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To think you shouldn't be playing at Wimbledon if you have been charged with assault?

112 replies

AndNorrieDancing · 05/07/2022 13:50

'Kyrgios charged with common assault'

www.skysports.com/share/12646207

Combined with his on court behaviour including spitting at a fan and ignoring rules and decency.

Or does the fact that his draws interest and thus money mitigate his behaviour?

YABU he should be allowed to play

YANBU he should be removed from the Competition.

OP posts:
ChinBristles · 05/07/2022 23:13

Those who are saying "innocent until proven guilty" - how would you feel if it was a rape/murder/terrorism charge?

And I'm really angry about his spokesperson saying "it (the alleged assault) was in the context of a domestic relationship". Like in the 80s when the police would say "it's only a domestic" (ie we'll take no action)

Wimbledon IS meant to be a place for gentlemanly conduct so his general bad behaviour on the tennis court should exclude him.

Glencanto · 05/07/2022 23:16

AndNorrieDancing · 05/07/2022 14:14

In other sports being charged results in being dropped from the team.

Not typically for common assault, which is at the ‘less serious’ end of the scale.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 05/07/2022 23:27

As someone upthread said, he hasn't been charged - the Australian system is different to the English one. That said, I find him to be a horrible, bullying, aggressive individual, and think the tennis authorities should be much harsher on him for his on court behaviour than they have been to date.

Tim Henman got disqualified for accidentally hitting a ball girl nearly 30yrs ago. How is spitting at a spectator less worthy of punishment?

EmmaH2022 · 05/07/2022 23:43

I agree charged is not convicted

but I was strikingly unsurprised when I heard this news. People like him really alarm me.

JaneJeffer · 05/07/2022 23:44

RichardMarxisinnocent · 05/07/2022 16:35

Do you also think they should have banned Alexander Zverev from last year's Wimbledon?

He was not charged with anything.

PortMac · 06/07/2022 00:00

I used to hate him and find him incredibly embarrassing but everyone is so caught up in bullshit, to see someone acting up can be quite entertaining.

Like when someone goes off in a shop, we all stare and then tell the story later.

What about John McEnroe, his behaviour was appalling and now everyone loves him.
I just think Kyrgios is playing a role and and got his head too far up his arse.
His interviews are quite funny I think.

As for Djokovic being a “far right anti vaxxer” ,the government at the time were being horrendous towards its own people, locked them down and people being sacked from jobs, they would be been even more hated if they’d allowed him in while we were being locked up.

It all seems to be forgotten now, more Covid than ever but no restrictions. It’s all wrong.

Florenz · 06/07/2022 00:09

There is no "team" to be dropped from in Tennis, the players are independent self-employed individuals. The footballers weren't banned by the Premier League or any other body, they were dropped by their team (ie their employer) and paid in full while the case was ongoing.

Florenz · 06/07/2022 00:12

To put it another way, if a woman who works in Asda is accused of hitting another woman in a pub on a Saturday night, should she be suspended from work with no pay until the case comes up in court?

JaneJeffer · 06/07/2022 00:12

What about John McEnroe, his behaviour was appalling and now everyone loves him.
He got angry about a few bad calls and the BBC acted like he was the devil incarnate. Kyrgios spits at a spectator, shouts at a ball boy and had two lines people complaining to the umpire about him and the BBC call him Box Office.

EmmaH2022 · 06/07/2022 00:17

Everyone doesn't love McEnroe.

Fizbosshoes · 06/07/2022 00:33

As far as his behaviour on court goes, Wimbledon has been dealing with this sort of shenanigans for decades - John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, Andy Roddick

I don't remember Andy Roddick behaving in a comparable way?

JaneJeffer · 06/07/2022 00:47

Andy Roddick only got one point penalty in his entire career fact fans.

onlythreenow · 06/07/2022 01:15

Absolutely agree. Kyrios is a vile, self- centered twat

So any sportsperson who you don't like shouldn't be allowed to play sport? Does this also apply to "vile, self-centred twats" in all other forms of employment?

PortMac · 06/07/2022 01:43

JaneJeffer · 06/07/2022 00:12

What about John McEnroe, his behaviour was appalling and now everyone loves him.
He got angry about a few bad calls and the BBC acted like he was the devil incarnate. Kyrgios spits at a spectator, shouts at a ball boy and had two lines people complaining to the umpire about him and the BBC call him Box Office.

