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Does anyone believe Boris Johnson?

99 replies

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 10:32

Johnson is claiming that he didn't know there were any issues with Chris Pincher before he appointed him back to the office Chris had previous quit over allegations of sexual harassment. Ministers have been wheeled out to defend Johnson's lack of knowledge (again).

Is there anyone apart from Nadine Dorries who actually believes this?

YABU - I believe Boris
YANBU - Boris is lying again and taking us all for fools

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IncompleteSenten · 04/07/2022 13:02

I wouldn't believe Johnson if he told me what the time was.

SisyphusDad · 04/07/2022 13:08

Are his lips moving?

Then no, I don't.

Andifin · 04/07/2022 20:06

Story slowly changing the message again around Pincher. Boris didn’t know, Boris had some awareness. …

This government take us for fools. Gaslighting at it’s finest, sadly.

StripeyDeckchair · 04/07/2022 20:17

Everything Johnson says or does is to further his own ends, to make him moeny (directly or indirectly), he has a long history of lying, deception & obfuscation.

I am ashamed that he is PM of thus country, I fundamentally disagree with many of the policies & laws the tory government has enacted and I am astonished that there are not riots demanding the removal of this government.

Kendodd · 04/07/2022 20:18

So if most people now can see that Johnson lies non stop, have they realised that he sold a pack of lies about Brexit? Or are people still believing those lies he told? Wasn't even the EU straight bananas a lie made up by Johnson?

Acaseofthemondays · 04/07/2022 20:52

It has been proven time and time again that the man is a liar and a fraud.

QuebecBagnet · 04/07/2022 21:02

Agree with the majority that he’s a proven liar and it’s therefore now very difficult to believe anything he says. Which is why he should have resigned. What use is a prime minister that the public don’t believe. 🤷‍♀️

Imgettingdesparatehere · 04/07/2022 21:06

He clearly has someone's backing and. Powerful protectors, most likely wealthy donors to the party. He lies we know he lies and he knows we know, he has the brass neck to live with it. He is there because he was believed to be the only contender who could deliver brexit. He will be gone when he is no longer useful to those who have the power to remove him,but he will leave a legacy showing the level of dishonesty and corruption we will tolerate.

SausageinaBun · 04/07/2022 21:08

What confuses me is why lie and then gradually backtrack when the information is so widely known that the lie was unbelievable? I get lying about something that isn't widely known and hoping to get away with it (though don't condone it). But lying was never going to work in this case.

ApplesandBunions · 04/07/2022 21:17

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 12:01

He'd been Prime Minister for about 5 months by then, it was the Conservative party who originally made him Prime Minister.

I agree that the choice offered in December 2019 was dire, but that wasn't the fault of the electorate, rather the respective parties.

Yup. It's the fault of the Tories and only the Tories that Johnson ever ended up in Downing Street. We the general public were powerless to prevent his accession, and it was obvious by the time they chose to install him exactly what he was.

He won't be long now though. Dead man walking.

TokyoSushi · 04/07/2022 22:21

Shocked I tell you!

Does anyone believe Boris Johnson?
Bagzzz · 04/07/2022 22:38

Yadnbu
Still the 3% believe BJ - I’d be interested he hear why.

AndAllOurYesterdays · 05/07/2022 07:17

The thing is, he just elongates these negative stories by lying. We've had days of 'no he didn't know anything' turning into 'well, there were those rumours' before the evidence finally emerges that proves what we all knew all along. His Comms team must despair

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2022 07:34

The entire political news cycle is just whatever Boris Johnson's latest deceit/corruption is that he needs people to go out and lie for him over.

If he quit, we might actually be able to have a functional government start to sort out some of the issues facing the country.

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noblegiraffe · 05/07/2022 07:37

And Boris is still lying. A peer has just published a letter to the standards committee saying that there was a complaint in 2019 against Pincher, it was upheld, and Johnson was briefed in person.

twitter.com/simonmcdonalduk/status/1544206976820854784?s=21&t=Tsc9nNePEAX0VjJDSlAKrQ

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GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 05/07/2022 07:53

I wouldn't believe Johnson if he told me the time.

itsgettingweird · 05/07/2022 08:05

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2022 07:34

The entire political news cycle is just whatever Boris Johnson's latest deceit/corruption is that he needs people to go out and lie for him over.

If he quit, we might actually be able to have a functional government start to sort out some of the issues facing the country.

Agree 100%.

Wasn't it when the Cummings stuff happened there was a line about "when you become the news ....."

That's not been trotted out for a while but couldn't be more relevant imo.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/07/2022 08:11

HerRoyalHappiness · 03/07/2022 11:01

The man's a compulsive liar. If he told me the sky was blue I'd need to verify it myself

Absolutely

if he told me my eyes were blue I’d have to go and check

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 05/07/2022 09:31

TimBoothseyes · 03/07/2022 11:21

Yet another lie he thinks we're all stupid enough to fall for.

Unfortunately, you only have to look at the responses to any political story on Mumsnet/Twitter/Facebook/etc to see that a fair chunk of the population either do fall for it, don't care about it, or find it endearing.

I really wish there was some sort of mechanism in place that ensured the people who voted for a party were the ones to bear the brunt of any negative consequences from said party's rule. I'd even be willing to agree to them also being first in the queue for any benefits (not that the average person would ever see one from a tory government).

stayingpositiveifpossible · 05/07/2022 10:10

Of course I believe him. He is the Prime Minister and he does his best poor mite.

(The fact that so many people (in and out of work) are having to go to food banks - choose between heating and eating etc - has got nothing to do with him.) These people are obviously not working hard enough perhaps they could stop having baths/showers etc. Therefore joining the great unwashed.

Let them eat cake (currently Mr. Kipling cheapest on offer at Iceland mind - though you have to watch that as there are currently only three in the packet rather than fiv....etc)

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2022 10:23

One wonders why Mr Pincher bothered resigning this time when it appears he has got away with similar in the past with no consequence.

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howdoesatoastermaketoast · 05/07/2022 10:24

balalake · 03/07/2022 10:58

I would check a calendar if he told me today is Sunday, as I would not be sure he was telling the truth.

If Boris told me it was definitely definitely for sure wasn't my father I would instantly call my mother and scream what the hell!

Summertimesunshineandfizz · 05/07/2022 10:27

If his lips are moving he’s lying. What mystifies me is the number of women who’ve believed him for long enough to have his children.

PolkaDotMankini · 05/07/2022 10:34

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 11:46

4 people have voted that they believe Boris!

I have a bridge I'd like to sell them...

That'll be Nadine name changing again.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 05/07/2022 10:36

Johnson won’t even admit to how many children he has. His whole persona is built on lies. I’m not even sure that he has any concept of the truth.