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To not want to buy this tightwad a drink?

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Homewardbound2022 · 24/06/2022 14:01

I play a group sport regularly and it is customary to buy drinks for one's playing partners afterwards. For the last three years since I've known her, one woman has never put her hand in her pocket. She will quite happily accept drinks but doesn't buy her round. My feeling is that if she can afford this activity, she can stretch to a few extra euros for drinks, if not she should just go home straight after! I've already been caught out twice by her but that was in the innocent early days and now I know her MO.
Anyway, on Monday I have the misfortune of playing with her (and two men) and am already wondering how I can avoid buying this seasoned tightwad a drink or to shame her into pulling out her purse.
Any suggestions?

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LMCOA · 30/06/2022 04:24

You say that this is an expensive sport. Is it possible that this is the only activity that she can afford? Is it possible that the time in the bar after is the only social interaction she gets all week?

I would be kinder than everyone else has suggested. I'd probably have a quiet chat, say that you've noticed that she doesn't buy a round and ask if there is a reason and if there is anything people can do to help.

If it turns out that she is, indeed just a tightwad, then that will be pretty clear - and she will know that people are on to her.

Please don't go in on the offensive if you don't know this person's story.

echt · 30/06/2022 04:29

LMCOA · 30/06/2022 04:24

You say that this is an expensive sport. Is it possible that this is the only activity that she can afford? Is it possible that the time in the bar after is the only social interaction she gets all week?

I would be kinder than everyone else has suggested. I'd probably have a quiet chat, say that you've noticed that she doesn't buy a round and ask if there is a reason and if there is anything people can do to help.

If it turns out that she is, indeed just a tightwad, then that will be pretty clear - and she will know that people are on to her.

Please don't go in on the offensive if you don't know this person's story.

Even if this was the case, it's no reason to expect to be funded by others.

LMCOA · 30/06/2022 04:59

Correct. But she may be utterly humiliated and not know how to bring the subject up.

Sswhinesthebest · 30/06/2022 06:24

Oh no I was looking forward to her reaction.

BlackAndPinkNose · 30/06/2022 07:44

LMCOA you are very generous and understanding...But if she really couldn't afford it due to circumstances, then she could just go home rather than freeloading off others.

RampantIvy · 30/06/2022 08:21

Like Eelicks I drink at a different rate from other people, and am often driving, so I always say "I'll just get my own thank you". I always buy whoever is driving me a drink though as it's only fair.

Eeksteek · 30/06/2022 09:39

Interesting. I’ve no opinion on this person, but as someone who is flat, flat broke I’m acutely aware there is always, always going to be perceived inequality in this custom.

Maybe she can afford the sport, but only afford the the sport. Everyone has a limit somewhere. It’s a bit ridiculous to say if she can afford the sport, she can afford a drink. If she has £32.44 left at the end of the week, and the sport costs £32, she can afford tennis, but not a drink. If she sees people blithely buying each other drinks all the time, she may feel there’s a lot of money around and a drink doesn’t seem like a lot to ‘take’ from a community to her. Maybe lots of people know something you don’t, and have said ‘no no, Barbara, we wouldn’t see you pay’ over and over. Maybe she arranges all the draws or contributes in some dull and unseen way. Maybe the rest of the group doesn’t feel it’s a lot to be subsidising her, for some reason. Maybe she buys drinks when she can, and you’ve just never happened to spot it. It’s a horrible, horrible position to be in. Lots of people insist on buying me drinks, or coffee or whatever, and I can’t ever reciprocate and frankly it sucks. Knowing what it’s ok to accept and not knowing when, or if an reciprocal offer is expected. Or who will see it as buying a drink for a skint mate, and who sees you as being a tightwad, and at what point they from one to another. My cousin’s family, for example, easily earns ten times what I did last year. Her buying me a drink (on top of her double g and t, her OH’s craft beer and organic soft drinks for her 3 kids) is not even noticeable. Literally, there is NO consequence to their budget. If I bought a round back, that would be more than my food budget for the week. Obviously, the logical solution is that I buy one in five rounds, but that’s never going to be practical. We would rarely have five rounds. I’ll never reminder from one occassion to the next. Especially if when someone casually says, ‘oh, grab the kids some crisps, will you?’ means my card will be declined. Roughly even isn’t going to be ok for me - I don’t have any budget flexibility. I need to know what I’m spending before I known if I can go. To the penny.

