there and he looked so young and healthy. It was the most vivid dream I’ve ever had.

Another one …

I once had a really creepy conversation with my baby brother who was about four at the time. He told me he’s happy with this family and “this mummy” because his last one wasn’t very nice and locked him in a dungeon (wtf).

OMG that's so weird and creepy!!! It could have been a dream/nightmare of course. Or.....................

@mydogisthebest don't try and justify yourself to the poo-pooers. People don't wanna believe and wanna scoff?!!! Let them. It doesn't change what you experienced. And I believe every word you say ... 😘

I didn’t read into it too much as it could’ve been a nightmare but I’ve never forgotten that conversation. It was so weird! He sounded so sincere as well 😮

Just annoys me. They don't believe and that is fine but they have to scoff at stories and literally call people liars.

My DH never believed in ghosts, life after death etc but he now says there has to be something. He honestly tried to think of every reason why the clock could have moved but he just couldn't. When the clock literally threw itself off with us sitting in the room he was just gobsmacked

@XDownwiththissortofthingX so how did my clock move? Not just move, not just topple off the sideboard but literally looked as though it was being thrown. You can't explain it and you know you can't.

Believe me my DH tried to find every plausible reason for the clock moving and just couldn't.

It certainly did not happen because I wanted it to. At no time did I think I needed a sign from my parents. Just didn't even give it a thought. The first time it happened I also was trying to think of reasons it could have happened and more or less dismissed it as just an odd occurrence. Not so much the second time or third but the last time when it happened with me and DH in the room there was absolutely no logical explanation.

Sad really that you are so narrow minded and you "know" there is no such thing as life after death. No one knows that for sure and you must be pretty arrogant to think you do know absolutely.

I like that we do not know or understand the full extent of “what’s next”. It cannot be proven, nor can it be irrefutably denied.

FWIW, I have always found comfort in the small things that you could consider “signs” - seeing robins etc that remind me of my loved ones. Seeing them prompts the memory, which I can smile at.

It is important to me that I keep their memories alive, and I’ve done that well. My DC talk of them even though they never met them. Stories get passed down, and that is so special.

I definitely think there is more to this life than we know. I'm not saying pearly gates and fluffy clouds in heaven but yes something - too much weird unexplained stuff happened to me for there to be any other explanation.

I’m so sorry for everyone on here that has lost loved ones, it is a pain like no other.
My Mum had an incurable illness and towards the last few days of her life she would suddenly sit upright in bed and stare at the wall transfixed - when I asked what she was staring at she would just say ‘my things’ even though there was nothing there. On the night she died my sister suddenly turned and faced the wall where my Mum used to stare at (my sister didn’t know about the wall staring) my sister was ashen and perfectly still, when I finally managed to get my sister to stop staring I asked her what she was staring at and she replied “an angel”. Mum died about 20 minutes later.
2 years after my Mum died my younger brother came to visit me and throughout the visit a strange feeling overwhelmed me and I kept thinking to myself that my brother didn’t belong in this world, that he was too good for this world. When he left I stood on the doorstep waving to him and I had such a strong feeling that I wouldn’t see him again, it was overwhelming. He died the following day. A few months later I was sorting my brothers things out at my house and all that was left in the room was an antique wooden chair which he loved and his biking boots which I didn’t know what to do with, everything else had been put away or given away to family. The chair and boots were against the wall with boots on the floor when I left to go to the cemetery with my husband. At the cemetery I was distraught with grief and my husband addressed my brothers grave and said to him “mate look how upset your sister is, please give her a sign that you are ok”. When we got home I went straight upstairs as I knew what I wanted to do with the antique chair and the biking boots and when I went into the room the chair was in the middle of the empty room with the boots on top of the seat - they had definitely moved! For me this was the sign I needed to know that he was ok, the chair and boots had definitely moved and nobody had been in the house as nobody else had keys.
For me, I have to believe that there is a heaven - I have to believe that I get to see my Mum and brother again

XDownwiththissortofthingX Please ignore anybody who scoffs at your experiences, I totally believe that this was your loved one. Those that don’t believe are just jealous and have no right to belittle, how nasty!

@mydogisthebest you really don't need to justify yourself to people who have not had the kind of experiences you have. They are the poorer for them. There is a world beyond our understanding... science hasn't got there yet and there may not be irrefutable proof of life after death - but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Personally think it's very arrogant and narrow minded to believe that we are the most important things in the universe for the time we tread this earth and there is no reason for our being here beyond that. That makes us 'God' whatever God is... and all we seem to have done is f*ck it up!

I would never scoff or belittle anyone’s beliefs but for me I don’t believe in an afterlife or whatever you choose to call it, just as I don’t believe in God or the realms of religious stuff I was beset with / indoctrinated with during my childhood. Religion for me is the reason for far too much hatred, wars and domination.
I have witnessed things I can’t rationalise, I do think there are ‘ghosts’ but it’s the heaven, hell, purgatory and seeing everyone again that I have no belief in.

Sorry - I meant mydogisthebest

I don't believe in any sort of afterlife but have just been thinking if anything unusual has ever happened after the death of someone.

The only thing I can think of is when my Uncle died suddenly of a heart attack. Several hours after we found out, me and my Dad were sleeping on the living room floor after crying for hours. Suddenly the CD player turned itself on in the corner of the room and started playing really loudly.

Sends shivers down my spine thinking about that. It seems like a sign but then was it just some massive coincidence? It had never turned on on its own before and has never done since.

I'm still not sure I believe in anything though. My partner has lost quite a lot of family members and has never experienced anything odd after it.

It’s odd isn’t it, that some people have ‘experiences’ and others don’t. A friend’s mother was a firm believer in life after death and desperately wanted signs when she became a widow. In turn, when she herself died , her daughter has not received any visitations or signs.

@Chasingclouds100 That's lovely that your brother gave you a sign. As you say, the boots and chair could not have moved themselves.

This is AMAZING! THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting it xxx

I'm so glad you like it @medianewbie

@Willyoujustbequiet Please share some of your weird stuff!

@YanTanTetheraPetheraPimp What do you think ghosts might be, if you don’t believe in an afterlife ? No judgment here, just curious. Do you think that ghosts may be memories of energy ? Like a recording?

I very much believe in an afterlife. I will see my babies again and I will get to hold them close. I know this with every fibre of my being and have never doubted it once.

There isn't because it can't be proved. There are no answers to the questions like do I meet up with dead cat too and do I see my budgie again. What if I don't want to see my old aunt Ethel that I didn't like anyway.
How do we see people anyway we have no eyes and our brain is dead. Can we talk, do spirits talk, what do they do all day?
When does the spirit die or does it live forever, if it dies what happens then is that the end?
If the spirit dies where does it go?
Until these things can be proved it will all just remain hearsay.