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Boris Johnson- IS there anyone better?

104 replies

NellesVilla · 07/07/2022 12:38

I’m not interested in politics or BJ, but really…is there anyone that could do any better?

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HannahBanana926 · 07/07/2022 12:59

Larry, of course

NellesVilla · 07/07/2022 13:01

Even I know Jeremy Hunt would be useless!

Had to add that my elderly neighbour has referred to Nadim as Brutus/Judas. She’s furious!

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FunDragon · 07/07/2022 13:01

Rashgremlin · 07/07/2022 12:54

Sorry, did you just say that Teresa May 'seemed quite sweet'?

Because quite sweet is a top quality in a Prime Minister 🤦‍♀️

She also wasn’t ‘sweet’, at all. And no male politician would be described as sweet.

Although when she resigned I really empathised with her.

MayThe4th · 07/07/2022 13:03

He absolutely needed to go but sometimes I think we need to be careful what we wish for.

It’s worth bearing in mind that after Thatcher went the Tories stayed in power for another 6 years.

I think it’s entirely likely that the tories will win the next election.

NellesVilla · 07/07/2022 13:03

@HannahBanana926 , I agree that Larry would be quite a fun leader. Payment in kippers, so v cheap!

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THisbackwithavengeance · 07/07/2022 13:04

Bring back Rory Stewart.

Rosebuud · 07/07/2022 13:04

I also liked Rory and as much as boris had to go due to lack of moral fibre, he did do a lot of good work, in some of the most difficult of times. I’m not sure anyone else could have achieved the same. If May was still in the hot seat we’d still be fucking about arguing about brexit.

DinosaursEatMan · 07/07/2022 13:07

TiredYorkshireMam · 07/07/2022 12:54

I read that as Rod Stewart.

Would still be an improvement.

So did I!

TheFeistyFeminist · 07/07/2022 13:10

Boris surrounded himself with "Yes, Sir" types who are unfit for the top job. There must surely be competent leaders coming up the ranks, still on the back benches, but they won't get the job because they don't have the profile.

Mind you I'm hardly thrilled with any of the choices in any of the main parties. My interests are not well represented by any of them. The prospect of a general election in the current state of things is pretty depressing, keeping the Tories is pretty depressing.

Where do we go from here?

Daisy03 · 07/07/2022 13:17

Is this really how low standards are, and how brainwashed society is, that we should keep someone in the most powerful position in the country because we don't have the critical thinking skills to imagine another way?

SkankingWombat · 07/07/2022 13:27

mbosnz · 07/07/2022 12:49

Personally, I would only vote Conservative if they got behind Larry the cat for PM.

I would normally say it would be a cold day in hell before I voted Tory, but Larry has the potential to change that. I can see a reduction in working hours and free tuna rations for all in his manifesto. Maybe even some free evening classes in How To Look Bigger In Times Of Danger. Then there would be all the new jobs as professional door openers he'd create.

PiffleWiffleWoozle · 07/07/2022 13:32

Penny Mordaunt would be alright.

😱

Agree Tom T is a decent enough guy and competent. Jeremy Hunt would be ok too but already lost trying last time and is coming last in all the polls against pretty much every candidate 😟

LizzieMacQueen · 07/07/2022 13:34

It's not possible now she's not an MP but Ruth Davidson would have been a good choice.

TiredYorkshireMam · 07/07/2022 13:37

LizzieMacQueen · 07/07/2022 13:34

It's not possible now she's not an MP but Ruth Davidson would have been a good choice.

She would have been, but she was always quite vocal about never wanting to do it. Said the toll on her mental health would not be worth it and just didn't not appeal to her.

It certainly takes a certain kind of person to want to do it.

SeasonFinale · 07/07/2022 13:37

NellesVilla · 07/07/2022 13:01

Even I know Jeremy Hunt would be useless!

Had to add that my elderly neighbour has referred to Nadim as Brutus/Judas. She’s furious!

I am interested to hear why you know Jeremy Hunt would be useless especially when you have already indicated you know nothing about politics.

*Nadhim

Dashel · 07/07/2022 13:37

ilovesooty · 07/07/2022 12:42

Larry the cat.

My top choice and I would follow his social media pics

Wilkolampshade · 07/07/2022 13:47

There's a spongey onion at the bottom of my fridge would do a better job.

QuebecBagnet · 07/07/2022 13:50

I really wish Rory Stewart was still an MP. He’s the only Tory I ever thought was half decent.

with the current lot I fear Jeremy Hunt may be the best of a bad bunch.

people I think would be really bad;

Truss
Nadine Dorries
Sunak
Patel

Gove is a coked up twat

possibly Saijd Jarvid might be ok but I do think anyone who has been in the cabinet recently is tainted by Boris and should have found their moral compass sooner.

QuebecBagnet · 07/07/2022 13:54

Hunt was fairly useless as health secretary, but they all are. However we had an issue at the hospital I worked at and 3 people wrote to him anonymously whistleblowing. He had an independent hit squad in that hospital within 2 weeks. So I had some respect for him for that. Of course it could all have been arse covering so if it turned into the next mid Staffs nobody could accuse him of knowing about it and doing nothing. The hit squad were useless actually but I can’t really blame Hunt for that, they were qualified health professionals

ThreeRingCircus · 07/07/2022 13:55

I wish Rory Stewart was still an MP, he had integrity.

As it can't be Rory, I'd say Tom Tugendhat is the best bet but I don't think he's got a chance as he actually has integrity!

xalo · 07/07/2022 14:00

Tom Tugendhat definitely.
Boris hates him so that's good enough for me.

ByeByeBoree · 07/07/2022 14:00

Larry is top choice obviously but actually it's not a high bar to clear.

Most people I've ever met would do a better job.

Eg I used to work with a woman who had a bit of a breakdown and became convinced that Ronan Keating had stolen her house and usurped her from her position as global head of EMI. She would be better than Johnson.

Also one of my old neighbours who conducted a really quite extensive retail survey in search of the perfect vest, with regular updates for anyone who expressed even a slight interest in the subject. He's dead now, sadly, but he would also do a better job.

Then there's the girl I went to school with who, having done a home perm, carried around a picture of Olivia Newton-John and checked it at regular intervals in order to ascertain the exact point at which her hair looked the same as Olivia's, a circumstance she was convinced would transpire imminently once the perm was in place. She too would do a better job.

Undoubtedly the same is true of most people in the UK.

cigiwi · 07/07/2022 14:01

As Boris and his acolytes (interminably) tell us, he was the only one who could have won that election victory as a Tory.

Now Boris has had to resign, essentially because his dyed-in-the-wool mendacity and innate lack of a moral sense have come - rightly - to be seen as deleterious to the common weal when possessed by a Prime Minister. (And also, perhaps, because people came to see the truth behind Tory lies.)

Put these two facts together. For Tories to gain power electorally they need a liar and a scoundrel as leader ... but it is a bad thing for the country when the Prime minister is a lying scoundrel.

In other words, any Tory leader, if capable of being elected as PM, will necessarily be a liar and a scoundrel, which will be a bad thing.

Is there a way out of this apparent conundrum? There is, of course.

Having lying scoundrels running the country is a bad thing that cannot be avoided if too many people vote Tory. So don't vote Tory. Ever.

TambourineOfRepentance · 07/07/2022 14:06

There's something festering at the back of my fridge which has probably developed a greater intelligence and conscientiousness than any of the current options.

In all seriousness, while none of the current conservative options would make good leaders, there's a fair few who could probably affect a greater veneer of professionalism while they continue running this country into the ground.

WatchoRulo · 07/07/2022 14:17

Why are people with "no intertest in politics" always Tories?

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