Was I being overly sensitive? *TW animal death

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So I live in a small Villiage, as a previous city dweller some of the downsides of living in the countryside have taken a while to get used to, such as cows waking us up at 5am, free roaming peacocks destroying our cars paint on the roof and general manure smells every now and again. But after 4 years we are getting there.

Last night a local farmer had 40 lambs killed, he thinks it was a dog attack, instead of just putting a normal post about it on the local FB group (like he and other farmers have before) his son instead decided to share 20 graphic photos of the dead lambs along with the post asking for information or if anyone saw anything.

Now I was pretty upset to be scrolling through FB and to then see images of lambs ripped apart, insides everywhere, pilled on top of each other and commented this on the post. Reminding him that there are teens and young people in the group and it's maybe not the best thing to put on here, to be fair I'd expect many people, adults included would feel upset seeing these images on their FB feed.

I was jumped on by the farmer, other farmers in the village, the 'we've been here for 30 years, go back to the local city if you don't like it' lot and even accused of being the attacker, despite not owning a bloody dog.

I personally also think 40 lambs in one go is unlikely to be a dog attack, but didn't comment that of course.

Was I being unreasonable or overly sensitive to find this shocking and to maybe suggest it's a bit too much to post in a FB group where local children often post looking for summer work or weekend car washing for pocket money? Am I turning into one of those 'think of the children' people!

Considering the police in this instance didn't and actually refused to share the farmers post on their FB (as they usually do) kind of proves they also thought it was a bit much.

They typically just share the post directly to their pages to raise awareness, but not in this case.

i think you should have reported the post to admin rather than the farmer himself
you were never going to get him to agree with you.

i have seen plenty of images as described, but they are normally blurred.

and you are turning into one of those think of the children people
you should be over 13 to post on facebook

Why have you bothered asking if you are being unreasonable if you've already decided you aren't?

Sounds more like a fox than a dog

Fox! Lol as if. They're not chickens.

If you live where PP has implied and your extraneous information has suggested, you're very very close to DP's family.

Dog attacks are horrific and one of the worst things about them is not the suffering of the animals, not the suffering of the poor bastards who go to where their flocks are to find empty moor and then absolute fucking carnage, but the way that people complain about them expressing their upset, saying 'oh, it can't be a dog that did that' and when they are at the point of needing to show the reality of what has happened to them and the animals, going 'oh, it'll upset the children to see that, I don't want to see it' - because people are fucking stupid and can't comprehend what the reality looks like and will still let their domesticated wolves loose on their ancestral prey for 'Hugo to have a bit of fun playing with the sheep' or 'oh, he's always come back to me at Battersea Park, he'll be fine around things that he's genetically programmed to chase and kill, I don't need to put him on a lead, I'll just call him back when I see some sheep'.

YABVVVU.

Get over yourself. Someone has had their livelihood ripped apart gruesomely and has to clean up the mess after and you are pointing blame back at the farmer. Who else do you think killed all those sheep? Humans can’t rip limb from limb. Cats don’t attack sheep. No British birds of prep cause that damage. Only dogs do. That is unless you’ve got an escaped jaguar on the loose. In which case best you move back to the city and stop complaining about the way farmers live their lives.

🙄

The worst thing about it is without doubt the suffering of the sheep. Nothing else compares to it, not the farmers financial loss or pretend ‘heartbreak’ for the animals he ‘loved’, not the farmer finding them or people complaining. Nothing compares to what those sheep will have gone through to be killed, whatever the circumstances were.

Village life doesn't seem to be very fulfilling to OP if she has to post repeatedly on MB arguing how she is in the right on every little point of this scenario, when she's already magically resolved the actual problem by tattling to FB admins.

*MN

For the sheep themselves, yes. But for the farmers (who as has already been mentioned, have an extremely high rate of ending their own lives), one of the worst things can be people refusing to acknowledge the enormity of what has happened to the animals because 'Oh, no, it's distressing, I don't want to see it, why are you confronting people with the true reality of what loose dogs do?'. Or saying 'what's your problem? They'd be in an abattoir in six months anyhow'.

That poor farmer. He’s lost this years income in one night because some idiot can’t control their dogs.

There is nothing else in the Uk that can rip apart lambs. Not unless we suddenly have wolves.

