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To think the country is b*gg*r*d, and life as we once knew it is over?

330 replies

RejectedFleece · 06/07/2022 18:05

Just that really.

OP posts:
GyozaGuiting · 06/07/2022 18:39

This type of hyperbole isn't helpful.

Have you travelled Op?

plugee · 06/07/2022 18:39

For me its much more important than that, we have ever increasing poverty and more children in poverty, we have huge huge delays in waiting lists at all levels of the NHS, we have failing health, social and public services due to lack of investment, we have a broken housing system

This are my concerns

plugee · 06/07/2022 18:40

Why is everyone so okay that things are going backwards?

God knows

Why the fuck do we work five days a week if we can't even afford a holiday?

Some most long for Dickensian times!

bellac11 · 06/07/2022 18:42

MrsHughesPinny · 06/07/2022 18:31

You want to try being an immigrant woman living in a southern (Republican) US state at the moment. The UK is looking like utopia by comparison.

Are we comparing ourselves to backward countries now and congratulating ourselves that we're not quite that bad

Catfordthefifth · 06/07/2022 18:42

Cocacolacazza · 06/07/2022 18:39

Unfortunately the reality of some people's existence is that this has been the case in the 'glory days'. So imagine how shit its going to be for them now.

Well yes, quite. That's why we shouldn't just roll over and accept it. Its bizarre to me people just saying ah well poverty is okay. I imagine it's people who haven't ever experienced it.

We were poor during the "glory days" too. It was shit then and I thank my lucky stars we had our child when we did because we would be sinking in that position right now. Its not okay. Two ft wages should not put a family in poverty. Something has to give.

RudsyFarmer · 06/07/2022 18:43

We need to bring in euthanasia and be done with it. There’s so many people here who don’t want to be.

Catfordthefifth · 06/07/2022 18:43

plugee · 06/07/2022 18:40

Why is everyone so okay that things are going backwards?

God knows

Why the fuck do we work five days a week if we can't even afford a holiday?

Some most long for Dickensian times!

Yep it seems they do. They'll be suggesting we bring back the work houses next.

stargirl1701 · 06/07/2022 18:44

No, this just the ups and downs of life. It's no worse than the unemployment of the early 1980s or the negative equity of the mid 90s.

The only different thing that could end life as we know it that it coming is climate change.

Ncwinc · 06/07/2022 18:44

The economy will adjust, the sun will still rise, life will go on.

FortonServices · 06/07/2022 18:45

stargirl1701 · 06/07/2022 18:44

No, this just the ups and downs of life. It's no worse than the unemployment of the early 1980s or the negative equity of the mid 90s.

The only different thing that could end life as we know it that it coming is climate change.

Or Russia nuking us.

Itsbackagain · 06/07/2022 18:47

RejectedFleece · 06/07/2022 18:25

I am extremely old. I have lived through a lot. I believe that things are going to get much worse than we comprehend. Yes, others do have it much worse. But it's going to get very bad here too. Something is different this time. You can feel it.

I agree and it's very unsettling.

the80sweregreat · 06/07/2022 18:48

Lizzie , Who can get a grip though?
Starmer looks terrified at the prospect of taking on all shit too ( if he doesn't get the boot by a fixed penalty notice that is)
I didn't know about the billions that wasn't factored in for the benefits bills either , that is bad :( how on earth did that happen?
Keep on borrowing isn't a good idea either.
It is so grim but they also want tax cuts too!
I just don't understand how it all works , but I know it's not good.
Plus we are in for a heatwave too and I hate it too hot 🥵
It is depressing and like many people I feel a bit down about it all tbh

HauntingScream · 06/07/2022 18:48

jeffbezoz · 06/07/2022 18:18

If you don't watch the news it's bliss and you don't know whats going on x

True Smile I stopped listening to the radio on my commute and started listening to audiobooks instead, stopped watching the news and just read headlines once in a while, and I'm much less stressed and feel on an even keel emotionally.

Catfordthefifth · 06/07/2022 18:50

Ncwinc · 06/07/2022 18:44

The economy will adjust, the sun will still rise, life will go on.

