Page 18 | To not understand the constant panic

Teder · 15/07/2022 21:55

Talk about “I’m alright Jack”. Some of you need to remember you aren’t the centre of the world. I’m not panicking, not for me nor my family. I am appropriately concerned for people whom cannot put a wet flannel on their face at home or eat a solero. 🙄I’m glad health and social care services have appropriately planned for those who are at extreme risk, for example; homeless people, those who are disabled and cared for in bed to the point they cannot access water freely, those working in usually hot environments and unwell people
in overheated hospital wards etc.
Good thing we haven’t taken the advice on here just to get a paddling pool and get over it. 🤔

Cornettoninja · 15/07/2022 21:56

SueSaid · 15/07/2022 21:22

'if this kind of news doesn’t provoke fear then honestly, I’m really pleased for you'

Honestly.

Let's all be a bit concerned that Mon and Tues will be very hot. The very elderly and vulnerable will need extra care. There is no need for 'fear'. The nhs will not implode.

It already is.

literally just back from A&E (not the patient, they’re still there).

999 told me it was a two hour wait for an ambulance and based on the symptoms if there was a community defibrillator nearby I should arrange someone to go and get it.

seven ambulances were queuing outside with patients waiting. When I left there were 126 people waiting to be seen according to the display.

so yes, it is actual fear I feel.

TuftyMarmoset · 15/07/2022 21:58

EV117 · 15/07/2022 21:26

Have you ever been to Britain? All of our buildings are designed to retain heat.

😂

So you think our buildings are designed to keep cool do you? Our carpeted, shutterless, large windowed, poorly ventilated buildings?

bellac11 · 15/07/2022 21:58

BirmaBrite · 15/07/2022 21:50

The Met office have started reporting things in the way where they describe things as 'dangerous' or give 'warnings' completely in alignment with modern sensibilities.

Have you mistakenly used sensibilities instead of science ?

Most people with a bit of common sense and some weather related mitigations, will be fine, hot and miserable, but fine, we all know that.
There will be some things that could be effected by extreme heat such as transport which will mean a reduced or alternative service, pain in the arse but not immediately life threatening.
There will also be a lot of people who will need help and advice to keep safe, so small children, the elderly, those who cannot regulate their temperature as easily as you and me, people who are undergoing treatment for various conditions and those who take any of the many medications which have an unfortunate effect on the human body combined with high temperatures.
Far easier to ignore all that and pretend the Met office is pandering to snowflakes when they are just pointing out the bleeding obvious !

No I said sensibilities because thats what I meant.

People speak too much of not coping, pathologising discomfort or annoyance, normal development or irritation has been turned into poor mental health.

News and factual information is now reported in tune with that.

BirmaBrite · 15/07/2022 22:00

"Most" of the country has not been in a heatwave this week - we don't all live down south. It's been cold, grey, windy and rainy where I am today (North Yorks). I have had my hot water bottle out.

Its a big County , overcast and some drizzle early on, good breeze which dried up the drizzle sharpish and dried the washing , very little decent rain for a while, river levels are on the low side, no lush green fields round here, all looking a bit parched, the earth is tinder dry, big field fire near us recently, hope they get the harvest in and hay baled before any more hit, especially with feed prices as they are.

SueSaid · 15/07/2022 22:00

'I’m not panicking, not for me nor my family. I am appropriately concerned'

Good. That's the way. Some folk will be having panic attacks before its even started.

Shade and hydrate, look after old and vulnerable people. It'll all be over in no time then we can revert to the usual wind and drizzle.

Lovemusic33 · 15/07/2022 22:02

I kind of agree OP, but I also understand that some people will struggle with the heat.

What does make me laugh is people who are moaning (on my FB) about it happily go on hot holidays to Turkey etc and don’t moan about the heat whilst there.

I am not too bothered by it, I shall stay indoors as much as possible, luckily I no longer have a job where I would struggle in the heat. I do feel for those working in catering and hospitality as well as though working in busy hospitals.

TuftyMarmoset · 15/07/2022 22:02

onlythreenow · 15/07/2022 21:54

Have you ever been to Britain? All of our buildings are designed to retain heat. None of our infrastructure is designed to withstand 40 degree heat. It would be like Australia experiencing blizzards.

They do have snow in Australia you know. As for all this "our buildings are designed to retain heat" - what does this mean? I wasn't aware that the UK is classed as being among the coldest places in the world. Some parts of the world have very cold winters and very hot summers without the hysteria some of you are exhibiting - and contrary to what MN seems to think, the whole world does not have air con. Australia, much like where I live, has buildings which are designed for neither heat nor cold, so we either bake or freeze, and yet somehow we cope. I have seen numerous threads on MN about how people won't be able to deal with conditions we face every winter because they won't be able to heat the whole house to a comfortable temperature. I suspect the majority of people in Australia are more pragmatic and just get on with things.

However, as it seems the summers are going to get hotter in the future maybe it's time the UK started preparing for it.

Yes but snow is to blizzards what normal hot weather is to this, it’s extreme and unprecedented. The U.K. infrastructure is fine at roughly -10-30 degrees. It’s never been this hot before so things just aren’t designed to cope with it because they’ve never needed to. DP is a meteorologist and he said someone at work was concerned about our pylons because they aren’t rated to above 40.
And I don’t think Australia is just getting on with things very well given that half the country is regularly on fire.

