To ask if you a Conservative Party Member who you like to see in the final two and who would you vote for?

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As the title says.

We will have a new PM and the decision on who it is will ultimately reside with CP members.

I would rather this wasn't a political thread in the sense of Conservative/Labour/LidDem/Green etc.

I'm simply very interested to understand the direction of travel here for party members and would ask that people posting respect that and don't pounce on party members who post.

For reference I'm not a party member, but my uncle is and in his constituency he's saying it's a run off between Sunak, Mordant and Badenoch in terms of local support.

Agree with this.

I'm just so disappointed Johnson turned out the way he did because his actual ideas and centrist thought processes were what I liked about him and voted him for.

We just seem to have competent people with extreme ideas that'll hurt the country as a whole and those poorest the most or those who want more equality and levelling up but are lying waste of spaces.

It's quite depressing as much as it is worrying.

PS - how are you going in this heatwave? Has it hit france yet? We are due it mon/tues next week and I know Spain is really suffering right now.

"Hacking" is a bit strong for guessing that the username was harriet & the password was harmon. Also, all she did was post nice things about Tories. Mischief not vandalism.

Certainly shows another side to the lady being touted as such a thoughtful thinker, though.

Lol! Harriet Harman is in nearly as much trouble then as I'm pretty sure that even bacn then it was a faux pas to use your own name as a password!

I have had some very funny discussions with the cyber security folks in the UK - in their various guises - over the years.

This just all seems so farcical. Is this really the best we can do? That makes such mediocre people look great to some people?

I really think we should be able to do better.

"Hacking" for typing in someone's name. You could not make this up. Is that true? It's bonkers.

@itsgettingweird Hunt was much more of a centrist than Johnson though, that is undeniable. Less extreme is every way and more rational, and not a proven liar and cheat and reasonably competent unlike Johnson with his track record up to that point even. So I am interested - again very genuine question - why when given the choice between them the Conservative Party membership chose Johnson? And whether they are yet ready to acknowledge that that was a huge mistake.

Not saying they should pick Hunt now btw - he is out anyway as we all know - but with the benefit of hindsight, dp you think most would admit now that was a bad move? Given the two options on the table.

I mean he's pretty boring but also reliable and I doubt he'd have landed both the Conservative Party and the country in such a clusterfuck. 🤷🏻‍♀️ But I'd like to hear your opinion.

Sorry again OP - not what you wanted to discuss. Apologies. Will shut it now!

Popularity boris is popular hunt rhymes with cunt so is easy to slaughter boris is a buffoon but he gets the votes because he isnt "boris Johnson" he is "boris" the beer swilling peppa pig fan

Don’t apologise to OP. If they wanted to conduct a membership poll, they could have done it through the usual channels, or wait till September 5th like the rest of us.

constantly chiding folk however on here for not reading post 75 of 150 or whatever and reminding “conservative members ONLY please” is hilarious. On an anonymous Internet forum, anyone can claim membership.

The CP made the right call at the time as they got an 80 seat majority, Hunt may not have - but who knows

imo Hunt was not that benign given his appetite for lockdowns which have been damaging.

Johnson was fairly centrist due to spending but most if the public, well some of it, couldn’t see that over another perception that he was to the right.

Like demanding lockdowns I thought the left demanding he go was madness - they will potentially end up with a candidate further to the right who will cut spending.

imo the media plays a large role. It feeds fear eg Covid or emotion - partygate that leads to decisions which economically aren’t the best.

Having said that Johnson’s spending was problematic in itself

Sunak obviously did a lot of it but at the end they diverged on continuing

Liz Truss has just slagged off her old school. For what reason. She's 46. It's my daughters school now and outstanding! So is she saying her own government inspections are a waste of time? Apparently her dad was lovely and a socialist.

I saw a meme saying it’s like having to choose which portaloo to use on day 3 of a festival 😬

Johnson appealed to the public more with his persona. It's was also his biggest downfall but whatever negatives you say about him his charisma was appealing.

I’m a former member. Didn’t pay my dues last year and have emailed to ask whether I can pay now and have a vote but not heard back yet.

I’d vote for Tom- he’s the only one I trust to take an adequate position on Russia and China and the big stuff like food and energy security. He also seems a decent man. I don’t mind Penny Mordaunt although she seems to be tying herself in knots over the trans issue. Don’t mind Rishi.

I thoroughly dislike Suella Braverman and hope she goes out soon. Not a fan of Truss either.

I thought the left demanding he go was madness

Most on the left wanted him to stay, he was Labour’s biggest electoral asset.

Kemi Badenoch otherwise, because she is diversity embodied, and it sticks the finger to anyone claiming the Tories are racist or sexist

Give me strength - I do hope you aren’t a party member if this is the level of your reasoning

He turned out to be a liability hence the party getting rid of him which was correct

Labour leaders seem to hang around when MPs object and then have major losses

So in that regard I’m fine with it.

Spending was out of control in some ways so again it needs something new. Again the public is lead by media - Sunak’s wife is too rich rather than economics

He turned out to be a liability hence the party getting rid of him which was correct

Absolutely.

Labour leaders seem to hang around when MPs object and then have major losses

Which Labour leader other than Corbyn has outstayed their welcome?

Wasn’t the last loss enough? That was a big defeat

He was hugely stubborn against many MPs

I’m glad Johnson didn’t do the same

Most on the left wanted him to stay

Although I question this given the threads that ran daily on here with the opposite

I’m glad Johnson didn’t do the same

It took 50 MPs to resign for Johnson to finally bugger off following countless scandals. Let’s not pretend he was ahead of curve.

I’m fine with that

If it’s not like Corbyn - how many was that? Then that election result

It took his cabinet to resigned 1 by 1 for him to actually listen to his need to go.

He didn't step aside. He's being pushed out. And rightly so.

At least he’s going, it was fairly swift in reality a couple of days. Obviously some will find that terrible fir whatever reason but it has no impact really as the outcome has been reached

I don’t know if Labour have a different system but I remember Corbyn ignoring the walk outs and saying no

People seemed to accept it at the time but it was a good warning for a bad result