Does anyone believe Boris Johnson?

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Johnson is claiming that he didn't know there were any issues with Chris Pincher before he appointed him back to the office Chris had previous quit over allegations of sexual harassment. Ministers have been wheeled out to defend Johnson's lack of knowledge (again).

Is there anyone apart from Nadine Dorries who actually believes this?

YABU - I believe Boris
YANBU - Boris is lying again and taking us all for fools

Saw a clip of Raab on ITV news this morning "defending" the situation. Even given the extreme lowness of the bar for this crowd, it was shameful

I would support Her Majesty the Queen dismissing him.

Because they don’t have any other way of operating. It’s all they know. They won a referendum on it and the 2019 election and up until partygate it didn’t matter how big the lie or how contradictory the follow up lies were. The fact that everything was lies and people often knew they were lies didn’t really affect polling. After all, all politicians lie.

what I’d like to know is whether they actually have a competent PR/comms person whose advice is being ignored by Boris or whether the whole bunch of them are completely clueless and have no idea how to sort this out.

Brexit was a Fairy Tale. A small majority of people like the Fairy Tale so much that they don't care if it's built on fantasy nonsense claims.

He's going to lose his seat at the next GE anyway, you'd think he'd have stopped caring by now.

Reviving this thread to say that he's now been found guilty of deliberately misleading MP's. Wonder how much that has cost us, the public to find out what was blatantly obvious?

Don’t knock it, it’s got rid of him.

Now we just need to get rid of the rest of them.....

Agreed.

Let's be honest, there's relatively few of them would know what "telling the truth" meant if you gave them the definition etched in stone. Ignoring all the other lies (too many to count), remember that our current PM also managed to not understand the laws about pandemic parties despite having been involved in passing them. Funny how we all understood them when so few Tory MP's did.

What I find interesting is the way that his downfall is coinciding with that of trump's, he really is Britain's trump.
Or is trump America's Boris?

Both are appalling and both have supporters that will seemingly believe any old tosh they come up with.

6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

They are both cut from the same mould.

The only difference is that in the US, the DoJ has teeth and may end up putting Trump behind bars (and not of the nightlife type) for his transgressions/illegal activities.

It was so obvious to anyone that he was lying. He stood up and read out the rules that his government compiled in relation to social distancing and meeting at park benches etc. during lockdowns. He read them out. He spoke out loud and read them off an auto-cue but his government put them together.
He cannot string a coherent sentence together. He fluffs and bumbles his way through life and he must have some amount of dirt on so many of his former colleagues so that he got elected in the first place.

I'd say Theresa May is sitting high on the hog (oops - shouldn't mention pigs in relation to members of the Conservative Party) but all of this happened after her tenure.

I think a valid question now, that it's been found out that he did in fact lie, is should any further measures for Brexit be continued or whether the UK should seek to rejoin the EU. He lied about lockdowns, what is to say that he hadn't lied about the stuff he said about Brexit (hint - he did)

The whole point about Johnson is that he's a liar. Lots of people saw that. They still voted for him. Who are the real idiots? That would be us, living with the consequences of such shit decision making.

Some may have known that he was a liar many found it inconceivable that someone so well spoken (ie posh) and apparently intellectual would behave so badly.
He is a con man, part of his skill set is knowing exactly what he can get away with and with whom, but of course hubris got him in the end.

DH has said that the only thing that could make him happier today is if there was a coup in Russia

I find it ridiculous that there were so many people in positions of power who did not say exactly what he was like.

Nobody in Westminster who worked with him was surprised at what happened and how he behaved.

He was always like this.

I just find it remarkable that there are still tory mps defending him today. The revolting reece-mogg implying the report would be very different if Harriet Harman had recused herself is quite mind-bogglingly stupid and patronising.

I'm American, but live in the UK, so can more often be found on the throw-trump-in-jail thread, but what I'm having trouble understanding is why it was ok when he was lying to the public, but not ok when he's lying to Parliament? They stood by for years while he lied and lied and lied.

A truly good use of rezzing a zombie in my view

He's still an arsehole

Why would anyone ever believe Johnson?

He's spent his life lying to everyone, professionally and personally.

He's a compulsive liar.🙄

His whole MO is to change the detail to fit his narrative, is hugely self-centred and interested only in being right for personal gain that he spews out lie upon lies upon lies with impunity.
So no, I don't believe him on this, or on anything else, and never will. He's dishonest, untrustworthy, immoral and egocentric to the point of absurdity.

Yep, the man's a lying bag of lies. I truly pity his children.

I’m with him there.

Never forget the cynical use of his hairstyle. Serious statement, combed(ish) hair. Trying to be affable and the pm that was just a fluffy, puppy of a man, messy hair. Don't know how noticed that was at the time but if you watch him at PMQ's it was blatant.
Also FPTP gave us all this life wasting governments. The actual number of votes would not deliver us this tory mess that we've had for far too long. Before I get told lab wouldn't be better, I agree. A broad coalition would be far better. Starmer wants to bring back the worst of bliarism. The policies of labour under corbyn would have been healthier for the country. Renationalising services would be a good way to save us money to begin with.