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To ask if this scoffing at the concern over the heatwave have changed their minds yet?

235 replies

DeadbeatYoda · 19/07/2022 18:17

Just that really. I've just watched the news. The houses burning, the grass fires, the rail infrastructure buckling. Record temperatures in 29 locations today. Several areas exceeding 40 degrees. Do you still think it's 'hysteria' to take it seriously?

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CPL593H · 19/07/2022 22:15

For what it's worth, my Nan's rehydration remedy (she was born in in the 1890s) was a pint of cooled boiled water with a couple of heaped teaspoons of sugar and half a teaspoon of salt stirred in (probably doesn't need to be boiled if you are using it for anything other than an upset tum). A doctor once told me that this was definitely on the right track, especially in the absence of anything else.

It was one of her few "sovereign remedies" that didn't contain alcohol Grin

tootiredtoocare · 19/07/2022 22:17

Having a 'heatwave special' on Channel 4 news was a bit OTT, I thought.

bellac11 · 19/07/2022 22:18

CPL593H · 19/07/2022 22:15

For what it's worth, my Nan's rehydration remedy (she was born in in the 1890s) was a pint of cooled boiled water with a couple of heaped teaspoons of sugar and half a teaspoon of salt stirred in (probably doesn't need to be boiled if you are using it for anything other than an upset tum). A doctor once told me that this was definitely on the right track, especially in the absence of anything else.

It was one of her few "sovereign remedies" that didn't contain alcohol Grin

Sugar is important, there is a reason that many countries on the Indian subcontinent eat sugar laden treats and drinks. In African countries, particularly those with desert connections they load up their mint teas with tons of sugar, it helps with the sweating apparently. Not sure how but it seems to work.

Glencanto · 19/07/2022 22:21

Hbh17 · 19/07/2022 22:12

Yes, it has been hot, but I haven't changed my mind and the media reaction was completely unnecessary and hysterical - just as it was in the pandemic. It is very sad to think that serious and responsible journalism seems to be a thing of the past.

You know, that whole pandemic thing was actually quite a big deal that significantly affected most of the world and will continue to do so for years to come.

I feel like there’s a class of people these days who review any sort of reporting of negative world events as ‘hysteria’.

Bigmouthshouthotair · 19/07/2022 22:23

I feel like there’s a class of people these days who review any sort of reporting of negative world events as ‘hysteria’.

Aswellas denying actual facts

Sweatinglikeabitch · 19/07/2022 22:26

That's not what people were panicking about though. It was all "it's going to be unbearable, check on your elderly neighbours, they're going to die from heatstroke! We're all going to do! How will we ever keep cool?! The schools need to close! Nobody go outside! OMG I saw a child outside, what evil irresponsible parents!" It was really too much and I don't think I really saw anybody saying they were concerned about forest fires or rail infrastructure. Just themselves being uncomfortable. Obviously there was going to be forest fires, most likely caused, as usual, by some thicko having a bbq on the dry leaf litter.

suzyscat · 19/07/2022 22:27

I upped my family's salt intake this week. Some crisps, olives, seed mixes etc and had a free for all on juice, cordial and ice tea.

I did keep my children off school, though I don't think it was "hysterical" or even an "overreaction." Their school is south facing with massive windows. Last week temperatures inside hit 40° in some rooms and 3 children were off with heatstroke.

They were closing early anyway but in the hottest part of the day here and I didn't want to be waking them around then. I have been informed there was no teaching and the children watched TV for most of the morning and a fair few came out in tears at early pick up. At home we did cooking, art, reading & writing. It's the last couple of days of term, it felt like the right decision for us, though i appreciate not everyone has the same flexibility with work.

What's that quote "Imagine thinking you're tougher than the sun?" We've had a lovely couple of days and with a couple of fans and plenty of drinks and grazing on picnic food have passed it in relative comfort.

Sorry not a response to OP but to a variety of PPs.

Glencanto · 19/07/2022 22:29

Sweatinglikeabitch · 19/07/2022 22:26

That's not what people were panicking about though. It was all "it's going to be unbearable, check on your elderly neighbours, they're going to die from heatstroke! We're all going to do! How will we ever keep cool?! The schools need to close! Nobody go outside! OMG I saw a child outside, what evil irresponsible parents!" It was really too much and I don't think I really saw anybody saying they were concerned about forest fires or rail infrastructure. Just themselves being uncomfortable. Obviously there was going to be forest fires, most likely caused, as usual, by some thicko having a bbq on the dry leaf litter.

The thickos view any sort of discussion about current events, especially talk of sensible precautions, as ‘hysteria’.

I think it’s because they find anything outside of the status quo to be very triggering.

onlythreenow · 19/07/2022 22:30

Well they happen every year here too. We get quite a few locally. You just don't hear about
This is different.

What is different about it?

