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To think you shouldn't be playing at Wimbledon if you have been charged with assault?

112 replies

AndNorrieDancing · 05/07/2022 13:50

'Kyrgios charged with common assault'

www.skysports.com/share/12646207

Combined with his on court behaviour including spitting at a fan and ignoring rules and decency.

Or does the fact that his draws interest and thus money mitigate his behaviour?

YABU he should be allowed to play

YANBU he should be removed from the Competition.

OP posts:
BlusteryLake · 06/07/2022 04:23

Kyrgios is an aggressive, attention seeking man child who is unable to control his anger. He reminds me of Lance Armstrong in his utter imperviousness to his actions and unpleasant bullying manner. That said, he hasn't yet been charged and I think it would be wrong to ban players before that point in an allegation. I am utterly unsurprised though, and hope that this does eventually lead to his exclusion from the sport.

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 04:58

I suppose some work-places might suspend him (on pay) as a neutral act, while the court case was pending. But this can’t be done with tennis players - he either plays or he doesn’t.

I agree with the pp that he comes across as a deeply unlikeable man. Well, to me he does. Arrogant, self-absorbed, and volatile. But he’s a wealthy tennis star so he’ll always be surrounded by people who adore him. I don’t think he’ll learn.

I suspect he’s going to be putting tournament after tournament in a very difficult position, especially if he is convicted, and they (and the tennis associations) need to get a collective grip on how they handle this player.

PeanutButterOnToad · 06/07/2022 06:12

I’m Australian and I think he is a total wanker. There is also never any excuse for DV. However being charged with assault does not mean he is guilty, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence until he is found guilty. As @SpinningForTheWorld says usually the solution would be for hm to be suspended until after the trial but in this case that isn’t an option. As things stand being a wanker is not illegal.

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 06:16

@PeanutButterOnToad I’ve been reading about how he helped to raise money in Australia following the really bad bush fires - did that help his image at home, do you think? Or do most people think (and still think) that he’s a wanker?

SlowHorses · 06/07/2022 07:01

Kyrgios is an aggressive, attention seeking man child who is unable to control his anger. He reminds me of Lance Armstrong in his utter imperviousness to his actions and unpleasant bullying manner. That said, he hasn't yet been charged and I think it would be wrong to ban players before that point in an allegation.

^^This

would also add despite him constantly complaining about his treatment he gets away with more than he should and far more than other players. Swearing and no point deduction, spitting etc. it’s disgusting. I hope the spectators are thoroughly on the side of Garin today and it kisses him off so he loses it again and can’t focus on the game.

SlowHorses · 06/07/2022 07:01

Pisses even!

MikeWozniaksMohawk · 06/07/2022 07:02

He’s been charged, not found guilty.

lollipoprainbow · 06/07/2022 07:09

Urgh can't abide Wimbledon and all it's smug middle classessness!!

balalake · 06/07/2022 07:15

He should have been kicked out of Wimbledon last week. The alleged crime is separate though the UK should support any extradition request.

Cherrysoup · 06/07/2022 07:15

Spitting=assault (it’s assault police if you spit at an officer). He’s an aggressive, unpleasant thug. As a sportsman in the public eye, he should not be allowed to get away with this behaviour. As pp have said, people have resigned due to poor behaviour.

MarshaBradyo · 06/07/2022 07:18

Kyrgios spits at a spectator, shouts at a ball boy and had two lines people complaining to the umpire about him and the BBC call him Box Office.

he’s awful but I find the BBC reaction odder. They are so excited he’s behaving like that

PeanutButterOnToad · 06/07/2022 07:19

@SpinningForTheWorld tbh I can’t really answer that, I tend to avoid sports coverage in the media (which is pretty difficult in Aus 😂). I was an avid tennis fan when I was younger and living your side of the world, and everyone loves Ash Barty so I was a bit more interested last year. If he helped raise money after the bushfires then I am sure it would have helped his public persona but there is little public appetite these days here for sports personalities who abuse.

Ahgoonyegirlye · 06/07/2022 07:20

I agree, but he hit ( allegedly) a woman he was in a relationship with rather than assaulting a man or someone else so there will be those who 1. Think that’s different 2. Say she’s made it up for money, attention, whatever 3. Think that being good a sport exonerates you from the normal
societal rules.

