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To tell him or do I let this go?

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Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 09:27

I just want to say before I type this that this is a new account, but I have been on MN for years under basically the same user name but for a few digits. I had to start a new one under a new email address as had trouble getting back into the old one. So anyone is free to check that if this seems odd for a newish account.
A few years ago I met this guy on a night out. We had what I thought was a one night stand, but then a week later, bumped into him again in the same club and history repeated itself. He told me he was 19 and I had no reason to think otherwise. He looked 19, he was confident and was being served alcohol at the bar. He later admitted he was 17 and I felt bad about it but I liked him by then. I was 22 or 23 at the time.
I developed feelings for him and we wanted to be together but I was ashamed about the age gap and that he was a student when I was an adult woman with a young child, so kept it under wraps and it fizzled out eventually.
After a while I met a new partner and we later had a child together. We were argumentative and frequently split up and got back together. He was a bit abusive in some ways and I wasn't happy but found it hard to leave. So, I started texting this guy again and we met up and had sex and it led to a casual sex thing that went on for about 2 years, every time I split with my now ex, I would go back to this guy. I wanted there to be more between us, he did too, but we were afraid of other people's reactions.
I went on to have another child with my ex when we got back together.
Everyone comments she looks nothing like him. I'm now married to someone else and ex isn't in my children's lives at all anymore.
I recently saw this guy in my doctors surgery. He lives relatively local to me but we've never crossed paths. This was the first time in years. I saw him looking at me but we never spoke. I can't stop thinking how much my child looks like him. He will have moved on and I'm a distant memory now and he won't be expecting this. He deserves to know but I don't know if this is just opening up a can of worms. She has a father figure, my husband and doesn't need the confusion, but I'm unsure what to do. I feel shame around the fact I potentially had a baby with a teenage guy, although he would have been around 19 when I conceived. And she could be my ex's although she looks nothing like him, or me for that matter.

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WeAreBob · 21/06/2022 16:18

TabithaTittlemouse · 21/06/2022 16:13

That’s awful.

Explain why.

This is not a conversation you have with a child when you don't have a solid answer. You don't open that door and cause that uncertainty and confusion and upset when you dont have an answer.

Taking a swap from her cheek while she sleeps is not invasive, it doesn't take anything from her or do any damage or cause any lasting effects. It is not a medical procedure of any significance. It is a quick cheek swab.

I'm a psychologist who worked in children's mental health. I'm telling her that the kindest and safest way to do this is to get a solid answer before having the discussion.

KarmaStar · 21/06/2022 16:18

I think you should find out who her birth dad is in case she needs to know medically in the future.
Be honest.

TabithaTittlemouse · 21/06/2022 16:23

@WeAreBob it just sounds so wrong but I do understand your reasoning.

ladydimitrescu · 21/06/2022 16:31

The worst part about this is that you've waited until she is 9 years old to sort it out.
If it's this other blokes, he's missed out on 9 years of his child, and she's missed a possibly great relationship with her father, as the one she thinks is her dad doesn't even bother with her.
That's the saddest part about this.
You don't seem arsed about your daughters reaction to this, just this man.

Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 16:37

ladydimitrescu · 21/06/2022 16:31

The worst part about this is that you've waited until she is 9 years old to sort it out.
If it's this other blokes, he's missed out on 9 years of his child, and she's missed a possibly great relationship with her father, as the one she thinks is her dad doesn't even bother with her.
That's the saddest part about this.
You don't seem arsed about your daughters reaction to this, just this man.

No I do care, really I do. It's just that she's never had a biological father in her life. It would be different I think if she thought that someone was her dad and then I sprung this on her. As it is, she knows she has a dad who's not in her life. At this she doesn't know who it, so it seems irrelevant which it is. Although obviously I would like to know.

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WeAreBob · 21/06/2022 16:37

ladydimitrescu · 21/06/2022 16:31

The worst part about this is that you've waited until she is 9 years old to sort it out.
If it's this other blokes, he's missed out on 9 years of his child, and she's missed a possibly great relationship with her father, as the one she thinks is her dad doesn't even bother with her.
That's the saddest part about this.
You don't seem arsed about your daughters reaction to this, just this man.

This is spot on. It has to be handled as carefully as possible.

Find out. Once you have the results you can then plan the next step. You know her b

WeAreBob · 21/06/2022 16:40

*You know her best. You should think about whether she would be more comfortable being told alone or with her siblings/step dad sitting with her.

Does her school have a pastoral care team? You could talk with them first to get some guidance and they need to be aware when she returns to school after summer as she may need that support.

The best way is just he honest, in child appropriate language.

siobhanxsx · 21/06/2022 16:41

I really don't mean this disrespectful, when your child is older and she starts asking about her real dad I'm guessing your going to have to tell her then. If the young lad doesn't know and turns out to be the dad what's to say he's not going to want to be apart of her life? I don't think anyone has the right to take the option away from him? It's a massive secret to keep from both of them and also from your daughter.
I hope you get it sorted and everything works out for you.

CallOnMe · 21/06/2022 16:53

You can use hair for DNA tests

I don’t believe DNA tests in the UK allow you to use hair. Usually it’s a cheek swap to get saliva.

I had a DNA test for my DD as she looks identical to her dad’s best friend, even though I’ve never kissed him let alone has sex with him. That was a cheek swab.

OP I don’t understand why you have left it so long to find out the truth and why did you not think of doing it sooner?

