Port of Dover Critical Incident

[AndreaC74]

Why are we blaming the french? they didn't vote for Brexit and aren't responsible for increasing/paying for extra capacity at the French border posts on UK soil.

Stamping passports is what happens to 3rd country nationals & that adds time, a lot of it, when dealing with 100s of '000s of passengers, plus having recently been to France, i ve seen UK people arguing with French officials because they don't want their passports stamped!

The UK seems incapable of organising anything at the moment, the numbers travelling across the channel is entirely predictable and delays we are now seeing were talked about pre 2016, i remember seeing the graphs on how long the queues would be for just a few seconds of delay for each passenger.... all Project Fear.

Why should the French taxpayers pay for more border officers at Dover? It's no skin off their noses if sweltering for hours in a queue you inflicted on yourselves. Why should they have to pick up the costs of the red tape you voted for?

interesting general comment but not sure what it has got to do with today’s events..

• if you're sweltering ...

@JaniieJones Yes there are, i ve been in them but not to this extent, an hour or two perhaps but now 6 to 12 hours.... Lorries have waits of days.

'Not your average thicko Sun reader, for sure'

'So, you at the back, yes you with the England flag & the red face, Can you tell me what has changed?'

Honestly, such bile and vitriol. Try #BeKind.

Staffing shortages on the french side. Watch the news.

Well I suppose you could blame them for not having decent enough border control to stop all and sundry getting into France in the first place.

As a bona fide French person, i'll be fucked if I pay more tax for border staff to sort out you guys shitting the bed by voting brexit.

Maybe more travellers should consider using Newhaven-Dieppe. There's only 3 sailings a day, but there's rarely a problem on the approach.

@JaniieJones Sky news are reporting French staff couldn't get to work because of the queues... keep up at the back... all booths now staffed, delays now will only be 6 hours... phew!

Have you worked out what has changed since 2019 yet? i'll give you a clue, begins with B

The French have done this way before Brexit, I remember them doing it 20 odd years ago, regularly
Brexit just gives them another reason to cause chaos

@Léighméleabhair No need for the attack. I have not indicated a leave or remain voting record. But your post makes no sense, can you possibly articulate what your point is?

My comment was that, at the end of the summer holidays there are always queues returning to the UK via Calais.

Quite right roo. If only the French were quite so good at stopping the people traffickers sending poor vulnerable refugees on treacherous sea crossings leaving France as they are at causing massive delays on folk legally entering their country.

Nothing to do with brexit and everything to do with the French not turning up for work and being bloody difficult as per usual.

Every border in the world outside the EU is manned and they manage perfectly well every single day!
Nothing new.

Only this will backfire as people will choose to go elsewhere in the future, no one will want to go there and endure spiteful, fickle behaviour - and France is already heading for a deep recession so rather stupid and self sabotaging in my view.

@AuxArmesCitoyens

Your point is a valid one and I think (most) people on this thread would agree with you. What boils people's piss is that half the country DIDN'T vote for Brexit; as @Léighméleabhair previously posted, it wasn't a democratic vote, so half of us have been shafted by a small majority. And most of those who did vote to leave the EU didn't really understand what they were doing, to be quite frank. They were sold a load of utter tripe by a self-serving Govt. with no moral compass and they were ill-educated to boot.

That's not your problem, of course. But it explains the division so apparent on this thread and the desire by many to join the "I didn't vote for this shit" queue at customs

Going into France at the start of your holiday you are a foreign national entering a foreign country. Coming home from your holiday you are a British citizen returning to Britain. The checks involved won't be the same each way.

Well done 👏🏻 congratulations for starting another moronic brexit thread.

It has been fully explained by the ferry company, border control AND the police that only 50% of the French desks were open - I wonder why that could be……despite a very carefully considered plan to ensure everything was open for today.

If your holiday is as shoddy as your treatment at the borders then you really are in for a treat!!!!!!
When you are taking your well earned holiday money to a place that displays such utter disdain for you perhaps your reconsider your views eventually, good luck is all I can say. Rather you than me!!!!!!!

'Sky news are reporting French staff couldn't get to work because of the queues... keep up at the back... all booths now staffed, delays now will only be 6 hours... phew!'

See! Many, many people have explained this. Now all booths are staffed yayy they of course will have to clear a backlog. Perhaps tomorrow they'll have their staffing sorted out. And unclench..

They are the same each way. Passport control on both sides exactly the same

@Festoonlights Then why were they all open this morning? You lot really do lap up the lies don't you?

Who's looking forwards to when they start taking everyone's finger prints? I wonder what the UK authorities are doing to prepare? Are the massive expansions to the port nearly complete? It's only a few months away now, so I assume the buildings and carparks have been built and the staff recruited and trained ...

If you're so keen on democracy (which many of you don't seem to understand) why would you want to be in the EU?

the fact that people that have chosen to live outside of the uk didn't get a vote does not invalidate the result. Thank goodness they didn't. They have no skin in the game.

The whining in mumsnet about brexut is unreal. Its all about how your lives were perfectly nice before and are now worse. Its not all about you, and it's not all about now. I don't think you have a clue of the worst consequnces of being controlled by the EU. greece were absolutely shafted by it.

It's happened. Now we need to get on with managing the impacts.

Every border in the world outside the EU is manned and they manage perfectly well every single day!

really? id disagree with many in USA and Rome for starters

So Britsh border officers will be checking to see if a British citizen needs a visa to enter then will they? Righty oh

No one cares about brexit - it’s been and gone! On either side of the channel.
Only the little midget Macron is still getting his silk panties in a twist because the free money is no longer pouring in! Most people in real life are quite content with how it worked out - and hey look the world 🌎 is still turning and the sun still shines

France is notorious for causing - or contributing to - delays or chaos during holiday periods. Air traffic controllers, railways, it’s the usual sort of thing we’ve heard about - or experienced personally - for years.

As for refugees crossing the channel in dangerous small inflatables, I’m not remotely surprised France isn’t busting a gut to stop them. They don’t want them.