True, you have a good point.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Kyrgios’ behaviour should be excused.

Willyoujustbequiet · 06/07/2022 02:06

Minimizing domestic violence as an earlier poster did is disgusting.

He is vile and should have been chucked out after the spitting incident.

avamiah · 06/07/2022 02:12

Has he been actually charged with assault or is it a allegation?

YesNoMaybeNot · 06/07/2022 02:14

onlythreenow · 06/07/2022 01:15

Absolutely agree. Kyrios is a vile, self- centered twat

So any sportsperson who you don't like shouldn't be allowed to play sport? Does this also apply to "vile, self-centred twats" in all other forms of employment?

People that spit at crowds, intimidate ball boys shouldn't be playing no.

YesNoMaybeNot · 06/07/2022 02:14

onlythreenow · 06/07/2022 01:15

Absolutely agree. Kyrios is a vile, self- centered twat

So any sportsperson who you don't like shouldn't be allowed to play sport? Does this also apply to "vile, self-centred twats" in all other forms of employment?

People that spit at crowds, intimidate ball boys shouldn't be playing no.

YesNoMaybeNot · 06/07/2022 02:14

avamiah · 06/07/2022 02:12

Has he been actually charged with assault or is it a allegation?

He's got a court date.

avamiah · 06/07/2022 02:45

@YesNoMaybeNot ,
Yes I have just read it as it’s all over the news .

In my opinion he comes across as a nasty bit of work but that’s not against the law however Domestic Abuse is.
I was prepared to give him the Benefit of the Doubt until News Reports state that he has a Court Date .

StartupRepair · 06/07/2022 03:04

I am not in any way shape or form defending Kyrgios but will point out that under Australian law he has not yet been charged but has received a summons.

onlythreenow · 06/07/2022 03:13

People that spit at crowds, intimidate ball boys shouldn't be playing no.

However, that wasn't the question asked in the OP.

Dishh · 06/07/2022 03:24

StartupRepair · 06/07/2022 03:04

I am not in any way shape or form defending Kyrgios but will point out that under Australian law he has not yet been charged but has received a summons.

I agree with @StartupRepair - he hasn't yet been charged with anything. It is a summons. As an Australian myself, I dislike Kyrgios intensely - the never-ending on-court dramas, and the disrespect he shows to other players, umpires, lines-people, ball-kids, the crowd, and the people is his own box. He could be a brilliant player, but he will never realise that as he can't control his emotions. He is too volatile. He sacked his own coach some years ago and has never found another one - he has been without a coach for a long time. He actually prefers basketball over tennis. There is a core disinterest there that shows in his playing.

Anyway, this is an allegation and not yet a reason to bar him from the tournament. He'll most likely lose the next match or so anyway. That volatility will win out.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 06/07/2022 03:29

Lonelygal22 · 05/07/2022 14:24

He’s an outstanding tennis player and good entertainment. I don’t see the problem here, it’s only common assault. Perhaps this anger is what makes him so fierce on the court, and that’s something we should be grateful for.

"only" common assault????

It's a case of domestic violence, not a punch up in the pub. Not that I'm condoning that either.

What if he was on a rape charge. Would that be OK as well?

SpidersAreShitheads · 06/07/2022 04:11

I think the fact that Kyrgios acts like such a deeply unpleasant individual in general, that it's very easy to get caught up in the emotion of this. I, like others on this thread, was saddened but not altogether surprised to hear a charge of common assault is being levied against him. Given his outbursts and displays of temper on court, it's not hard to imagine the accusation being true.

But personal feelings aside, it's only an allegation at present - no conviction.

Although any incident of domestic violence is truly awful, "common assault" doesn't usually warrant the individual being expelled from the sport. Presumably the sport will have a code of conduct which specifies the level of seriousness which would prevent participation.

I presume that rape/murder charges would preclude participation because in the scale of crimes, they're more "serious" than common assault. That doesn't mean domestic violence is OK or should be shuffled under the carpet. But plenty of people get to keep their jobs when convicted of common assault. I doubt many get to keep their jobs when convicted of murder or rape.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's a pig and I'd love to see him chucked out. It's no less than he deserves because he's just vile in general - and for some reason seems to get very light penalties for disgusting behaviour like spitting at a fan. But in the spirit of being fair, no, he probably shouldn't be chucked out on the basis of the pending investigation.