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AIBU?

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To pay our cleaner even when she doesn't come??

79 replies

FusionChefGeoff · 17/07/2022 10:14

Am I being a mug??

We can afford it - £35 a clean is not nothing to us but it's money accounted for in a monthly budget which allows plenty of clubs / treats / holidays.

It started in covid where we'd just had a windfall (thank fuck as my business was decimated) and before the grants were in place so we kept paying.

And when she goes away / was ill / son had covid etc we kept paying.

I've just said to her she doesn't have to come tomorrow if she can't face it - and couldn't bring myself to say 'but I won't pay you'

AIBU??

Yes - you're being a mug. Set some boundaries
No - you're doing a good thing and you can afford it so don't worry

OP posts:
bert3400 · 17/07/2022 13:01

With my cleaner if they cancel - I don't pay
If I cancel - I pay
Keeps it simple

heattreat · 17/07/2022 13:38

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow 💤 💤

You must have something better to do than that great lengthy post, that I didn't even get through!

Bore off!

heattreat · 17/07/2022 17:09

Galliano · 17/07/2022 12:11

I have had the same great cleaner for 8 years. I paid her through Covid lockdown, I paid her not to come when we had Covid, I pay her on the incredibly rare occasions she is ill.
She is self employed through an agency owned by a friend of mine so somewhat convolutedly she just still puts a timesheet in for my hours meaning I’m at no risk of gaining any employer responsibilities. For my team at work who earn many times what my cleaner does I am always flexible because I know they are generally conscientious. Would be sad if I couldn’t extend the same consideration to my cleaner. I took time off with Covid secure in the knowledge that I’d be paid - would hate for someone on a lower wage and much more impacted by the cost of living crisis to be denied that.

Hang on there! You'll be accused of treating her like a servant by @saraclara and @MissLucyEyelesbarrow will have her dragging you through an employment court.

You cannot be nice and treat people well, it's disgusting and @saraclara thinks you're treating her likes she's not self employed and can stop working for you next week if she wants.

I'm ready for her to start talking to me about modern day slavery soon.

I've sent this to my lovely cleaner, she is literally pissing herself laughing. Had asked me to please ignore @saraclara, so I will!

HELLITHURT · 18/07/2022 09:32

saraclara · 17/07/2022 11:21

It's arrogant and patronising to treat a cleaner as an employee @heattreat . They're self employed. They're their own boss. So treat them with the respect they deserve and pay them for the service they provide.
You seem to want to be your cleaner's boss. She's not your servant, she's a service provider.

WTF did the heat get to you @saraclara , paying someone additional money is treating them like a servant?

She is self employed, so I am sure that if she doesn't like working for the PP, she can move on and leave.

@FusionChefGeoff I would pay, it's exceptional circumstances.

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