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Styling yourself as Lord or Lady is the height of twattishness?

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GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 12:14

Googling an old ex of mine and found he's now changed his name (it would appear) to be 'Lord' and his newish wife is 'Lady'.

Don't you think that's the height of twattishness to change your name like that? See also adding a well-known/famous name to your own surname to make it double-barrelled so someone thinks you're related to them, e.g. Jones-Connery. The ex always did have delusions of grandeur! Grin

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antelopevalley · 17/06/2022 13:01

If you think everyone using the title Lord, Lady, Prince, Princess is twattish, then fine.
But I do not see any difference between buying a title and inheriting it. Neither si earned, both are meaningless.

HerTableLaid · 17/06/2022 13:05

FourChimneys · 17/06/2022 12:52

I don't use a title such as Mrs or Miss but sometimes an online form can't cope with that concept. So I select something from the drop down box like Lady or The Rt Hon.

Online booking for the ROH gave a wonderful range of options — I think I got tickets for Tosca as ‘Admiral’ once. 😀

pfills · 17/06/2022 13:07

But I do not see any difference between buying a title and inheriting it. Neither si earned, both are meaningless.

same

alloalloallo · 17/06/2022 13:07

I bought one for DH as a bit of a jokey present one birthday.

He owns 5 square feet of land in the Lake District.

It was a bit of an in joke between us. He’s never used it, although he has trained Alexa to address him as Lord XX The Great

I was too tight to pay the extra £25 for the couple one so unfortunately I’m not a Lady

Sashytomps · 17/06/2022 13:09

MrsWarboyss · 17/06/2022 12:51

I think it's ridiculous; I work in a hotel and we get people booking as 'Lord' 'Professor' etc. As if they thinks we will bow and scrape to them

Why does that mean they think you will bow and scrape to them? If someone has earned their doctorate, then I say they should absolutely go ahead and use their title if they want to. Maybe they’re just proud of who they are.

If you’re married, do you use Mrs?

mewkins · 17/06/2022 13:11

I suspect some kids (and probably nieces and newphews) of famous people do this. Change their surname to the famous relative's one or double barrel so that they have a link (and probably a leg up!)

The Lord thing though....just see it as a lucky escape+

Mommabear20 · 17/06/2022 13:11

I'd love to do this, but only so my brother had to call me it! 😂 no one else! He's always been very Lordy and 'aren't I better than everyone' so it'd be ace to see his face! 😂

OperationRinka · 17/06/2022 13:20

antelopevalley · 17/06/2022 13:01

If you think everyone using the title Lord, Lady, Prince, Princess is twattish, then fine.
But I do not see any difference between buying a title and inheriting it. Neither si earned, both are meaningless.

If you're born with a title and use it then that's a different sort of choice to not being born with it and going out of your way to get a fake one. The former is the default option for the position you happen to be born with, the latter clearly demonstrates that you think titles are great and impressive and you really wish you had one.

Unless you're a 1930s jazz band leader of course, in which case go right ahead.

Also if you're Lord X because you were given a title for inventing a cure for cancer then feel free to use it all the time.

antelopevalley · 17/06/2022 13:21

You know you can just use the title Lady without paying anything. It is not a legally protected title.

antelopevalley · 17/06/2022 13:23

@OperationRinka But being born with a title is meaningless. Who decided to give it to your family? A title for your ancestor because they owned land or won a battle? So why would you be called it?
I do not care what titles people use. I judge people who think their meaningless title has more worth than someone else's meaningless title.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 13:26

luxxlisbon · 17/06/2022 12:16

See also adding a well-known/famous name to your own surname to make it double-barrelled so someone thinks you're related to them, e.g. Jones-Connery.

Is this really a thing people do though?

Yes, my uncle has done this. Not saying his name as he's estranged from the family - think a usual name like Jones and he's added a sort of obscure name related to a famous author. Thinks it makes him sound posher...