Sometimes I go and drink tap water. But that’s not always obvious to everyone. Who just sees it as never getting a round in. Sometimes I’d love a drink, with actual people, but I can just about buy a cheap one. Its very isolating to know you need to accept charity, because your friends do want to help you, but only as much as they are comfortable with, not to expect it and be appropriately grateful, but not gushingly awkward. And all without a word being spoken. And people will insist, not having even an inkling that pennies count for some people.

This awkward, anxious, entirely silent minefield means I just don’t go to a lot of things, because even if the activity is affordable, the incidentals may not be. And it’s no fun mentally totting up your social debt all the time. It’s easier to go with friends where everyone pays for their own individually and you can control what you spend without any social consequences.

In these circumstances I would drink tap water. But eventually, I think I’d feel so uncomfortable I’d stop going. A round system is fine, if everyone feels it’s equitable, but it can also easily be deeply awkward if your circumstances vary. My impression was that it was a bit old hat, too.

MallowMagic · 30/06/2022 10:13

I can't afford rounds so I never accept. I usually have lime and soda in a wine glass, looks like wine but costs a fraction of the price.

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Homewardbound2022 · 30/06/2022 11:48

@Eeksteek thank you for your thoughts and observations. I do sympathise with your particular circumstances which sound tough and I hope things improve for you at some point.

I have already played twice with the woman I mention, not alone but with one or two others. On neither occasion did she offer a drink but did accept. When I am sitting near her, I can observe her behaviour and have never seen her buy a drink either for herself or others.

Sometimes I cannot stay long after a game so I tell my playing partners I'll get the drinks in as I have to dash off. We don't match round for round because each time we're mixed up with different people but it all balances out, except for people like her!

I'm not going to speak privately to her, nor will I say a word to others who may not have noticed or are bothered. Also, I'm a newish member (3 yrs) and don't want to be seen as a troublemaker.

What I will do though, if I find myself in her playing group again, is to make a comment about getting a round in, if only to make it clear to her that I've clocked her behaviour and I'm not a total mug!!

I'm a generous person but I'm not an idiot!

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Luxa · 30/06/2022 11:54

Have a word with her individually, rather than pointedly shaming her in front of everyone. Say that you've noticed she never buys the drinks and you wanted to suggest she buys a round regularly so it doesn't always fall on everyone else.

She could be socially awkward or shy, and find it hard to ask people if they'd like a drink. Or it might not have crossed her mind for whatever reason. Social niceties aren't understood by everyone automatically.

Start by having a quiet word with her.

GU24Mum · 30/06/2022 12:06

Personally, rather than challenging her or silently seething, I'd be up front and ask the group if anyone wants to do rounds and who'd prefer to sort their own drinks out. That way it's fine for someone to drop out of the round with an unspoken acknowledgment that if they do that, they can't only drop out of their turn, they're opting out of the whole thing.

queenmabb · 30/06/2022 14:42

What about following her lead and bowing out as well? Stop getting in rounds. They've said nothing to her.

BMW6 · 30/06/2022 14:50

But if you're skint and can't afford rounds you surely say so and buy just your own!

You don't accept drinks knowing you can't return the gesture. That's really bad manners IMO.

Homewardbound2022 · 30/06/2022 17:34

@GU24Mum I like this approach! Might be my favourite so far!

@BMW6 Totally agree with you.

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ZarquonsSandals · 30/06/2022 22:33

BMW6 · 30/06/2022 14:50

But if you're skint and can't afford rounds you surely say so and buy just your own!

You don't accept drinks knowing you can't return the gesture. That's really bad manners IMO.

Completely agree.
The woman may well be skint but it's really rude to keep accepting drinks and never offer.

Homewardbound2022 · 01/07/2022 20:15

Well today, totally unexpectedly, this topic came up while I was playing with two men, both members of our regular group!

Man A "Walter" commented to me under his breath about Man B "John" : John never buys a drink. Nor does "Tim" (not present today)
Me (seizing the moment): there are some others like that. "Tightwad" never buys a drink either.
Man A (late 60s): Really? Well, women aren't expected to buy drinks in our sport.
Me (slack-jawed): Walter, this is 2022 not 1952. If you're happy to accept a drink, you should be ready to offer one.
Walter: "True" (with a shrug of the shoulders).

Suspected he didn't want to pursue the conversation!

Walter has accepted plenty drinks from me and never once said "Marjorie, put your purse away. The men will take care of this!"

Anyway, some food for thought.

Regardless of this prehistoric convention, I will never buy Tightwad another drink. She has accepted drinks from me, a woman, and never returned the compliment.

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