To go on a plane with covid?

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I have covid right now and due to fly to Spain in a few days. The rules are that I just need to show my vaccine pass but doesn’t seem to say don’t travel of you have covid. Can this be right? Don’t know if I need to cancel. I tested positive 4 days ago.

Loads on the plane will probably have it but won't know as they've not tested

My SIL and mates all went to Glastonbury and had tested positive the day before.

I agree with this.

Some real thickos on this thread. Covid obviously wasn't the same as a cold or flu or it wouldn't have been so dangerous. I actually wish there hadn't been a vaccine and it had just wiped everyone out. I can't believe how stupid and entitled people are. Hopefully another one will be along soon with special.spikes for the terminally stupid. And Spain?.killing people.for a shit holiday in Spain? Sad.

Depends entirely on how careful Millymoo was being not to catch it. If she avoids public transport, works from home and only shops online, she has a much bigger chance of avoiding it. So not ridiculous at all. You, however, seem to think it’s ok to be rude to anyone who’s not happy to spread covid around. Pretty grim, really.

@Natsku ‘but quite another to fly knowingly with symptoms, as that’s more likely to spread it.’

I don’t think this is necessarily the case. The NHS website says ‘You might continue to have a cough or feel tired after your other symptoms have improved. This does not mean that you're still infectious.’. There must be a lot of people with long covid who have symptoms well after the 5-10 days but who are no longer infectious.

It's fine to go on a plane within certain time frames with various illnesses.

Norovirus for example, people tend to go back to normal after 48hrs from the last time they vomitted or had diarrhea but it CAN potentially be contagious for 2 weeks. No one expects people to stay indoors for two weeks because of the unlikely possibility it may still be contagious. We accept that 48hrs is the average / reasonable time for infection and go back to normal once that's passed.

It's UNLIKELY OP will still be infectious after 10 days from her symptoms starting. Not impossible no but unlikely. We can't expect people to put their lives on hold because in some rarer cases it may be infectious past 10 days. 5 is actually the guidance at the moment so OP will double the current guidance by then!

People go into an absolute flap when Covid is mentioned though.

I'd go, went to work with covid the other week, unless I'm keeled over in bed from it unable to do anything I'm not letting it rule my life.

It wouldn't have wiped everyone out. Why are you making out its the equivalent of the black death? The vast majority of people would have been fine without a vaccine.

I really think it's the same as chicken pox or d&v. My children both have covid right now, the 5 year old is fine but my 7 year old is unwell. She hasn't been able to eat for over 24 hours and is feeling vert rough with headaches and a sore throat. I wouldn't knowingly pass it on.

School rules are 3 days if feeling well but some teachers are vulnerable so I'm waiting until she tests negative.

Well aren't you the cutest

They might ruin there holiday by being ill though ,I have covid right now and I don't feel well at all .

Exactly. It has always been the rule that you shouldn't fly if you are actively unwell and airlines can refuse to let you board the plane. Infections spread more easily on planes than elsewhere. Whilst I think OP will probably be OK to go (especially if she wears an FP2 mask), some of the attitudes here are so selfish.

This argument is flawed because it's assuming OP will still have covid when she flies, when in fact she will be several days beyond the recommended isolation period, 9 days post symptom onset and may very well be asymptomatic and testing negative.

If people want to compare to D and V, then the appropriate analogy would be 2 or 3 days after the end of the 48 hours. If people want to compare to chicken pox, the appropriate analogy would be 2 or 3 days after all spots have scabbed, which as per the NHS guidance would probably be day 7 or day 8 after the spots appeared. Even on MN, it would be a niche position to tell someone they shouldn't be flying 5 days after the last vomit or diarrhoea in a D and V episode.

If you test negative before you fly then go and enjoy your holiday.
I know people who have had Covid recently. One was still testing positive after 10 days although they felt fine.Another was still positive after 7 days.

Now all the rules have gone out the window I tend to work on the last set of rules which made some sort of sense (at least to me). If you test negative two days in a row 24 hours apart I think it's fine to fly. I don't think it's reasonable to get on a plane whilst still testing positive on a lateral flow less than 10 days after a positive.

Yes, some people including young and healthy and getting really ill with the latest omicron variant. DD's friend (healthy 20 year old) said it is the worse virus she has ever had.

But again, chickenpox has a timeframe of being contagious. You can go back to school etc... Once scabs have formed on all of the spots. It wouldn't be reasonable to suggest no one who's had chicken pox can leave the house until every single mark has disappeared.

We accept that there is an average timeframe and we go with that. SOME may be contagious for longer but typically, we follow the guidance set out.

You're flying Tues night. Just do daily LFTs from now. You'll see if pos test line is getting fainter.
I would not fly with pos test result - it will invalidate your travel insurance if you need to use it - anything undeclared affects any insurance.
You'll be 9days post symptoms so I suspect you'll be testing neg by Mon/Tues.

Absolutely do not get on a plane if you are still testing positive for Covid. You will make a lot of people unwell, many of whom will fall ill when they are not in their home country, and some of whom will then not be able to travel back.

You may well be negative by the time you need to fly though - you need to keep testing, and if you’re negative by then you can fly.

Exactly! Please keep repeating this as often as possible. It’s a total myth about the air recirculating but somehow it has stuck.

Whats the policy with regards to refunds/ postponing?

If no refund available and you feel well in yourself, id double mask and go.
People are going out with covid all the time now so its barely worth being a martyr about it.

@ApplesandBunions I was talking about the poster who flew back from Spain because she didn't have insurance, thinking she was going to test positive for COVID and that she had COVID but didn't test.

To knowingly get on a flight in those circumstance is fucking stupid.

If OP tests negative I would have zero issue, if she's testing postive then best to wait for the ten days re advice staying away from vulnerable people.

The reality is if everyone gets onto planes with COVID we will be back to a) no flights operating due to crew isolating and b) travel restrictions back in place for international travel due to the spread.

The part about her knowing she was taking the risk of catching covid when she made the choice to fly is undoubtedly true, though. Even if she knows exactly where she caught it, she's completely invented the part about getting it from someone who knew they were positive and flew anyway. It was a ridiculous post.

People go into an absolute flap when Covid is mentioned though.
Another thing to thank Boris for. “Stay home, save lives” roughly translates to IF YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. They had to really up the ante to ensure everyone was taking intense levels of personal responsibility, else they may have found people unlikely to follow such extreme laws as not leaving the house.

We may never shake the need to treat covid positive folk as lepers.

Long covid/post-viral other viruses is different from the acute stage of the illness though, its in the acute stage that you can still be spreading it, and more so if coughing and sneezing. I would say within ten days of first getting ill is acute stage.