To ask if this scoffing at the concern over the heatwave have changed their minds yet?

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Just that really. I've just watched the news. The houses burning, the grass fires, the rail infrastructure buckling. Record temperatures in 29 locations today. Several areas exceeding 40 degrees. Do you still think it's 'hysteria' to take it seriously?

Nobody ‘locked themselves in in the dark’ That’s hysteria. Attaching over-emotional language to moderate actions.

One example was a poster who sat inside all day long with all blinds down with their dc watching movies and eating ice cream. Was their door locked? Probably! Not that hysterical. She was criticising someone else for being at the beach (early in the day)

This is now. It’s 9.50 pm.

We are slowly going to become extinct. This is one small tipping point but there will be others. We need to rapidly decarbonise and end capitalism or we will be gonners. That's my understanding

I'm fit and healthy and worked from home both days with windows shut and curtains closed. It's been much cooler inside than the temperatures outside and made for much more comfortable working conditions. I don't see that as being something to scoff at?

Is this inside your house? Did you take the roof off today and expose the whole area to the sun!!!!

I cant remember if it was this thread or not but it will be much worse tomorrow. It will be a cooler temperature but the humidity will be worse, its going up now. It says 40% now, it had been 30 earlier and also yesterday.

This is very bad news.

Oh so just like normal food? Having a nightmare with my son, he doesn’t drink hardly at all and is a rubbish eater. Was wondering if I now needed to add salt to the long list of things to try and smuggle into him 😂 he is a very sweaty sort of child. I do try not to use too much salt when I cook but of course they get salt in their regular food.

40% humidity isn't bad at all. It's been that here the last few days. It's 76 now. Compared to evenings on holiday abroad really not that bad

Why is that bad news @bellac11 ?@bellac11

@Kanaloa salt on its own won't do much good. It's electrolytes that need replacing from sweat, especially with dc. Dioralyte is good. In very hot weather when we lived abroad the paediatricians would recommend it for toddlers and young children as a drink

I take climate change seriously but being told that "THOUSANDS WILL DIE" made me roll my eyes.

I agree, so ridiculous. As for the fires, it's not good but it happens in other countries every summer, it's just that you don't hear anything about them (I'm not talking about huge scale bush/wildfires). Where I live we've just had gale force winds and flooding, but without all the hysteria accompanying a few hot days in the UK. It seems whenever something slightly out of the ordinary happens in the UK some people go into panic mode.

For the most part yes, Ive been in situations where I have needed to make sure I need more salt, so salt added in or like you say a handful of peanuts.

I was just remembering that reading the posts above where people who say they havent actually been out in it and stayed home have still become ill, they need to make sure they're not sweating out.

Particularly a lot of people dont add salt to cooking or their food or really have cut back and see salt as a 'bad' thing

I can't listen to it anymore to be honest. After everything that has happened over the past few years I think it's time the media were held responsible for the panic they cause. People have always said the world was going to come to an end. The media have just decided to take the place of these weirdos.

The firebrigade themselves have said this is unprecedentented. Do you think they are lying?

At least 2 areas (not checked since this afternoon) have called major incident status.

I meant that its increasing, not that 40 is bad yet. But as it gets more and more humid, more and more sticky

I think the issues are the fires are in different areas than normal. You often aren't aware if it's not on your doorstep. We live where there is lots of open space and wild camping is legal and popular. There are lots of fires - usually die to stupidity of people

It's 22h and 28C still here outside. I can imagine a lot of elderly having a very difficult night.

Well, heat is bad enough, but I think we were saved by having very low humidity today and yesterday, so it felt somewhat bearable.

Tomorrow its going to be very humid, horrible,, sticky, melty, sweaty. Just horrible and much harder to deal with physically.

People react by saying "it's not that bad, it's been hot before, it'll be finished by next week etc...". What they don't seem to understand, is that these heatwaves all across the UK, Europe and in many other parts of the world are merely a symptom of a very damaged planet (by us). It's not just the heat, it's the complete breakdown of an ecosystem which has allowed the human race to flourish. Without this ecosy in a healthy shape, I'm afraid we're going to have lots of struggles ahead. Food prices are already high, add to the mix unpredictable crops because of the loss of clear defined seasons and you'll see those prices even higher. People will lose their homes to either fires or erosion or floods. Rich people as usual will be able to climate proof their lives but will just contribute even more to the general pollution which is our greatest disease. Poor people will just have to suck it up and make do. I fear for our children and grandchildren. Anyone who dismisses there's a real issue for all of us there is in denial and probably finds reality to hard to bear. Unfortunately, we have to face up to reality in order to do something about it. Part of growing up I suppose...

I agree, so ridiculous. As for the fires, it's not good but it happens in other countries every summer, it's just that you don't hear anything about them

Well they happen every year here too. We get quite a few locally. You just don't hear about

This is different.

Whilst shouting that people are hysterical, it seems they can't face actual facts and downplay reality.

The people getting hysterical were not so excited on all the other days people lost their homes as they didn't present the same entertainment value.

And let's think about these fires. Buildings didn't burst into flames from the heat and even grass needs something to start a fire like a spark from a BBQ etc.

Grass burns on hot days because it is dry from the previous hot days and then is ignited by something. To ignite grass from the heat alone would usually require temperatures greater than 572 (remember why the book Fahrenheit 451 was called that?)

So the grass-fires were not caused by today's temperatures and where they spread to buildings those fires were also not caused by today's temperatures.

We have people in place to deal with the fires and that's all we can do.

It won't be that much harder to deal with given it will be around 15 degrees cooler. As I said it's 76% here now and you can notice it but it's not unpleasant

Well, we had a similar heatwave for about 3 days in BC last year, and about 650 died. We have a fraction of the UK’s population.

So hundreds, or even thousands, dying is well within the scope of possible outcomes for the UK’s heatwave.

I can’t tell if you disbelieve that, or if the possible deaths just wouldn’t bother you?

Yes, it has been hot, but I haven't changed my mind and the media reaction was completely unnecessary and hysterical - just as it was in the pandemic. It is very sad to think that serious and responsible journalism seems to be a thing of the past.

Agree. It's still 31 here and you can feel humidity levels rising.