Women are now womb carriers

[Callingoccupants]

Women are being attacked, again. A long standing publishing company, Verso Books, has decided women should be referred to as womb carriers. Can it get any worse? Will try and provide a link.

I saw this on Twitter yesterday and it is beyond vile. It's very revealing that these wokeistas save the worst of their misogyny for ethnic minorities. Glad they have taken it down but there is no excuse for ever sending a tweet like that. Unspeakable

Exactly. I don't carry my womb anymore than I carry my heart and lungs. (Maybe they do fit the actual definition of carry, I'm not sure)

But if women are womb carriers are men dick carriers? Testicle carriers? Their dick and balls are in their hands (which I think is more 'carrying' than something which is inside) more often than my womb is in mine. Which is never.

Womb carriers sounds like something straight out of the Handmaid's tale.

so let me get this straight, I as an actual woman am now referred to as a 'womb carrier', so the word 'woman' is now reserved for trans identifying males? WTAF?

Perhaps natal men should be known as ejaculators?

Can't have it both ways, transphobes. Either your cervix is defining or it isn't

Let me explain this as carefully as I can. Not all women have a cervix, but only women have a cervix.

Yes, our biology doesn't define us obviously, however it is something that we all share, regardless of gender feelings.

Remove anything to do with female biology from the word "woman", and woman now becomes an identity word that belongs to anyone men

Woo woo believers would say it's nothing to do with that, it's to cover all identities that share the same biology, but that's complete BS to be honest, because hardly ever are males referred to as prostate havers, or penis owners, or people with testicles. They still get to be men. The twitter activists would lose their shit if people referred to TW as people with prostates. It would be all how dare we deny their gender identity of woman?!!

Transmen on the other hand, apparently have to be fine and dandy with things like "cervix owner", or "person with a vagina", yep not denying their gender identity at all, just being "inclusive" 🤔

Nope, they know who the women are really. It's the ones whose language is being removed so that men can take it for their own.

Or we could try

Cervix helps defines woman - the word
But it does not define women - the people

Or

The word woman tells you something about the person but not everything

Until people educate themselves and realise + accept trans women are women, we're all going to be given these silly names. Women are women, men are men, people are people. It's all very simple but snowflakes still don't understand it

But tw are tw the medical technology does not exist to actually change sex.
Gender is personality.

Do you think transwomen are women ?

What does the word women mean if it includes transwomen?

Let's face it, you only want to do a pregnancy test on the subset of trans-including women that are uterus havers and if you can't use women for that ...

I am not a womb carrier, this is ridiculous 🤬.

Because that's not prejudiced against women who have had an hysterectomy and therefore have no womb to carry!
I'm sick and tired of women being reduced to parts, like we're not even human beings!
Each and every woman who is referred to as such, or referred to as an even more ridiculous pregnant person needs to challenge it as loud as they can every single time without fear of being labelled. Never be afraid to challenge. Never be afraid of being labelled when you challenge. Stand up for WOMEN as a WOMAN.
We are WOMEN, not parts!

Maybe when women have a hysterectomy they could be given their womb in a jar that they could carry around with them.

Trans women are trans women. They are not female. Women are adult human females

I'm saw the original tweet and I'm still struggling to understand why anyone, no matter how they identify or believe, thought that was a good idea. The more this crap is stated, the more people it will reach and not in the way the TRAs are hoping. Even the most passive and neutral people are going to see stuff like that and think 'wtf?'

I will not be reduced to being labelled by my body parts. Not now, not ever. Woman is sufficient. I am not a subset of that.

No, I don't. Their fundamental biology is male. Shouting in people's faces and calling them offensive names doesn't change that.

Until people educate themselves and realise + accept trans women are women

but that just doesn't cut it. If Transwomen are women, and womb-carriers are women - it doesn't match.

And you can bugger off with "educate yourselves" I get a lot of shit online because i stand up for people with trans identities, and try to use inclusive language and so on. But FFS - the word woman is a word that describes 50% of us very well. If Transwomen want acceptance from women, that is fine by me but don't piss us off by telling us that we should get used to not being called women. That is utter bollocks. Jezus, for this kind of shit, i get crap for saying it's ok by me if there is a TW in the toilet stall next to me. I don't know why i bother. (but i do bother because inclusion is important to me. As is my identity as a woman)

You started from the point of "Yeah, gonna need a link for that before I comment further" then moved to 'Not that link!'. Well if your preferred media source don't/won't carry a story, sometimes you have to go to another to get the details, which you can then use to generate your own searches (hmm, 'Verso Books', let's have a look at their tweets and website then). And maybe ponder why your 'acceptable' newspapers don't/won't carry the story, and whether they really qualify as acceptable.

Anyway, assuming you find Milli Hill acceptable, here's a screenshot she took. (https://twitter.com/cismeucu/status/1540306204668428290)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_of_Native_American_women

this is actually disgusting. It seems that the main way to sterilisation of Native American women was through hysterectomy - i.e removing the womb. Are these people trying to be funny or are they just misogynistic and racist?

mobile.twitter.com/UpSticks2/status/1540293322547290115?cxt=

According to the study referenced in the aboveTweet , there is no such thing as men and women, only male and non male.😡

It’s hard to understand why they felt the word ‘woman’ wasn’t appropriate - presumably to avoid offending non binary people and trans men? PC gone potty.

I’m all for being inclusive but surely the language used has to be appropriate to the vast majority concerned here - ie ‘women’.

While non binary people and trans men are no doubt marginalised members of society, it is madness to change the terminology used for the overwhelmingly huge majority so as not to offend a small minority.

Is it really going to offend them to read an article about ‘women’ that is also relevant to them? I mean, really?!

If I’m wrong and it does, then is it that fecking hard to include the words ‘this advice applies to women and other people with wombs’ as a disclaimer somewhere near the top of the article? Then just carry on as normal. Honestly.

I am sure that when those women were selected for sterilization they weren't selected on the basis of being a womb-haver but being a woman (and therefore expected to have a womb). Any transman with a womb would presumably have registered themselves as a man and not been sterilized? Who knows.

But the word "woman" can and should be used, especially when it is about something that was done to women based on their sex.

Woman = adult human with XX chromosomes.

FFS it’s not rocket science.