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Was I being overly sensitive? *TW animal death

213 replies

alphapie · 09/07/2022 21:29

So I live in a small Villiage, as a previous city dweller some of the downsides of living in the countryside have taken a while to get used to, such as cows waking us up at 5am, free roaming peacocks destroying our cars paint on the roof and general manure smells every now and again. But after 4 years we are getting there.

Last night a local farmer had 40 lambs killed, he thinks it was a dog attack, instead of just putting a normal post about it on the local FB group (like he and other farmers have before) his son instead decided to share 20 graphic photos of the dead lambs along with the post asking for information or if anyone saw anything.

Now I was pretty upset to be scrolling through FB and to then see images of lambs ripped apart, insides everywhere, pilled on top of each other and commented this on the post. Reminding him that there are teens and young people in the group and it's maybe not the best thing to put on here, to be fair I'd expect many people, adults included would feel upset seeing these images on their FB feed.

I was jumped on by the farmer, other farmers in the village, the 'we've been here for 30 years, go back to the local city if you don't like it' lot and even accused of being the attacker, despite not owning a bloody dog.

I personally also think 40 lambs in one go is unlikely to be a dog attack, but didn't comment that of course.

Was I being unreasonable or overly sensitive to find this shocking and to maybe suggest it's a bit too much to post in a FB group where local children often post looking for summer work or weekend car washing for pocket money? Am I turning into one of those 'think of the children' people!

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alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:04

Mally100 · 09/07/2022 22:02

Yabu and should have kept out of it. The farmer was clearly upset and wanted everyone to know how serious this was. You should have kept your opinions to yourself.

But why are pictures necessary, they won't do anything to help the situation, if anything it makes it worse as I myself didn't bother reading most of the post neither did many neighbours who just hid the post when seeing those images pop up. So it's preventing people from actually engaging with the issue. Thankfully FB removed the post after a while as it breaks community standards.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 09/07/2022 22:04

Have you any idea how much money the farmer will have lost from those 40 lambs? Do you know the suicide statistics for farmers? I think you're showing a staggering lack of empathy. Maybe, after 4 years, country life is not for you.

alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:05

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 09/07/2022 22:03

If graphic images on FB prevent one person from taking a risk around livestock then it's worth it.

You say that the photos are unlikely to help identify the owners of the dog(s) involved. I disagree. Even responsible owners find their dogs escape/run off. If a dog had been missing overnight and comes home with blood on his face the owner would be made aware of who to contact by the post.

Yeah unlikely, the same as every other dog attack that's left unanswered this will be the same unfortunately. As who would admit that!? Especially as the farmers have now involved the police

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ohmygash · 09/07/2022 22:06

yabu. It’s the reality

Misty999 · 09/07/2022 22:06

YABU it's to show those that don't secure their dogs the damage that can be done.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 09/07/2022 22:07

Shocking people DOES sometimes make people take more care about their precious dog's behaviour. Particularly when they're exposed to the reality of what it's done, and that next time it may well end up shot.

Your attitude is appalling.

alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:08

Eyesopenwideawake · 09/07/2022 22:04

Have you any idea how much money the farmer will have lost from those 40 lambs? Do you know the suicide statistics for farmers? I think you're showing a staggering lack of empathy. Maybe, after 4 years, country life is not for you.

And that has and impact on them sharing graphic images?

Nope.

And suicide rates, you mean the ones that are in line with wider male suicide rates in the UK? And since the majority of farmers in the UK are male this means they are no more likely to commit suicide than the average male.

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alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:09

CaptainThe95thRifles · 09/07/2022 22:07

Shocking people DOES sometimes make people take more care about their precious dog's behaviour. Particularly when they're exposed to the reality of what it's done, and that next time it may well end up shot.

Your attitude is appalling.

Thankfully FB disagrees with you there, sharing graphic images of dead animals is against community guidelines so am glad to have reported it now

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LivingLifeOnTheVeg · 09/07/2022 22:09

Poor lambs, I’m aware of this case. No sympathy for the farmer. 🤐

They were going to die for people to eat, he’s only bothered about the finances. The approved way of killing them at a slaughterhouse isn’t pleasant either and plenty of times isn’t done as it’s meant to be so they suffer even more.

Scianel · 09/07/2022 22:10

What on earth do you think it was if not a dog or dogs? It's not we've got wolves or lions roaming about.
Farmers suffer loss after loss after loss because of dog attacks. No wonder one of them decided to post the reality.
I can't imagine a recent city dweller beaking in that it upset your sensibilities helped much.

SickKid · 09/07/2022 22:10

I wouldn't enjoy seeing that image on my fb feed, but I wouldn't have commented. Momentary unpleasantness for whoever sees it and then they get on with their day vs the suffering of the lambs and the horror of the farmer on discovering and having to deal with them? Not really comparable are they??