Ahgoonyegirlye · 06/07/2022 07:21

‘He’s been charged, not found guilty.’

and there we go. Hands up all those who think he’s innocent then?

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 07:25

MarshaBradyo · 06/07/2022 07:18

Kyrgios spits at a spectator, shouts at a ball boy and had two lines people complaining to the umpire about him and the BBC call him Box Office.

he’s awful but I find the BBC reaction odder. They are so excited he’s behaving like that

Totall agree about weird BBC. Clare Balding was a bloody embarrassment getting so excited during his match against Tsitsipas.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 06/07/2022 07:34

RichardMarxisinnocent · 05/07/2022 16:35

Do you also think they should have banned Alexander Zverev from last year's Wimbledon?

I’m not excusing Zverev’s alleged behaviour at all but unfortunately no one has charged him with anything as yet, and the ATP are dragging their heels over bringing in any kind of code of behaviour to mirror, say, those that the AFL have.

Equally, no action by the ATP was taken when Nikoloz Basilashvili was charged with assaulting his ex-wife a couple of years ago.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 06/07/2022 07:40

lollipoprainbow · 06/07/2022 07:09

Urgh can't abide Wimbledon and all it's smug middle classessness!!

Thanks for your contribution to the thread on whether a man who might be charged with common assault against his ex should be permitted to continue playing in a tennis tournament 🤨

PSG · 06/07/2022 07:49

Big tennis is entertainment and people like Kyrgios make it sell.
if he is convicted, the court will deal with him, not Wimbledon.

lollipoprainbow · 06/07/2022 07:54

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross Smile no I don't think he should be he sounds bloody vile! But it's Wimbledon isn't it, in all it's jolly hockey sticks glory so he gets away with it as he's such a good player HmmHmm

Laiste · 06/07/2022 08:33

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 07:25

Totall agree about weird BBC. Clare Balding was a bloody embarrassment getting so excited during his match against Tsitsipas.

Not watching it myself, but it's no surprise the BBC sports journalists are all excited. It's their bread and butter.

The fact we're all here talking about him is exactly the same reason. ''Baddies'' stir up interest. Easy head lines.

SnowyLamb · 06/07/2022 08:38

SavoirFlair · 05/07/2022 13:55

Wimbledon is in danger of becoming some sort of global moral weathervane the way people are carrying on.

First Russian players (who don't play under the flag or federation, they play for themselves) are banned. Now, we're asking for someone who has been charged with a possible offence thousands of miles away, to be suspended from a tournament while he's in the middle of it.

YABU. If you don't like his histrionics, that's fine. But his on-court behaviour is the responsibility of the tournament organisers - they've dealt with that (or not as the case may be). This new charge of common assault is something that will be dealt with in a court of law.

This is one reason why he should be banned.

They've taken a moral position over Russia, where the individuals bear no personal responsibility, but somehow this is OK?

I do agree the DV is only an allegation at this point, although lots of people would be suspended pending investigation, but there's all the other stuff too.

But as he says himself, people seem to love it. His matches are always well attended.

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 08:39

In the old days, Dan Maskell and Ann Jones would have been appalled by such behaviour (and often were), not excited by it. It was still very watchable television.

billy1966 · 06/07/2022 08:39

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 07:25

Totall agree about weird BBC. Clare Balding was a bloody embarrassment getting so excited during his match against Tsitsipas.

Agree with this.

She seemed to believe he brings excitement and entertainment to the game,🙄 when actually I think people just want to watch great tennis.

His behaviour is thugish to watch.
I didn't enjoy that game at all.

Naunet · 06/07/2022 08:43

it’s only common assault. Perhaps this anger is what makes him so fierce on the court, and that’s something we should be grateful for

Jesus Christ I hope you don’t have sons. If they ever smack your DiL around will you be telling her to be grateful too because it’s what makes him good at his job?

tigger1001 · 06/07/2022 09:01

Until he is found guilty it's innocent until proven guilty.

His behaviour on court is awful. However it drawn in fans and people love to talk about it. People love to watch him play in the hope he gets beat and kicks off. He draws crowds.

He is an incredibly talented player who doesn't love the sport. He should have got out of tennis a long time ago and pursued something he loves.

tsitsipas has been accused of cheating and is allowed to play. He also deliberately hit a ball into the crowd and faced no on court penalty for doing so. Kyrgios had a point about that.