Its probably quite easy to say that if you're not wondering how to feed your children or heat your house, isn't it?

slowquickstep · 06/07/2022 18:52

We have it not too bad here, many countries are in a much worse state than we are. Last week in Spain 16 paracetamol cost £6, bananas £1.80 a kilo ( if you can find them) and as for eating out, not a chance, a meal that was £15 a head 3 years ago is now £35

bellac11 · 06/07/2022 18:52

HauntingScream · 06/07/2022 18:48

True Smile I stopped listening to the radio on my commute and started listening to audiobooks instead, stopped watching the news and just read headlines once in a while, and I'm much less stressed and feel on an even keel emotionally.

I do understand that because I tell my OH off for 'doomscrolling' as they call it

But at the same time, that switching off leads to complacency and apathy and leads to the political system just carrying on as is, nothing being challenged or improved. I personally think this is what lead to brexit, people simply didnt understand what they were voting about.

Catfordthefifth · 06/07/2022 18:53

slowquickstep · 06/07/2022 18:52

We have it not too bad here, many countries are in a much worse state than we are. Last week in Spain 16 paracetamol cost £6, bananas £1.80 a kilo ( if you can find them) and as for eating out, not a chance, a meal that was £15 a head 3 years ago is now £35

I find the paracetamol hard to believe, I ended up needing prescription antibiotics in Spain last week and they didn't cost much more than that!

bellac11 · 06/07/2022 18:54

slowquickstep · 06/07/2022 18:52

We have it not too bad here, many countries are in a much worse state than we are. Last week in Spain 16 paracetamol cost £6, bananas £1.80 a kilo ( if you can find them) and as for eating out, not a chance, a meal that was £15 a head 3 years ago is now £35

Where were you in Spain? A few weeks ago my partner popped into a chemist in Madrid and paid the equivalent of about a quid for paracetamol, food was very cheap in the supermarkets too, and also eating out.

plugee · 06/07/2022 18:54

Yep it seems they do. They'll be suggesting we bring back the work houses next.

I assume they won't be having to go there but have no problem with others doing so.

RagzRebooted · 06/07/2022 18:54

FortonServices · 06/07/2022 18:22

@SavoirFlair

Falsely low food prices too. I don't mind if those that bought range rovers on credit have to sell them and buy a 2nd hand fiesta instead but I do worry about food prices going up, as there's no cheaper alternative to eating.

Food is cheap in this country though, as a percentage of incomes we spend much less on food than many other countries and than here in the past. Wages went up much faster than food prices over the last half a century or so.
The price rises now are still going to be difficult for people with absolutely no spare income, but that's because housing costs, fuel and other essentials (and not so essentials but things we are so used to they feel essential) have risen a lot more and take up a higher proportion of income. Food is still cheap here.

NannyGythaOgg · 06/07/2022 18:54

ColettesEarrings · 06/07/2022 18:11

Yes we have it a lot better than many, but the 'glory days' of the nineties and early 2000's are gone for good. Life is and will continue to be markedly tougher for most of us.

I was paying 14% interest on my mortgage in the 90s. Food was also a bigger proportion of my income and inflation was around 10% in 1990. And 25% at some stage in the 70s.

It's crap - but it has been worse
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TheYearOfSmallThings · 06/07/2022 18:54

Oh pish. All my life I've seen big drama on the news...life goes on very much as before. If I didn't watch the news I would have remained oblivious to 98% of it.

onmywayamarillo · 06/07/2022 18:54

justfiveminutes · 06/07/2022 18:14

When you are quite old, you have seen lots of recessions, armed conflicts and dire predictions. Those times always pass, just like the good times do too. We are in for a rough ride in terms of the economy, but will come out the other side.

Yes, it will right it's self in the end ! Don't despair just vote vote and vote some more

Catfordthefifth · 06/07/2022 18:55

@bellac11 I know you weren't asking me but we were in Majorca and it was just as cheap if not cheaper than the UK food wise. I don't recognize the experience of the pp, they must have stayed somewhere much posher than me Grin

FortonServices · 06/07/2022 18:57

Food is cheap in this country though, as a percentage of incomes we spend much less on food than many other countries and than here in the past.

That was my point. Food is going up in price hugely because food prices had been kept artificially low for years.

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