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Does anyone believe Boris Johnson?

99 replies

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 10:32

Johnson is claiming that he didn't know there were any issues with Chris Pincher before he appointed him back to the office Chris had previous quit over allegations of sexual harassment. Ministers have been wheeled out to defend Johnson's lack of knowledge (again).

Is there anyone apart from Nadine Dorries who actually believes this?

YABU - I believe Boris
YANBU - Boris is lying again and taking us all for fools

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noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 11:46

4 people have voted that they believe Boris!

I have a bridge I'd like to sell them...

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balalake · 03/07/2022 11:51

To answer the question as to why we ended up with him, the alternative at the time was a former IRA sympathiser whose manifesto seemed not credible, and who sat on the fence over Brexit.

PollenHigh · 03/07/2022 11:55

He’s either telling the truth, in which case he’s clueless, incompetent, and doesn’t vet people properly. Or he’s lying.

I’d go with the latter.

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/07/2022 11:59

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 11:46

4 people have voted that they believe Boris!

I have a bridge I'd like to sell them...

I’d like to hear their reasons why they think YABU.

Ncwinc · 03/07/2022 11:59

Who could possibly believe Boris Johnson about anything.

Ncwinc · 03/07/2022 12:00

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 11:46

4 people have voted that they believe Boris!

I have a bridge I'd like to sell them...

A garden bridge?

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 12:01

balalake · 03/07/2022 11:51

To answer the question as to why we ended up with him, the alternative at the time was a former IRA sympathiser whose manifesto seemed not credible, and who sat on the fence over Brexit.

He'd been Prime Minister for about 5 months by then, it was the Conservative party who originally made him Prime Minister.

I agree that the choice offered in December 2019 was dire, but that wasn't the fault of the electorate, rather the respective parties.

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noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 12:09

Anna Soubry hinted at knowing there were problems with him from the early days when they joined Parliament so old news, and therefore common knowledge

This would fit about Johnson too, tbf. The party knew what they were getting.

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ilovesooty · 03/07/2022 12:44

Ncwinc · 03/07/2022 11:59

Who could possibly believe Boris Johnson about anything.

3% of the poll inexplicably do.

Neolara · 03/07/2022 12:46

I know nothing about this particular incident, but given past performance, I obviously wouldn't believe a word he says about anything.

WatchoRulo · 03/07/2022 12:55

"Former adviser Dominic Cummings said the prime minister had referred to the MP “laughingly in No 10 as ‘Pincher by name, pincher by nature’ long before appointing him.”"

Whoareyoutojudge · 03/07/2022 13:21

Is his mouth moving…..then yes he is lying.

YankeeDad · 03/07/2022 13:21

I believe Boris.

Is a liar!

Whoops, I inserted the full-stop by mistake

LizzieW1969 · 03/07/2022 13:36

Whoareyoutojudge · 03/07/2022 13:21

Is his mouth moving…..then yes he is lying.

My thoughts exactly. Of course it’s a lie!!

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 13:57

Even the Mail don't believe him.

Does anyone believe Boris Johnson?
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Gilead · 03/07/2022 14:13

To answer the question as to why we ended up with him, the alternative at the time was a former IRA sympathiser whose manifesto seemed not credible, and who sat on the fence over Brexit
I can’t believe anyone still reads The Fail.
Interestingly, the u turns that this government have followed have generally been the policy of the Labour Party.

lljkk · 03/07/2022 14:39

Truth or Accuracy, are basically irrelevant to BJ. He is just after a persuasive story in the end. Useful if he can insert some truths into what he wants to say, I suppose.

jetadore · 03/07/2022 14:42

Fucking hell, come on

ghostyslovesheets · 03/07/2022 14:49

He's 'my' MP - it's been common gossip for years that he's a handsy twat with a drink problem and an issue with keeping his hands of men - I know - loads of people knew - he's been accused of it before ffs - of course BJ KNEW!

Ncwinc · 03/07/2022 15:18

It would be an interesting by-election.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 03/07/2022 16:58

PollenHigh · 03/07/2022 11:55

He’s either telling the truth, in which case he’s clueless, incompetent, and doesn’t vet people properly. Or he’s lying.

I’d go with the latter.

Both of these options are true.

Andifin · 03/07/2022 17:31

Of course BJ is a liar…

Pincher needs to resign…..but of course BJ is terrified of another by-election.

Usual BJ stance, lie and hope it ‘blows over’.

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 21:10

Ncwinc · 03/07/2022 15:18

It would be an interesting by-election.

2 sexual misconduct by-elections in a short space of time doesn’t look great. 3 and there’s a distinct pattern forming that makes you wonder what the fuck is going on in the Conservative party.

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Isitsixoclockalready · 03/07/2022 21:33

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2022 21:10

2 sexual misconduct by-elections in a short space of time doesn’t look great. 3 and there’s a distinct pattern forming that makes you wonder what the fuck is going on in the Conservative party.

Arrogance.

DuncinToffee · 04/07/2022 12:59

No 10

“PM was aware of media reports that others had seen over the years & some allegations that were either resolved or did not progress to a formal complaint, but at the time of the appointment of the deputy chief whip he was not aware of any specific allegations,” says PM spox
PM spokesperson also says the PM sought advice b4 appointing Pincher & says this: “At the time the PM was not aware of any specific allegations. In the absence of any formal complaint it wasn’t deemed appropriate to stop the appointment because of any unsubstantiated allegations”

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