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To have swapped the swede?

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Swedesareneeps · 27/06/2022 09:55

DS has ASD and I screwed his noodle this morning by not having available for his lunchbox The Correct Midmorning School Snack of a lump of raw swede.

So on the way home from school I stopped in at the poncy local shop and bought the only swede they had. It cost £1.05, which seemed a lot for food you usually feed to sheep, but autism I love him. Especially seeing as it had a very small crossection cut off the side (50p size) and the start of a brown bit within that, that would need to be cut off before DS would see it.

I'd also failed to buy DH's preferred cereal option but poncy local shop didn't have it so I took a long cut home to stop in Sainsbury's local to see if they had it, because I love him too (and as we all know true love is varyingly oral sex or buying preferred cereal - I'll leave it to you which leaves a better taste in your mouth). They had a better selection of Swedes at a slightly more reasonable 80p.

Would I have been unreasonable to have swapped my £1.05 swede for another at 80p? It wasn't any bigger but maybe a little better.

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Pinkfluff76 · 29/06/2022 09:58

No grown up should be eating cereal and yes it is theft. You can’t go round swapping stuff you prefer. Imagine if your neighbour did that with your car. Ffs

Misty333 · 29/06/2022 10:03

I’m from the north of England and I was brought up to say turnip for the yellow/orange looking one.

balalake · 29/06/2022 10:14

I don't eat swede, hate it. Glad to know my abstinence helps someone, OP.

Lougle · 29/06/2022 10:22

When you buy something from the shop you enter into a contract. If you unilaterally decide to swap a product out, you have not entered into a contract. You have stolen a product and left litter (the 'identical product') in its place.

TrashyPanda · 29/06/2022 11:50

HaveringWavering · 27/06/2022 11:09

Didn’t you see the Scottish flag? What English people call a Swede, we call a turnip in Scotland (or neep, so going by OP’s username I figured she was Scottish and would get the joke).

Swede/ Turnip is on a lot of Scottish recipes so we’ve earned the right to call it whatever we like.

What you call a turnip we call White Turnip or baby turnip or something, but they aren’t very common.

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Totally agree.

everyone knows that the veg in “haggis and neeps” is orange. Because turnips are orange.

Mirw · 29/06/2022 17:26

A Swede comes from Sweden.

In Scotland, a swede is a neep. A turnip can be a neep or a turnip depending on what you do with it, where you come from in Scotland and your age.

Swapping one neep for another bought elsewhere is theft of the second one, no matter you bought the first one. No difference if you had asked the manager. You were taking something from Sainsbury that you hadn't paid for in Sainsbury. It is called shoplifting...

HaveringWavering · 29/06/2022 19:34

Ahardyfool · 29/06/2022 09:26

Hold on! I cannot be arsed to RTFT, much in the same way I couldn't be arsed to pay attention in (Home Economics? Biology?) lessons... I also have 4 autistic children so it's not like I have time on my hands either...

Are we saying that a swede and a turnip are the same thing? I spent time during the winter months hunting down turnip for a recipe and nobody had any. I may have quipped to the staff on the veg aisle about their extinction from supermarkets and our demise as humans in no longer celebrating some of this wholesome, traditional, humble veg. I fear I may now be facing some serious 'after the event' shame and embarrassment and need to KNOW NOW!

@Ahardyfool it depends (a) which country you were in and (b) what country the recipe was from. If your recipe was written by a Scottish or Irish person it’s quite possible you were meant to use swede. But there are lots and lots of recipes for the small white vegetable that English people call turnips.

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Swedesareneeps · 29/06/2022 22:29

AchatAVendre · 28/06/2022 10:57

Strange thread. OK I'll bite. I got from it attention seeking for your wanting to push boundaries of whats legal and whats not. The above verbosity appears to confirm that. So you've got a bit of wanting to challenge professional perspectives on whats permissable and argue about it. Mild shock value. Little bit of a thrill. Showing off that you are not a thief because you are replacing like with like. That sort of thing.

Legally, the item on the shelf is an invitation to treat, an offer to sell the displayed item for an agreed price. Removing said item and replacing it with another does not cause ownership to change because the item has not been sold or otherwise transferred to the new owner. You have had no contact with Sainsburys to get them to agree to this. You bought the item and retain ownership. I'm sure you are aware of all of this. When you took the new swede that was theft because you didn't pay the agreed price and had no agreement with the seller to exchange it. It is a red herring that the old swede cost more.

Odd that you are in Scotland and refer to a swede but the law is similar here in all vital aspects.

Mild concerns about how much this swede has been handled before being placed for sale in another shop. What an odd thing to do. There, are you satisfied?

Please don't take any more items from other shops and swap them about.

I honestly don't take ideas for exam questions from here

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Yes, generally pretty satisfied - thanks. I'm not sure I was verbose, but perhaps you're a better judge of that. I was thinking of it more as Everyday Ethics than as criminal law, but every day is a learning day and your response was very educational. If you rtft, I didn't swap them but more from a general moral reasoning rationale than a criminal law one.

Just one thing: I called it a swede so people would understand what I meant - Scots generally know that other people call neeps swedes, but not all non-scots know that a neep or turnip is what they'd call a swede.

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HaveringWavering · 29/06/2022 23:27

Just one thing: I called it a swede so people would understand what I meant - Scots generally know that other people call neeps swedes, but not all non-scots know that a neep or turnip is what they'd call a swede.

When I said “YABU” for calling it a swede it was supposed to be a lighthearted mutual wink at the fact I realised that you were also Scottish and would have done exactly as you describe above. I’m not sure why everyone seems to think that I was genuinely accusing you of unreasonableness…

By the way, to me the Scots word “neep” is a colloquial expression, akin to “tattie”. So to my mind your Granny might say “eat your neeps and tatties” but if you were talking to your teacher at school you’d say “we had mashed turnip and potatoes last night”. The use of Scots in more formal situations has, I think, increased since I left Scotland as a young adult in the late 90s though, so maybe neep is used more than it used to be?

HaveringWavering · 30/06/2022 01:00

@Swedesareneeps I presume you also said swede because there is no alliteration in swapped and turnip 😀.

Pluvia · 30/06/2022 09:45

Swedesareneeps · 29/06/2022 22:29

Yes, generally pretty satisfied - thanks. I'm not sure I was verbose, but perhaps you're a better judge of that. I was thinking of it more as Everyday Ethics than as criminal law, but every day is a learning day and your response was very educational. If you rtft, I didn't swap them but more from a general moral reasoning rationale than a criminal law one.

Just one thing: I called it a swede so people would understand what I meant - Scots generally know that other people call neeps swedes, but not all non-scots know that a neep or turnip is what they'd call a swede.

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It certainly has been very educational. Next time I'm at a dull dinner party I'll pose this question. At the very least it'll reveal those with a sense of humour.

WhoWants2Know · 30/06/2022 10:20

I want to know about the bit where she asked what it is if you have an unopened Diet Coke and leave it in another shop. Is that littering?

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