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GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 13:26

HerTableLaid · 17/06/2022 12:18

Hang on, so you’re saying they both changed their names by deed poll or whatever from Gary and Sarah Jones to Lord and Lady Jones?

It's on Companies House so looks like it!

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EcoEcoIA · 17/06/2022 13:27

Historically aristocratic titles would have been given to people who were the most violent in fighting over land or the ones who sucked up most to royalty, or married into similar. So if he wants to be associated with the inbred descendants of psychos, sycophants and gold-diggers then yep, that marks him out as a twat.

Used to work for a company that had real aristocrats as clients. Some of them wanted letters addressed without the tile, just the "surname", no first name e.g. Lord XXXX would be just addressed as XXXX.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 13:27

Imissmoominmama · 17/06/2022 12:22

I know a couple who have done this, but they’re really into dressing up in period costume (all meticulously sewn by her), and fantasy stuff (not kinky!!).

It’s all in context.

That's a bit different!

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Hendalle · 17/06/2022 13:27

I have given myself the title of “The”, realising this may out me 😂if my family are on here. I go by The Hendalle to them (and select friends).

I’ve also always rather fancied the title Admiral. Pity that I wasn’t cut out for a life at sea 😂

EcoEcoIA · 17/06/2022 13:27

title

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 17/06/2022 13:28

How very dare you... 😉

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 13:29

antelopevalley · 17/06/2022 12:46

So people who inherit titles and use them are not twattish?
Why is that?

Of course they're not twattish, as they've inherited them and therefore have the right to use them. And yes it's our English/Scottish feudal system where we hand down titles which is totally wrong really on a class level. But they were born with the right to use the title yes I admit that does sound a bit twattish of me Grin

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GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 13:30

RustyShackleford3 · 17/06/2022 12:47

I told student finance that my title is "Princess". They actually use it on all correspondence. It makes me very, very happy. I can't quite explain why.

That's kind of cute and is tongue in cheek.

This man definitely would love to be a real Lord but isn't... when we were having a disagreement he sent me a photo of a castle with grounds which he said was his. I forwarded it to my friend who said "That's a castle in Ireland!"

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SummerLobelia · 17/06/2022 13:31

So funny. DH is a proper Sir. His former wife still uses Lady, despite being divorced 20 years and remarried (for her) 14 years.

If something in the mail comes for him using Sir we know it is usually a bill of some sort.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 13:31

Deidretheelf · 17/06/2022 12:54

How do you know he didn’t inherit or get given the title? It is possible. A childless uncle or cousin could lead to that.

No, no way. He was never this Lord TwattyMcTwatface before so there was nothing to inherit e.g no title. I know enough about him to know that!

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MrsReeves · 17/06/2022 13:32

DorothyZbornakIsAQueen · 17/06/2022 12:51

See also adding a well-known/famous name to your own surname to make it double-barrelled so someone thinks you're related to them, e.g. Jones-Connery

I have never heard of this in my life.

Me either. My actual surname is the same as a very famous actor, and its the most boring question ever. Can't think why you'd fake a name for that

antelopevalley · 17/06/2022 13:32

@GonnaGetGoingReturns Born with the right to use them? I do not see the difference with someone paying for the right to use them. I think it is an artificial distinction.
It reminds me of the insult that Heseltine had to buy his furniture rather than inherit it.
It is snobbishness, nothing more. Buying something is wrong, inheriting it is right.

Hallyup89 · 17/06/2022 13:32

I once came across a Lady Diana, whilst working in a hospital. It was on all her notes and she insisted she was called that. I suppose, for all I know, it could have been her actual name. Was very weird though.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 17/06/2022 13:32

LateAF · 17/06/2022 12:54

Well to be fair I see nothing wrong with people using hard earned titles such as Professor and Dr- no one is suggesting you should bow it’s just a title they are able to use.

A title e.g. Professor and Dr if you've earned it yes use it.

A landed gentry title you've bought off the internet for £50 smacks of twattyness to me.

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