Villagetoraiseachild · 21/06/2022 16:56

Moved to respond to you, Furrbabymama...Personally I would drop any sense of shame around the age difference...you were both attracted and adults...As for whether he be the Daddy, I would follow the above advice and get your kids tested with no fuss. If younger guy is the Daddy you can consider how best to tell him and also your child. I heard of a case last week where a thirty year old woman finally found her Dad, who had no other children and it is working out very well....all are delighted. It sounds like this younger guy is decent and discreet and if he is the Daddy you owe him the truth, as well as your daughter. Good luck.

Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 17:05

Villagetoraiseachild · 21/06/2022 16:56

Moved to respond to you, Furrbabymama...Personally I would drop any sense of shame around the age difference...you were both attracted and adults...As for whether he be the Daddy, I would follow the above advice and get your kids tested with no fuss. If younger guy is the Daddy you can consider how best to tell him and also your child. I heard of a case last week where a thirty year old woman finally found her Dad, who had no other children and it is working out very well....all are delighted. It sounds like this younger guy is decent and discreet and if he is the Daddy you owe him the truth, as well as your daughter. Good luck.

Thank you. I'm going to look later at getting one. I'm going to discuss it with my husband but I'm likely going to go ahead with it.

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browniesandcakes · 21/06/2022 17:20

If the young guy was the father, how would you feel? Would you tell him

Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 17:30

browniesandcakes · 21/06/2022 17:20

If the young guy was the father, how would you feel? Would you tell him

I think I would have to. I'm not in contact anymore but he is active on twitter and Instagram and I know his street. I just don't know how he'd react.

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Herejustforthisone · 21/06/2022 17:33

So you already had two children with the deadbeat guy, then what you thought was a third, but the third may be the ‘young guy’s. And the fourth is your husband’s?

That isn’t meant to sound judgy, I just don’t understand the timeframe.

I think you’re probably not going to rest until you know if they’re full siblings or not.

Will you be slightly be disappointed if they are full siblings, @Furrbabymama1987 ? Are you looking for a link to ‘young guy’ ?

ladydimitrescu · 21/06/2022 17:33

No I do care, really I do. It's just that she's never had a biological father in her life. It would be different I think if she thought that someone was her dad and then I sprung this on her. As it is, she knows she has a dad who's not in her life. At this she doesn't know who it, so it seems irrelevant which it is. Although obviously I would like to know.

@Furrbabymama1987

That's not any better though is it? She could have her a relationship with her father all this time, if it was the other guy. Regardless of your opinion of her father, whoever it is - she has a right to know!!
"Although I would like to know"
Ok - but it's not about you. It's about your daughter, who has the right to know her true parentage.
You are coming across so selfish. It's been 9 years, you should have done something by now. Stop thinking about yourself and put your child first.

Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 17:37

Herejustforthisone · 21/06/2022 17:33

So you already had two children with the deadbeat guy, then what you thought was a third, but the third may be the ‘young guy’s. And the fourth is your husband’s?

That isn’t meant to sound judgy, I just don’t understand the timeframe.

I think you’re probably not going to rest until you know if they’re full siblings or not.

Will you be slightly be disappointed if they are full siblings, @Furrbabymama1987 ? Are you looking for a link to ‘young guy’ ?

My teenage son isn't to my ex, he was another man's. I'm confused myself over the time frame. When I conceived my second child I wasn't seeing young guy anymore so I know she is my ex's, plus she looks like him. Then we went though a rough patch and I started seeing him again on and off. At one point me and ex were apart 5 months during where I saw young guy a lot. I got back together with ex and I conceived a baby. It was immediately after getting back together and I had also slept with young guy in that time frame. I've been with my husband 6 years and we have a child.

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Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 17:43

And yeah I admit I would be a bit disappointed. Sounds petty but it would be a fingers up to my ex. I don't want to get back with the young guy or anything.

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browniesandcakes · 21/06/2022 17:46

You are brave to do the tests and to come on here to talk about it. Be proud of yourself, your daughter will appreciate you taking the time to find out too when she is older. Would you tell the ex that she is not his daughter?

Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 17:52

browniesandcakes · 21/06/2022 17:46

You are brave to do the tests and to come on here to talk about it. Be proud of yourself, your daughter will appreciate you taking the time to find out too when she is older. Would you tell the ex that she is not his daughter?

Thank you. No I wouldn't, unless he reappeared again and wanted to see her, which is unlikely. He was always accusing me of shagging other men even before I actually did and he's never actually even seen her.

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browniesandcakes · 21/06/2022 17:55

Your being really sensible about it all. I hope your husband supports you in the dna testing. Will you update the thread when you find out?

Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 17:56

browniesandcakes · 21/06/2022 17:55

Your being really sensible about it all. I hope your husband supports you in the dna testing. Will you update the thread when you find out?

Yes I will do.

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browniesandcakes · 21/06/2022 17:58

I hope it all works out for you. Make sure the dna test you purchase is accurate x

Furrbabymama1987 · 21/06/2022 18:01

Thank you, I've seem one called North gene. Does anyone know if they are legit?

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uncomfortablydumb53 · 21/06/2022 18:22

I was 4 years older than my first boyfriend Him 17 and me 21
Personally I think age is irrelevant( obviously over 16)
I would sibling test, as there's no point opening a can of worms with your ex
Your DD needs to know who her father is( particularly as the young guy is local)

uncomfortablydumb53 · 21/06/2022 18:26

Meant to say I hope the dna test gives you peace of mind
FWIW I think you're brave to face up to the situation