Energy to go up 64% in October

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And 4% in January.

Fuck sake!
I dont even have an AIBU, this is just fucking ridiculous.

They won't remember. The same people complaining here will vote the Tories in again next time. All because they think labour is somehow worse than this bullshit excuse of a party. Because they think only labour are against women...

The Tories are against humanity. And use women as playthings. Great option to pick.

I bet it wasn’t a happy childhood for your parents though, no doubt it was fucking stressful

We had home made clothes and hand me downs. Our home made clothes were taken up twice, let down the next year and the following, then taken back up for the next child. Knees were patched and jumpers were darned. Nothing was wasted ever.

We walked everywhere, it was unheard of to take a bus.
We ate out once a year and once a year we had a take away.

Despite how austere this sounds it was a happy childhood.

I agree with a pp that it must have been stressful for your parents.
I hope you weren't bullied by other children for the hand made, darned and patched clothes 😞

Partly because of the completely insane reaction to nuclear energy in this country. We desperately need nuclear energy but the nutty campaigners are against it. I hope this brings to light what a mistake it is to not be pursuing this option.

It's not nutty the opposition to nuclear in this country. Far from it.

@toooldtocarewhoknows

how old are you?

My mother made beautiful clothes and could alter things professionally, my grandmother had been a seamstress so had passed on her skills.

Apart from school we didn't really mix with others apart from seeing extended family occasionally.

Back then you really didn't know you were poor, we didn't.

We had (discrete) hot free school meals.

I did a lot of free things together with my sisters and had fun. We'd walk in woodland, paddle in the streams, make a den in the woods, make 'perfume' and potions from the garden. We had a rope swing and a home made tipee. We'd spot birds and butterflies, walk to the park, enjoy the beach. Help mum cook. Help my dad decorate, paint, tile, wallpaper.

I enjoyed flower arranging and sewing. We made rag dolls from scrap fabric and painted the faces. We rolled paper to make beads to thread. We had toys, but very few and mostly a doll each.

We foraged for food too, I did this with my parents and grandparents. It's something they had always done.

Our location was a very good one thankfully, it would have been quite different in a town.

You can have a good time as a child with nothing. I think we now live in a very commercial society reliant on 'things' to make us happy. I know my children weren't interested in what I did or enjoyed as a child.

Born in the 1960's () the 70's were my main childhood.

Your childhood was ”not the norm” for the 70s, just as wouldn’t be now

well said

It may not be the norm now, but it's coming. People will be going back to heating one room, putting the oven on once and reheating food on a hob to keep bills low.

My point was that even if things are tight, children can be less affected than we think.

That's surely got to be a good thing. There will be terribly anxious parents right now wondering about how they are going to get by.

How will the government reduce GLOBAL wholesale prices?

The French are just staving off the inevitable by borrowing and passing the cost onto the future.

The Germans are now seriously looking energy rationing for non essentials.

How about we cut VAT or the green levy on energy, which combined makes up 17% of your bill, rather than the 2% profit the energy company makes?

Given how awful the government is running anything, I wonder why so many want it to run our energy supply.

Lastly, have a look at your pension and see how much your fund invests in the energy sector. It's not just billionaires taking profits from shares and investments, it's millions of ordinary workers.

Glad to hear it @toooldtocarewhoknows

It sounds lovely, aside, and the some of the things I did as a child and with my own children; the woodland walks, spotting, foraging. Apart from being able to make clothes!

I do wonder if coming clean about horrendous price hikes we are better prepared so less likely to endure the power cuts I recall in the seventies because we're already rationing our selves now. We're hunkering down now if we've any sense

@toooldtocarewhoknows I agree with you!

I do a lot of those things for my children. I make a lot of their clothes, they wear second hand and then hand things down. If trousers rip at the knee I make a star or heart shaped patch to sew on. I’m good at sewing and enjoy it, and can’t abide waste. If a kids t shirt has stains all down the front I’ll use the pristine back to cut out a sleeve for a new raglan t shirt. We live quite rurally and most of the things we do for fun are free or cheap. The are very happy messing about in the woods making dens. The eldest is at a lovely village school with lots of farmers kids who are like minded. Everyone wears hand me downs. If someone bullied someone else for wearing patched clothes the bully would be dealt with not the patched clothes!

My children are happy. I mean, they may feel differently about home sewn clothes in a few years. they are still little. but I passionately believe we don’t need “stuff” to keep us happy. And that the environment needs us to use less and waste less!

also again a lot of people are already doing EVERYTHING possible to cut down on energy usage. You do reach a point where you can’t cut back any more.

They literally printed more money, so those three things you listed are a con trick to keep us compliant

The Bank of England could print a £100 trillion note (or, more accurately, create £100tn in reserves in the BoE for the Treasury) and pay off all our debt today. But they don’t.

Why?

Because they are scared of creating out of control inflation

This was a terrible excuse during austerity but in a tight labor market it is a risk

Debasing the currency is a major problem, yes. Additionally, paying down the debt is also somewhat pointless. We will always have a deficit because we import more than we export and we make very few physical things here.

So long as the gov’t bond auctions still get buyers interested, you can service the debt interest. If the debt gets too big to even pay off the interest, to say nothing of the principal, then we have major issues, especially as we’re not the global reserve currency like the US dollar.

That said, the US is currently making it very hard for people to want to stick with the system we’ve had since their empire grew to dominate everything financially. If the BRICS countries move to a basket of reserve currencies that subvert the dollar, then the U.S. is in trouble.

I am not particularly optimistic about the UK, as our growth prospects have been hampered for decades and we sold off the best family silver in asset purchases by foreign entities long ago. This is what could lead to a currency crisis.

So yes, we could with the stroke of a pen (keyboard) erase any debts and be made whole. But that is simply financial trickery and doesn’t change that we wouldn’t have the physical goods we’d need, just a ledger that says we paid our IOUs in what is now worthless paper.

Not unreasonable thinking it is high but unreasonable to blame the government as it is down to external forces. Any subsidies provided by the government are paid for by taxpayers so you have to ask is it the best use of our taxes, especially when so many don't pay tax.

That won't happen not because of the loyalties with the Ukraine but the idiotic western agenda.
However, I totally agree with you, we need to negotiate and actually understand how vulnerable our people are. The decision makers won't be freezing, it will be us who do.

We fixed last October so I’m really nervous about the reality of energy prices as I feel we’ve been really protecting from them so far and October will be a huge jump. So many people don’t have a spare £50 at the end of next month I’m not sure how things are going to go. We’re luckily in a good position but that can change quickly!

We fixed last October so I’m really nervous about the reality of energy prices as I feel we’ve been really protecting from them so far and October will be a huge jump. So many people don’t have a spare £50 at the end of next month I’m not sure how things are going to go. We’re luckily in a good position but that can change quickly!

for those interested in protest
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Yes, you're right. Swathes of board members and unnecessary management, duplicated in every utility company, and dividends. All this is down to Margaret Thatcher who destroyed so much in Britain.

OMG, I pay £494.80 a month at the moment. This will make it go over £800 a month!