Can you read this word?

[SupremeDreamz]

Posting for traffic, sorry.

Can anyone tell what the word before "Northern Ireland" says on this birth certificate?

I've included a shot of other words to make it easier.

Additionally, does anyone know how to find out your mother's maiden name if you do not know what it is?

It's Newry.

It's a pretty strange way to write a capital N, but you can see that the 'N' and 'r' in Northern Ireland are written same as the 'N' and 'r' in the first word.

Definitely Newry

Newry. As most others have said.

It's Newry, Northern Ireland

Has he done ancestry dna?. it's amazing what and who comes out of the woodwork.

Newry. If not a home birth then you're looking at families living in Down, South Armagh and possibly North Louth.

Do you have a date for the birth that you're researching? There are some vensus records in the public area now.

Also baptismal records can be good for getting maiden names. A lot of babies were registered very quickly after birth previously, so the reporting parent was often the father.

Mothers names (and professions) appear on marriage certificates in Northern Ireland as well.

Newry is a city.

I honestly thought it said henry.

Looks like Hewry but Newry makes more sense.

I'd agree with Newry. To get your grandmother's maiden name you could search for your granparents marriage - as presumably you know your grandfathers name and your grandmothers first name

You can order birth/marriage/death certificates on anyone if you have the relevant information. So estrangement shouldn’t stop you.

Do you know enough to find her birth or marriage records?

A feee trial on Ancestry or similar would let you search with only partial information and an age estimate,

Definitely Newry

Not all records are up, but if you look at marriages on freebmd it could be on there.

Jewry

!!! Meant Newry !!

What I mean is if you know the GFs name & wedding date/place the GMs name should be there also

I think it's an H not an N , seems too long to be an N

It looks exactly like the N in Northern Ireland!

It's Newry.

Newry is a place in Northern Ireland - so more likely to be that than jewry or hewry, doesn't anyone think?

It says Newry, Northern Ireland.

Thirtieth May 1979 W T McKind. Registrar.

On a related note, I came across my birth certificate today while looking for something else and that was also bloody hard to read.

Why the hell don't registrars write in all caps? Many of them seem to delight in unnecessary pen flourishes

And in answer to your second question, it should be on the birth certificate. Should say something like 'Doreen McAllen, nee O'Rourke'

I’m an historian and read docs like this all the time. It’s Newry. The first letter is written exactly the same way as the N at the start of Northern.

Newry