Rosessmelllike · 15/07/2022 22:04

You have no consideration for outdoor intensity manual workers then or nurses rushing around a stifling hospital treating heatstroke. Must be nice to live in your cosy little air conditioned office bubble.

CapMarvel · 15/07/2022 22:05

This thread really is a bunch of people falling over themselves to be the biggest wanker. Always the same when it comes to weather warnings.

You, yes you may not be personally impacted but lots of people will and these warnings are actually appreciated. If you think the media are overegging it then let me introduce you to the off button on your TV remote.

BirmaBrite · 15/07/2022 22:06

News and factual information is now reported in tune with that.

Is it though ? or is it that you don't like the the factual information being reported on this subject ? Perhaps it doesn't fit with your particular bias ? I know when I hear stuff that goes against my own bias I get a bit huffy, but that doesn't mean it is wrong, its just uncomfortable for me to hear

whenwillthemadnessend · 15/07/2022 22:06

@JaniieJones

Actually a burst pipe due to heat has left my town and neighbour town without water for the last 15 hours and that's before 40 hits.

Somethingneedstochange · 15/07/2022 22:06

Not deep snow they don't. Texas homes aren't built for the cold look how much they have struggled the last couple of winter's. As in icicles on ceilings. Many of they're homes are now worthless.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-storm-photos-freeze-cold-weather-b1804401.html

Diyextension · 15/07/2022 22:06

I’ve got a 20 pack of mr freeze ….. so I’ll be fine 😎

RoseAndRose · 15/07/2022 22:07

What does make me laugh is people who are moaning (on my FB) about it happily go on hot holidays to Turkey etc and don’t moan about the heat whilst there

Just looed up the typical summer temperature for Turkey - it's 31

Much of England it going to be hotter than that. And could even be within a couple of degrees of Turkey's record temperature of 42.

And of course, it's different on holiday, when you're off your usual routine and in accommodation built for the climate

antifascist · 15/07/2022 22:07

SueSaid · 15/07/2022 22:00

'I’m not panicking, not for me nor my family. I am appropriately concerned'

Good. That's the way. Some folk will be having panic attacks before its even started.

Shade and hydrate, look after old and vulnerable people. It'll all be over in no time then we can revert to the usual wind and drizzle.

yes it's not as if there's a climate emergency with temperatures getting hotter every year

NoKandoo · 15/07/2022 22:08

Panicnomore · 15/07/2022 17:42

I'm finding it so incredulous to see the level of panic and hysteria on here about a 2 day heatwave.
Posters seem to be hyping each other up. Can humans no longer cope with anything outside of their comfort zone?

No, they can't. Everyone has gone batshit, not least as a result of Covid telling them that Everyone Will Die (no shit, Sherlock).

It will be very hot for a couple of days. I'm glad, as I like hot weather. Even if I didn't, I wouldn't be hysterical about it.

I don't have an air conditioned office, btw, but I still like hot weather.

WarmJuly · 15/07/2022 22:09

In 2003 a heatwave caused 14,000 deaths in France and 30,000 Europe wide. That's why there's panic. If we do reach those temperatures there could be a lot of people die. My DH already has ankles like balloons and it's not that hot today.

Rosessmelllike · 15/07/2022 22:11

I am very concerned for wildlife. If you read this post - please put out and top up regularly a shallow dish for the birds and hedgehogs! Thank you

Jewel1968 · 15/07/2022 22:13

But why does it bother you so much that people overreact to heat?

Aren't you overreacting to people overreacting?

There are tricks and tips I will use to try and keep cool. I am asthmatic and heat is a real problem but I will up my steroids and hope for the best.

Thwomp · 15/07/2022 22:13

We had a similar heatwave in Vancouver last year, I think it was 650 heat-related deaths in the city over the course of a weekend.

loulouljh · 15/07/2022 22:14

Could not agree more.

antifascist · 15/07/2022 22:18

if anyone needs help over the next few days www.nhs.uk/conditions/heat-exhaustion-heatstroke/

Drywhitefruitycidergin · 15/07/2022 22:18

bellac11 · 15/07/2022 21:33

I would imagine that is what the OP is referring to, that activities which are fine to go ahead are being cancelled due to hysteria and completely out of proportion risk assessment.

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Totally agree this is exactly what OP was referring to but you can't reason with some people despite multiple of us trying - it ends up with the worriers taking their kids out of school for the day and kids miss out & it's such a shame.

There are plenty of people who have to risk assess their situation appropriately and act accordingly of course & stay home/in the shade/keep cool/make plans etc especially if they are vulnerable. I feel like Covid has made people not able to think for themselves but maybe it was ever thus and I just didn't notice.

StolenCookie · 15/07/2022 22:19

All the people acting like this is just a regular ‘hot summer’ - it isn’t. There’s a level 4 warning and a threat to life, even for those considered low risk. I think there’s often a cavalier attitude to nature and we don’t respect it as much as we should. 40 degrees is unprecedented and there WILL be loss of life. I don’t see anything wrong with everyone taking the precautions they can.

And to anyone saying ‘what about other countries’ - ENGLAND is not set up to deal with these temperatures. I lived in Japan and it’s a very different set up there and you’re never far from a heavily air conditioned shop - I’d often go into one during my walk home in sweltering heat to cool off. The country is built with these temperatures in mind.