It was dogs. These people need to be held accountable.

Sharing the photos may be a bit too dramatic, but it might make said idiot think twice before letting their dog off the lead. Sadly, it probably won’t

Just to add, if it was the dead of night, could it possibly have been hare coursers, and the dogs found the lambs instead.

YABVVU.

The farmer has to deal with it face to face, not just photos.

If he'd posted 'my sheep were worried last night', you'd never have imagined what you saw today.

Someone now knows their dog didn't just run down a rabbit when out last night, but tore apart a flock of sheep.

Someone now knows their neighbour's dog that sometimes slips out at bedtime is actually doing serious damage.

He gets to post.
You should be horrified by what happened, not grumbling about having to see it.
The reality of rural living is 'sometimes smelly, annoying, distressing things happen'.

Fucks sake.

A farmer has seen his livestock shredded and you are complaining that your sensibilities have been offended.

That's why this shit happens. See the reality of dog attacks on sheep and oh, woe is me, horrible farmer assaulting my senses like that. Tough. Instead of bemoaning the insensitivity of making you see the carnage join with the farmer and be vigilant for off lead dogs.

Show people what dogs do if they’re not on leads, absolutely. Its reality.

But lets show them the other true realities of farming and slaughterhouses. I’m all for it. I think there would be far more vegans or at vastly improved methods. The reality of our ‘food’ is hidden behind words like free range, rspca approved, red tractor and ethical. Bring it on I say, show everyone what this actually means. Unfortunately, the realities are often only seen in undercover footage which often gets taken down if posted. People are threatened both with formal legal action and trouble/violent acts. And the farming propaganda is allowed but the vegan society can’t get their adverts approved. Tell people the real truth about all of it, because if they’re horrified by a few dead lambs, they wouldn’t cope at all with the things really happening on U.K. farms and slaughterhouses. For every farmer and slaughterhouses that does things right (not that it’s good enough imo) there’s plenty that don’t.

It might have, you can't possibly know who has read it and taken something in from it. Given you started your post along the lines of being an outsider and learning to fit in and not knowing everything your posts are arrogant as fuck, but as long as you aren't upset any more all is well I guess.

Actually, it's still you struggling with the basics: facebook are not the arbiters of moral conduct. Nobody is stopping you making unrelated points, but they remain simply irrelevant to the responses given to the original question of the OP.

OP asked if she being overly sensitive to find it shocking. That’s a matter of opinion. She also asked was she unreasonable to suggest it’s a bit too much for Facebook. Again, individuals would have different opinions. But it’s now been taken down so presumably whoever did that thought it shouldn’t be allowed. She’s allowed to report it or bring whatever she wants to the farmers attention. it’s not unreasonable. It wouldn’t bother me, it does bother others. My other responses are not irrelevant if you are aware of this farm. If you don’t want them to be relevant to you, feel free to ignore them. They are however related to this case.

My other responses are not irrelevant if you are aware of this farm. If you don’t want them to be relevant to you, feel free to ignore them. They are however related to this case.

I'll say it again - your opinions on this farm are not relevant to whether the OP is being over-sensitive or not. I've not told you not to share your opinions - I really couldn't care less, but I did respond to a post of yours which implied that people's opinions would differ if they knew what you claim to know about this farm.

It's meant to be shocking. It's trying to shock ignorant townies into controlling their dogs.

There is no right or wrong as to whether OP is overly sensitive, people will be different. It’s opinion, not fact to say OP is or isn’t too sensitive. But the conversation moves on from the original question. And peoples opinions may differ if they for example knew that it wasn’t a dog attack, or that it was lampers gone wrong or the lambs were killed by something else or the lambs were killed by the farmers own dogs or many other possibilities.

And townies is being used as a derogatory term. I’ve lived in the countryside, then city, now I have homes in both. There are plenty of country folk that do not control their dogs. There are plenty of psycho farmers who threaten any owners of any dog.

I find it so patronising when vegans think if we just "saw the reality" of an abattoir we'd all stop eating meat.

Just got a happy text from my SIL, she's been given a large bag of mutton by her boss who slaughtered this weekend.
That's how I grew up, seeing home slaughtering. It hasn't put me off eating meat and its nothing like an animal getting killed in a dog attack.