CaptainThe95thRifles · 09/07/2022 22:10

alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:09

Thankfully FB disagrees with you there, sharing graphic images of dead animals is against community guidelines so am glad to have reported it now

I don't think facebook's community standards have any relevance to the ethics of this incident.

QueenOfHiraeth · 09/07/2022 22:11

I think 40 lambs suffering such an awful death and the farmer having that loss when times are hard enough trumps your right to cosy and sanitised FB posts.

Scianel · 09/07/2022 22:11

They were going to die for people to eat, he’s only bothered about the finances

You mean his living? If someone had raided your bank account of your salary and savings you'd not be describing it as "only".
At least he has a useful job feeding people.

rainbowunicorn · 09/07/2022 22:11

It is because of attitudes like yours that city dwellers moving to the countryside often find locals to not be very welcoming. Your attitude is vile and you show absolutely no understanding of the issue.

alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:12

rainbowunicorn · 09/07/2022 22:11

It is because of attitudes like yours that city dwellers moving to the countryside often find locals to not be very welcoming. Your attitude is vile and you show absolutely no understanding of the issue.

Vile, to be a bit shocked at graphic images being shared on FB?

Christ Grin

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Maytodecember · 09/07/2022 22:12

40 dead lambs is a huge loss to the farmer.
A dog/s attack is the most likely. Probably more than one dog as they go into pack mode and will just kill, kill, kill. Could be holidaymakers in the area whose dog or dogs have run off, or local dogs. My doors are open all day in this weather but my dog can only get from the house into the small garden that’s got a 6 ft fence round it but it’s easier for dogs to escape when doors and windows are open.
only other explanation is foxes but they usually puck on a weak lamb or two and often drag them off.
I can understand you being upset at the images but you live in a farming community and I can understand the farmer wanting it known the damage loose dogs do.

justfiveminutes · 09/07/2022 22:13

I think the farmer is fed up of posting heartfelt pleas and hoped to shock people into securing their gardens and keeping their dogs under control.

Regardless, you have publicly criticised a pillar of the local community and won't have endeared yourself to anyone. They will also think it was you who reported it. Which you could have just done in the first place, anonymously, without trying to tick him off.

Scianel · 09/07/2022 22:14

Vile, to be a bit shocked at graphic images being shared on FB?

Vile to moan about it and report it instead of being supportive to the farmer, yes. You must really be Mrs Popular in your chosen new area.

alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:14

Maytodecember · 09/07/2022 22:12

40 dead lambs is a huge loss to the farmer.
A dog/s attack is the most likely. Probably more than one dog as they go into pack mode and will just kill, kill, kill. Could be holidaymakers in the area whose dog or dogs have run off, or local dogs. My doors are open all day in this weather but my dog can only get from the house into the small garden that’s got a 6 ft fence round it but it’s easier for dogs to escape when doors and windows are open.
only other explanation is foxes but they usually puck on a weak lamb or two and often drag them off.
I can understand you being upset at the images but you live in a farming community and I can understand the farmer wanting it known the damage loose dogs do.

My issue is are images necessary, most know it's not ideal to let dogs lose in fields, there are posts upon posts about it, police notices, signs, yet some twats still do.

This post isn't going to stop those people who already know they shouldn't do it. It's just unnecessary and ott

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ChrisTrepidation · 09/07/2022 22:15

YABU unless you're a vegan.

We see dead animals in supermarkets and butchers every single day.

Cameronnorrieisabitofalright · 09/07/2022 22:15

I bet everyone says their ddog would never do anything like kill a sheep. Townies need to see what their ddogs are really capable of...

CaptainThe95thRifles · 09/07/2022 22:16

OP: AIBU?

AIBU: Yes, YABVU

OP: No I'm not, and I must be right because facebook agrees with me!

God help us all...

alphapie · 09/07/2022 22:16

Scianel · 09/07/2022 22:14

Vile, to be a bit shocked at graphic images being shared on FB?

Vile to moan about it and report it instead of being supportive to the farmer, yes. You must really be Mrs Popular in your chosen new area.

Why would I be supportive of someone who takes 0 care of his sheep, has caused at least one car crash due to his (I say his, it's a family operation) lack of care and constantly puts people and sheep at risk. Every week some escape, no other farmer has this issue and many have more livestock to keep track of.

They don't seem to have adapted to the massive road through the villiage and dual carriage way less than half a mile away.

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Scianel · 09/07/2022 22:17

They don't seem to have adapted to the massive road through the villiage and dual carriage way less than half a mile away

They're not the only one that doesn't seem to have adapted then.

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