Well, we had a similar heatwave for about 3 days in BC last year, and about 650 died. We have a fraction of the UK’s population.
So hundreds, or even thousands, dying is well within the scope of possible outcomes for the UK’s heatwave.
I can’t tell if you disbelieve that, or if the possible deaths just wouldn’t bother you?

I live in a country with a mostly moderate climate, but we have had temps in the region of the UK's several times without masses of extra deaths. Given that many deaths in this type of weather are actually from people drowning, or even if they do get heatstroke, that is surely down to the individual not using some common sense (in most cases, I realise some people really can't tolerate heat).

I never said there wouldn't be some deaths, but honestly the reaction from some on MN is so OTT. I have friends in the UK, none of them has carried on the way some of the more dramatic MNers have.

Bigmouthshouthotair · 19/07/2022 22:33

I never said there wouldn't be some deaths, but honestly the reaction from some on MN is so OTT. I have friends in the UK, none of them has carried on the way some of the more dramatic MNers have

Well good for them 🙄

U2HasTheEdge · 19/07/2022 22:35

bellac11 · 19/07/2022 22:00

Is this inside your house? Did you take the roof off today and expose the whole area to the sun!!!!

My house is 30c at 10.30 pm. I did all the right things, but it is still too hot.

New build, lots of people living here/body heat.

AnnieSnap · 19/07/2022 22:35

I haven’t heard anyone say “thousands will die”🙄 Although some of the ‘it’s just a bit of hot weather, stop being a drama Queen’ posts are now resorting to statements like this so they can hang on to being right FFS!

bellac11 · 19/07/2022 22:37

U2HasTheEdge · 19/07/2022 22:35

My house is 30c at 10.30 pm. I did all the right things, but it is still too hot.

New build, lots of people living here/body heat.

Thats quite surprising, it should be well insulated I thought these days?

Glencanto · 19/07/2022 22:38

onlythreenow · 19/07/2022 22:30

Well they happen every year here too. We get quite a few locally. You just don't hear about
This is different.

What is different about it?

Well, we had a similar heatwave for about 3 days in BC last year, and about 650 died. We have a fraction of the UK’s population.
So hundreds, or even thousands, dying is well within the scope of possible outcomes for the UK’s heatwave.
I can’t tell if you disbelieve that, or if the possible deaths just wouldn’t bother you?

I live in a country with a mostly moderate climate, but we have had temps in the region of the UK's several times without masses of extra deaths. Given that many deaths in this type of weather are actually from people drowning, or even if they do get heatstroke, that is surely down to the individual not using some common sense (in most cases, I realise some people really can't tolerate heat).

I never said there wouldn't be some deaths, but honestly the reaction from some on MN is so OTT. I have friends in the UK, none of them has carried on the way some of the more dramatic MNers have.

Well, the vast majority of the deaths we had during last years heatwave in BC were among elderly people with health difficulties, so I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they weren’t all drowning.

Maybe they should have had the common sense not to be old and ill, eh?

theclangersarecoming · 19/07/2022 22:38

onlythreenow · 19/07/2022 22:30

Well they happen every year here too. We get quite a few locally. You just don't hear about
This is different.

What is different about it?

Well, we had a similar heatwave for about 3 days in BC last year, and about 650 died. We have a fraction of the UK’s population.
So hundreds, or even thousands, dying is well within the scope of possible outcomes for the UK’s heatwave.
I can’t tell if you disbelieve that, or if the possible deaths just wouldn’t bother you?

I live in a country with a mostly moderate climate, but we have had temps in the region of the UK's several times without masses of extra deaths. Given that many deaths in this type of weather are actually from people drowning, or even if they do get heatstroke, that is surely down to the individual not using some common sense (in most cases, I realise some people really can't tolerate heat).

I never said there wouldn't be some deaths, but honestly the reaction from some on MN is so OTT. I have friends in the UK, none of them has carried on the way some of the more dramatic MNers have.

No, most of the deaths are amongst older people or people with heart or blood pressure conditions, whose bodies can’t cope with the additional pressure on the heart from the heat. The deaths typically happen in care homes, hospitals, and amongst older people living alone. Are these people just not using common sense….?

runforyourdog · 19/07/2022 22:38

We are in France at the mo but had same weather over the weekend / yesterday. My dad was 'scoffing' but then drove 3 hours in his camper that doesn't have air conditioning then was pretty poorly yesterday afternoon! I had to douse him down in cool wet towels, honestly thought we would have to call an ambulance! It's cooled down here now but I think he was quite shocked at just how hot it was!

Justanotherlurker · 19/07/2022 22:39

This thread is a mirror of the height of the Covid outbreak, in a few months it will be forgotten and those that where hysterical saying 1000's of deaths are predictable will just ignore their side and pretend that they didn't play a part with a name change and go on to the next disaster porn that they can hype themselves up over, I predict it will be an autumn storm and then on to winter snow.

