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What do you think would be an appropriate response/rectification to this email?

285 replies

intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:20

Hello,

I’d like to make a complaint. I booked a table for ten people at your establishment for 8pm - Saturday, 18th June. I paid the 50 pound deposit over the phone and I asked the woman how the deposit is paid back, she replied that it would be paid back in vouchers to be spent in your establishment. I’d asked if there was any chance I could get it back in cash as would be simpler for me. She replied that she would ask her manager, which she did whilst I was on the phone, and the manager said that it was fine to pay me back cash.

Turned up on the night, all fine, table was fine etc. Went to the bar and asked about deposit at which point was given vouchers. I explained to the girl behind the bar that I was to get cash. She said she remembered speaking to me on the phone and fetched the manager.

I’m not sure of the managers name, but he was wearing a white shirt and had an ear piece in and I think his name begins with ‘A’ but could be wrong - he stated he was the only manager of your establishment. The manager came over in a really aggressive manner and denied that he had ever agreed to give me my deposit back in cash even though the girl behind the bar confirmed that she had taken the phone call and he had authorised that. I said to the manager that if he didn’t authorise it then he needs to speak to his staff about giving out misinformation. At this point he came close to my face and said ‘what do I need to tell my staff?’ and repeated this several times in a really aggressive manner. I felt very intimidated and uncomfortable to the point I just agreed to take the vouchers as I dislike confrontation and just wanted the situation to be over. I used 30 pounds of the vouchers and am now left with a 20 pound voucher which I won’t get the use out of due to the fact that I won’t be returning to your establishment after this experience.

If your policy is to return deposits via vouchers then that is fair enough, but it should have never been agreed to if that is the case. Your manager made out that I was a liar along with his member of staff that was serving behind the bar. That along with his aggressive mannerisms and the way in which he dealt with a paying customer is totally unacceptable. I left shortly afterwards as I felt so uncomfortable. If cash deposit return hadn’t been agreed then I could have booked elsewhere or worked something out with my group. However, I’ve now been left £50 out of pocket due to this.

It was my 30th birthday and I really just wanted to celebrate with my friends and this really put a dampener on the night. I am so disappointed as I have only ever had great experiences with your establishment but the customer service I received last night is the worst I have ever experienced unfortunately.

Kind regards

OP posts:
DenholmElliot1 · 19/06/2022 17:22

Surely the deposit just gets taken off the final bill?

Travis1 · 19/06/2022 17:24

Why did you not return the deposit in cash or off the parties bill? Tbh I’d be pissed off if I was the customer. Are you the manager she spoke with? If not have you spoken to the bar staff in question?

FairyLightAddict · 19/06/2022 17:24

Every time I've paid a deposit it's been taken off the bill

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 19/06/2022 17:24

Why didn’t you use all of the vouchers that evening?

It’s a strange policy and I don’t think the reply is going to be great if the manager was that awful.

intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:24

DenholmElliot1 · 19/06/2022 17:22

Surely the deposit just gets taken off the final bill?

In for drinks not food. So there was no tab, people must order drinks at the bar

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PinkiOcelot · 19/06/2022 17:26

That sounds crap. I would have expected the deposit just to come off the final bill. I would also complain.

Ragwort · 19/06/2022 17:26

Surely the point of a deposit is that it is deducted from the final bill not given back as a refund? Confused

jamoncrumpets · 19/06/2022 17:26

So they keep all the deposits and give out vouchers, someone say 'money laundering?'

Bitwornout · 19/06/2022 17:26

The deposit just comes off the final bill - why would it be returned at all?

Ragwort · 19/06/2022 17:27

Were you expected to have £50 worth of drinks at the bar and then start paying for them?

DanielRicciardosSmile · 19/06/2022 17:27

I'm also confused as to why the deposit was returned rather than deducted from the bill? Surely the bill for 10 people can't have been only £30?

intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:27

There is no final bill though. Drinks are paid as you go. The deposit is there to secure the table and if they didn't turn up then we would keep the £50 to make up for losses for reserving the table.

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girlmom21 · 19/06/2022 17:28

How did 10 people only have £30 worth of drinks?

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 19/06/2022 17:29

intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:24

In for drinks not food. So there was no tab, people must order drinks at the bar

You could only use it for drinks?!? Sounds like a ridiculous system and I’d never be going there again. Was the deposit only for larger groups?

intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:29

I think the lady had paid the 50 deposit to secure the table thinking she would get the 50 pounds back and her friends would pay for their own drinks. I'm assuming the 30 pounds were for her drinks.

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DenholmElliot1 · 19/06/2022 17:29

Ah OK. In that case, if they paid cash they should get cash back, obviously.

Discovereads · 19/06/2022 17:30

I’d put a synopsis of what happened on trip advisor.
the table deposit is supposed to be taken off the restaurant bill at the end not given in vouchers
its a shit policy and I am not even sure it’s legal

riesenrad · 19/06/2022 17:31

I would also expect a deposit to be taken off the bill.

DenholmElliot1 · 19/06/2022 17:31

What I mean is - if she paid £50 cash to secure the table and she showed up as promised and they had drinks then yes, of course the £50 should be paid back as cash.

And your manager is a liar.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 19/06/2022 17:31

intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:29

I think the lady had paid the 50 deposit to secure the table thinking she would get the 50 pounds back and her friends would pay for their own drinks. I'm assuming the 30 pounds were for her drinks.

Are you the one replying to the email because you’re the owner?

junglejane66 · 19/06/2022 17:32

Have you sent the e-mail? Its seems a bit long and waffles on a bit, they might not get to the end or miss the important bits

DanielRicciardosSmile · 19/06/2022 17:32

Well that sounds ridiculous. Why not operate a tab system? Insisting someone pays a £50 deposit and then pays full price for their drinks before returning their £50 in vouchers that can only be spent in your establishment sounds like a complete scam tbh.

alphons · 19/06/2022 17:32

It would take me a long time to reply to that email. I couldn’t be bothered to wade through all the hurt feelings 🙄

Discovereads · 19/06/2022 17:33

Oh, if it’s your place/you’re the next level manager I would change the policy,
table deposits should be authorisations against credit cards and only be converted to a charge in the event of a no show.
shouldn’t be taking money up front and not giving it back.

Plump82 · 19/06/2022 17:33

I'm confused about who you are in this situation.