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Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 08/07/2022 14:01

Warning: graphic descriptions follow, in BBC News article and BBC video interview with the family:

Two NI police officers have been investigated for more than three years over allegations they manipulated a person who died by suicide's body and shared photos and a video online.

One of the officers has been suspended with full pay while the Police Ombudsman investigates. It is part of a wider investigation encompassing 11 separate but related incidents spanning several years. There are multiple suspects, including police officers and civilians, in Northern Ireland as well as in England. The investigation is looking at a range of possible offences including misconduct, harassment and the suspected supply of drugs.

The allegations around the two Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) officers are harrowing. The police officers asked the family to leave the room. The victim's body was moved around the room and posed for photographs and a video. His trousers were taken down and his genitalia exposed for one of the photographs. The images were then photoshopped with speech bubbles mocking the victim, including using a derogatory term for his religion and shared.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62012268

The victim died in 2017 in Belfast. That is five years ago and still the police (PSNI) have not charged these sick and callous individuals. Only 30 hours of interviews have taken place in 5 years. When two disgraceful Met police officers similarly shared images of the bodies of murdered sisters Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry, they were quite rightly prosecuted and sent to prison - even by the Met.

The BBC recently broadcast interviews with two Police Service of Northern Ireland whistleblowers speaking publicly for the first time about serious allegations of misconduct and negligence within the PSNI:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0017yyn

Some Mumsnetters will have also seen my threads and those of others about the death and disappearance of young Noah Donohoe, also in Belfast, in 2020. After he had been missing for 6 days, Noah's naked body was retrieved from a drain. Two years later, his mother Fiona is still having to fight for the truth about her son's death and for justice for him. It is the same police force: the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI), and the same Chief Constable: Simon Byrne.
Here is a factual and reliable pinned Twitter thread for people new to Noah's story or wanting to know more:
mobile.twitter.com/MarymoBelfast/status/1370453351616425985
Here is Fiona's podcast:

Here is a Channel 4 News report: www.channel4.com/news/noah-donohoe-family-seek-answers-over-belfast-teenagers-death And please do sign Fiona's petition if you haven't already: www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4573833-noah-donohoe-his-mothers-fight-for-the-truth-and-justice-please-help-stop-the-police-coroner-and-brandon-lewis-from-keeping-investigation-files-into-the-death-of-a-child-secret-thread-3?

These are only three examples of many serious failings from the PSNI. Victims' families have lost trust in them. Decent, whistleblowing officers have lost trust in them. The Metropolitan Police have recently been put into special measures for their failings. AIBU to believe that the same must happen with the lazy, corrupt, incompetent, racist and bigoted PSNI?

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 05/08/2022 10:29

UPDATE: Very pleased to report the petition against the PPI Certificate signed by Shailesh Vara now has 316,183 signatures and still climbing steadily. Please continue to sign or sign and and share widely if you can, and don't forget to confirm your signature for it to be counted. Link to the petition thread in the OP. Thank you.

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LuaDipa · 05/08/2022 10:47

If even the Met are taking more effective action the NI police force must be in a very sorry state.

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 06/08/2022 21:22

Yes, I agree, @LuaDipa

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 06/08/2022 21:23

Pleased to report that:

  • Noah Donohoe has been trending on Twitter every day now for a number of days
  • The petition now has 319,307 signatures and still climbing steadily
Please continue to sign Fiona's petition against the PII Certificate, and to share it and Noah's story on social media if you can.
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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 06/08/2022 21:55

Noah Donohoe: Private hearing to take place before inquest
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62437301

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 08/08/2022 22:46

Petition update:
Very pleased to report that Fiona Donohoe's petition against the PII Certificate now has 322,131 signatures of support for young Noah and is still steadily climbing. Please continue to sign and share, and don't forget to confirm your signature via the email Change will send you for it to count. Link to the petition thread is in the OP. Thank you all very much.

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HeartsOfBlue · 09/08/2022 19:40

💙

Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
HeartsOfBlue · 10/08/2022 19:07

PLEASE NOTE; due to road works along A6 and M1, the bus will now leave Derry Guildhall Bus stop at 10.30am this Saturday - half an hour early.
Don't forget, you must pre-book your seat by email and have this confirmed by Lilian Seenoi-Barr - spaces are limited.

Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
HeartsOfBlue · 10/08/2022 21:45

Bump

JonahAndTheSnail · 11/08/2022 00:14

Thinking of precious Noah: may he and his loved ones find the answers they need x

HeartsOfBlue · 11/08/2022 08:38

A bus is also available this Saturday from Fermanagh, for those wishing to attend the rally for Noah. It departs from Lisnaskea, Main Street at 11am. For those still needing to book a seat, please contact the organiser Lisa Smith as soon as possible - number in the image below:

Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 11/08/2022 17:42

Thank you @JonahAndTheSnail 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 11/08/2022 17:43

Statement released by KRW Law Human Rights today:
Noah Donohoe Inquest. PII application
We repose grave concerns re the application by Secretary of State for redactions of sensitive materials citing Public Interest Immunity

Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 11/08/2022 18:21

Woman who failed in bid to trade in Noah Donohoe's laptop for money for drugs avoids jail
www.itv.com/news/utv/2022-08-11/woman-who-tried-to-trade-in-noah-donohoes-laptop-for-drug-money-avoids-jail

Mr O’Hare told the court she has been subjected to “very unfair comments on social media” since her conviction.
This is one despicable individual my heart does not bleed for. I for one remember what was said to have happened to Noah in a witness statement, with four career criminals named - since, of course, retracted - even if she claims not to via the police/PSNI.

A slapped wrist for her, and that is all. Remember her name: Maria Nolan.

Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
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HeartsOfBlue · 11/08/2022 20:30

Please help spread the word, especially to those not on social media, even if you only tell one person. Thank you.

Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 12/08/2022 16:31

Some updates posted on this thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4599643-noah-donohoe-the-latest-news-is-very-bad

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HeartsOfBlue · 12/08/2022 18:38

I apologise to everyone having difficulty finding this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4607036-belfast-calling-please-join-his-family-this-saturday-13th-august-for-noah-donohoe-and-for-all-children-everybody-welcome
Unfortunately this has been completely out of my control. I found out only when you did. The thread has been moved from Chat by MNHQ without any contact with me via email and without any comment from them on the thread. I find this disrespectful and unsupportive, towards me as the OP and a longstanding mumsnetter, towards other posters on the thread and towards Noah and his family. In the past, we could have expected better from Mumsnet. I can only conclude that the vocal minority of reports complaining against threads for Noah have continued by those with their own agenda. Whether this is racism, sectarian bigotry, fear of the truth and justice because of the attention Noah's story is now getting, or something else, I can only guess. I do know that negative reporting and racist and other trolling posts towards his mummy Fiona and Noah and their supporters have increased alongside publicity after the PII was signed and ahead of the rally for Noah in Belfast tomorrow. The haters won't win. Justice for Noah and the truth for Fiona. 💙

HeartsOfBlue · 12/08/2022 20:47

Please do join the rally in Belfast at 1pm at City Hall tomorrow if you possibly can. Please don't leave it to other people to swell the numbers on your behalf. If everyone thought like that, nobody would be there. Please come and stand up for Noah, stand with Fiona and Niamh, and stand up for all children. As Noah's auntie Niamh says, 'Everyone is welcome to show their support on Saturday. All parties, all cultures & religions. Noah's Army & the fight for truth & justice is inclusive of all.'

HeartsOfBlue · 13/08/2022 00:05

Noah Donohoe's family releases statement ahead of Belfast city centre protest
www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/noah-donohoes-family-release-statement-24742546
"I'd like to firstly reiterate our complete gratitude at the swell of support around the worrying use of PII," Noah's aunt Niamh Donohoe said.
"The fact we are not screaming into the abyss alone is a huge comfort and support to us. People finally see the injustice of a lot of decisions being made in Noah's Case.
"Tomorrow is a gathering of Noah's Army from all across the globe, people have extended trips from NYC to be here, are travelling from across the pond and from all counties of our beautiful island. Each and every one of you are making a difference and impact. You are Noah's Voice.
"To all our friends in Noah's Army who can't be with us, we know you will be in spirit and will watch with pride as a community of amazing humans send out a strong message to those who need to see it.
"Please remember this is not a march. We are asking people to stand with us at Belfast City Hall at 1pm. There will be a few key speakers talking about the PII issue and because of time constraints on a gathering of that size we will ask the crowd to disperse safely and quickly at the end.
"We hope to keep you all no longer than an hour, it's the solidarity and the volume of people coming together that will have the impact, not the duration of the stand. Saturday's weather will be warm again so please be aware and take precautions.
"Thank you to everyone involved over the past two years especially Noah's Army you all make the difference."

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Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
Police officers 'shared images of person who died by suicide' - Warning: graphic descriptions
HeartsOfBlue · 13/08/2022 10:37

Final call from Belfast this morning. Those who cannot be there at City Hall in person, please be there in spirit between 1pm and about 2pm today. Thank you. 💙

BelfastsChild · 15/08/2022 20:36

More updates posted on the quoted thread.

SolviturAmbulando · 30/08/2022 13:34

GREEN AND BLUE | Noah Donohoe death will colour the response to new play on Garda and RUC border patrolmen
‘People respond to it from the context in which they find themselves so inevitably the Noah Donohoe case will affect it’
www.sundayworld.com/news/northern-ireland-news/noah-donohoe-death-will-colour-the-response-to-new-play-on-garda-and-ruc-border-patrolmen/102347148.html