As long as they can smug post online with twitter hot takes such as mass consumerism is at fault whilst they sit at home posting to an amazon data centre hosted website from their latest iphone...

This post is nothing more than covid hysteria, I bet the op is gutted the death rate isn't as what a lot where predicting, if they was really concernded they wouldn't be posting a 'told you so' type post that was more than likely based on human interaction on the wildfires (and ignores most of the north had them only a couple of years ago) and be pointing out the nuanced real world issues with climate change, currently Germany are having to go back to coal because the Greens decided it was a feel good factor to get rid of nuclear, on top of that they are snapping up a lot of the cheap fuel from 3rd world economies which will flame the global crisis, they also could maybe provoke statement as to why Sri Lanka is currently going to shit after they banned pesticedes and what impact that has played, but no, posting from a safe space from a smart device that uses rare earth metals trying to tell give other people a 'told you so' is the ultimate form of slaktavism.

Porcupineintherough · 19/07/2022 22:42

That's such an ignorant post @onlythreenow . Go read about the physiological effects of heat on the body. If you are stuck in a hot home (and lots of people are) then you don't get to choose whether it effects you.

bellac11 · 19/07/2022 22:42

I think its also the breathtaking arrogance and self obsession of those who decide that if you're calm and just ticking along sensibly doing the right thing for the temperature and not acting like the country has to shut down, that climate change is something that hasnt crossed your threshold

The reality is that most of us who are stoical and calm expect this, its not unusual in that respect, it will continue. We are the ones who dont just jump when its bad weather to shout about climate change because we're living with the contribution we can make, theres not a lot more we can change and we're already doing it

Perhaps its just hit the other posters, perhaps they didnt recognise whats going on under their noses.

liveforsummer · 19/07/2022 22:43

CPL593H · 19/07/2022 22:15

For what it's worth, my Nan's rehydration remedy (she was born in in the 1890s) was a pint of cooled boiled water with a couple of heaped teaspoons of sugar and half a teaspoon of salt stirred in (probably doesn't need to be boiled if you are using it for anything other than an upset tum). A doctor once told me that this was definitely on the right track, especially in the absence of anything else.

It was one of her few "sovereign remedies" that didn't contain alcohol Grin

I imagine you need to boil it to dissolve all that salt and sugar sufficiently. Might be easier just getting some cheap lemonade (flat lemonade used to be a remedy too - shake it up then release a few times to get rid of bubbles)

eastegg · 19/07/2022 22:51

Eeksteek · 19/07/2022 21:50

Nobody ‘locked themselves in in the dark’ That’s hysteria. Attaching over-emotional language to moderate actions.

I did shut the curtains on the sunny side of the house to stop the sun coming in. It would have been utterly ridiculous not to! The sun was bloody hot! I opened them once the sun went round to the side. I didn’t lock the doors, because that would make fuck all difference and implies I felt the sun was a security threat. Which is silly. It was 28° in my sitting room and 39° in my garden. It wasn’t ‘Coooler in the shade somewhere’. The heat was blasting off the patio pavers, even in the shade and the wind was hot. I don’t know where you are, but it was very unpleasant here, and to imply people are fearful and ridicule a very minor variation in behaviour is unhelpful to say the least. Just because I’m not 95 and dying doesn’t mean I want to sleep in a 30° bedroom!

Well said. What I would like to have said if I wasn’t so knackered. Particularly like the way you picked up on the emotive ‘locking’ bollocks. Reminds me of those people who called masks ‘muzzles’. Inaccurate, ridiculous, rhetorical language which undermines whatever argument is being made.

Eeksteek · 19/07/2022 23:10

bellac11 · 19/07/2022 22:00

Is this inside your house? Did you take the roof off today and expose the whole area to the sun!!!!

No, I locked myself in in the dark. 🤣😉🤣

Seriously, that’s inside my ordinary, newish bog-standard house in East mids. I closed the curtains, doors and windows on the sunny side and swapped them over mid day. We have fans with bottles of ice in front of them in the sitting and bedrooms. and haven’t cooked. I’m still sitting outside on a vest at 11pm. It’s just that hot here.

The only time I’ve ever been this hot previously was a French/Italian heatwave in 2019. (The French and Italians were also saying it was unusually hot for them) so I knew what it would feel like. It’s the only time I’ve ever used the aircon in my motor home. In normal South France/Italy temps we don’t use it.

sst1234 · 19/07/2022 23:12

The media had a good news day. That’s all that matters.

ChagSameachDoreen · 19/07/2022 23:25

Have thousands died?

I've honestly not found it too bad.

HotHeatDays · 19/07/2022 23:37

ChagSameachDoreen · 19/07/2022 23:25

Have thousands died?

I've honestly not found it too bad.

Well that's fine for you. It's still 28 degrees here and no one is sleeping.

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