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What do you think would be an appropriate response/rectification to this email?

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intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:20

Hello,

I’d like to make a complaint. I booked a table for ten people at your establishment for 8pm - Saturday, 18th June. I paid the 50 pound deposit over the phone and I asked the woman how the deposit is paid back, she replied that it would be paid back in vouchers to be spent in your establishment. I’d asked if there was any chance I could get it back in cash as would be simpler for me. She replied that she would ask her manager, which she did whilst I was on the phone, and the manager said that it was fine to pay me back cash.

Turned up on the night, all fine, table was fine etc. Went to the bar and asked about deposit at which point was given vouchers. I explained to the girl behind the bar that I was to get cash. She said she remembered speaking to me on the phone and fetched the manager.

I’m not sure of the managers name, but he was wearing a white shirt and had an ear piece in and I think his name begins with ‘A’ but could be wrong - he stated he was the only manager of your establishment. The manager came over in a really aggressive manner and denied that he had ever agreed to give me my deposit back in cash even though the girl behind the bar confirmed that she had taken the phone call and he had authorised that. I said to the manager that if he didn’t authorise it then he needs to speak to his staff about giving out misinformation. At this point he came close to my face and said ‘what do I need to tell my staff?’ and repeated this several times in a really aggressive manner. I felt very intimidated and uncomfortable to the point I just agreed to take the vouchers as I dislike confrontation and just wanted the situation to be over. I used 30 pounds of the vouchers and am now left with a 20 pound voucher which I won’t get the use out of due to the fact that I won’t be returning to your establishment after this experience.

If your policy is to return deposits via vouchers then that is fair enough, but it should have never been agreed to if that is the case. Your manager made out that I was a liar along with his member of staff that was serving behind the bar. That along with his aggressive mannerisms and the way in which he dealt with a paying customer is totally unacceptable. I left shortly afterwards as I felt so uncomfortable. If cash deposit return hadn’t been agreed then I could have booked elsewhere or worked something out with my group. However, I’ve now been left £50 out of pocket due to this.

It was my 30th birthday and I really just wanted to celebrate with my friends and this really put a dampener on the night. I am so disappointed as I have only ever had great experiences with your establishment but the customer service I received last night is the worst I have ever experienced unfortunately.

Kind regards

OP posts:
NumberTheory · 20/06/2022 16:42

BrownStripePJ · 20/06/2022 15:55

You are being so unreasonable.

Surely deposits should be given back in cash/card/ however they were paid.

Otherwise you're basically forcing people to buy vouchers !

That would be the point - requiring a minimum spend in the bar in return for the reserved table.

In a busy bar holding a table will cut down on walk in custom, so ensuring a minimum spend is one way to make up for that to some extent.

Looneytune253 · 20/06/2022 16:47

I think it's irrelevant. There's no question you still have this lady's deposit I'm guessing so give her a refund in cash/bank transfer now. Whether you think you should give any extra is still something to think about tho. That depends whether you believe your manager or the customer though

CapMarvel · 20/06/2022 16:49

This is really weird.

Why are you taking a deposit for a table? Just do as every other bar/restaurant and either accept walk-ins only, or if they don't turn up within 10-15 minutes of the booking you simply give the table to a walkin.

If you don't have walkins to cover the table, then you don't need a booking system in the first place.

And, if you do for some bizzare reason insist on taking a deposit that money should go on a tab and anything unspent absolutely should be refunded in cash.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 20/06/2022 16:56

As an owner I'm surprised you don't realise that the customer comes first!
Deposits should be refunded to the original payment method although usually they're taken off the bill
What a nerve, repaying deposits in vouchers, which they have to return to your profits anyway
If it's legally allowed, it shouldn't be.
If I were you I'd repay double as compensation before you get a review on trust pilot, losing you business!!!

Regularsizedrudy · 20/06/2022 16:57

intheguf · 19/06/2022 17:35

I'm the owner and not sure how to respond. Manager is claiming he never authorised cash return.

so you’ve just plastered some poor woman’s email, in which she describes feeling intimidated, all over the internet. Nice. Just give her the fucking cash.

Valeriekat · 20/06/2022 17:14

DenholmElliot1 · 19/06/2022 18:23

I'm guessing you're in a relationship with the manager?

Sounds like it doesn't it?

MistyBean · 20/06/2022 17:23

Bizarre. Sort out your deposit policy.

greatblueheron · 20/06/2022 18:16

aNCforjune · 20/06/2022 10:04

Do you think OP is coming back?

No, because the OP is being grossly unreasonable about his voucher system and is having his arse handed to him on this thread.

ImpartialMongoose · 20/06/2022 21:34

greatblueheron · 20/06/2022 18:16

No, because the OP is being grossly unreasonable about his voucher system and is having his arse handed to him on this thread.

Why do you assume OP is male? Or have I missed something?

StoneofDestiny · 20/06/2022 22:22

Surely you have CCTV to check the managers behaviour to the customer?

nobody got free drinks - the drinks were all paid for, you had a lot of customers and have likely lost a lot of customers after this too

outrageous no cash was given in return - vouchers are ridiculous!

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