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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask why people like Dubai so much?

524 replies

moreyoudoknow · 15/06/2022 20:16

I know loads of people who now say it's their favourite holiday destination?

What's so lovely about it? Looks too hot to me? Can go above 45 weather wise!

I like the Canary Islands because the sun burns down but it has a cool breeze... a hidden gem if you hate sweltering heat

From pictures, it looks like a city like London that just has pools?

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powershowerforanhour · 16/06/2022 03:20

"an economy that allows expats to feel that they are richer/wealthier/better off and just plain better that other people."

Is this the crux of it? Can you get a big blingy hotel suite with servants coming running at the click of your fingers for middling-big money, that would cost mega mega bucks or be reserved for oligarchs and film stars elsewhere? So you can play at being rich for a week on holiday or a couple of years out working there?

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 03:26

The ethical reasons don't stack up. Perhaps not on the same scales but there's exploitation in a lot of Countries around the world or things that are not right. Richard Branston buying tropical islands for one!

I agree with the poster who said its snobbery..
Turkey, Tunisa are often spoken about in a derogatory manner.

Dubai is fascinating even to enter the shopping malls!

kateandme · 16/06/2022 03:39

Instagram.insta.trendy.the place to be innit.thats all it is.social media people's playground.ughk

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 03:47

@HRTQueen glad you told that poster obviously some people are unaware when they are flying to the Tropical Islands or going on a cruise!

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 03:50

bloodyplanes · 15/06/2022 21:49

A "certain" type of person enjoys Dubai. Generally they have an image to maintain, they are flashy and tacky and wouldn't even consider the modern day slavery that goes on there.

It happens in UK also. At least you know what's what with Dubai!

youlightupmyday · 16/06/2022 04:07

Didn't the UK build it's wealth off silvery and colonialism. Seems an odd argument to pick up and run with, to Mr.

StAgur · 16/06/2022 04:21

It's Harlow with more sand and heat.

FriendsNotFood · 16/06/2022 04:25

I agree with it being vulgar and grotesque. There’s a certain sort of person it appeals to, often those that are fake, shallow, thick and enjoy feeling like they’re better than others.

habibihabibi · 16/06/2022 04:36

We go to have a short break from Saudi, where we work. There is alot more for the kids to do than here. Expo was simply amazing. I like that I can have wine and wear shorts.

notanotherdubaiwanker · 16/06/2022 05:00

Usually avoid these regular Dubai-bashing threads but can't sleep so will bite.

I lived there for a few years. Never aspired to or envied the insta-Dubai lifestyle. Deeply uncomfortable with the conditions of the service and labour workers. Didn't enjoy my time there overall as my work was awful, I struggled with the heat from May-October, especially the humidity, and I'm the least 'Dubai-like' westerner you can imagine. (Slightly chubby mum of 2 who's never even had her eyebrows or nails done let alone Botox) .

However, there is a middle ground type of expat that seems to fly under the radar in mumsnet's perception of Dubai. Normal families who move there to be able to save and provide for their family in a way that may not be possible in middle income jobs elsewhere.

Our Dubai life was living in a modest, quiet community with a diverse population, spending time in the playgrounds, our free community pool, every weekend on the beach with other families (and yes to answer a pp the kids had nets and buckets, crabs, starfish, cuttlefish and huge shoals of tiny fish to enjoy in the shallows plus clean warm, supervised bays to swim in). It's not hard to avoid the pretentious bits, loads of quiet public beaches and so many big parks. You just have to go very early or late as it gets closer to summer. In winter it's bliss.

You can do all the big theme/water parks and get deals out of season/for residents, but there's so much more as soon as you drive 1-2 hours away from Dubai. Fabulous mountains and quiet beaches on both the Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean. And of course the desert. Although I'm not sure why people think there aren't biting insects?! Mosquitos are really bad in the winter. So many of the communities are built around fake lakes it's a real issue. Ants and cockroach infestations common in homes and scorpions to watch out for if desert camping.

I was interested to hear what some posters said about feeling more comfortable holiday-ing somewhere they fit in rather than the intolerance of parts of Europe. Makes sense to me, even as a white British woman I liked that you could wear anything from a bikini to a burkini at the water park and fit in. Although I always erred on the side of respectful dressing, it's really not that well enforced in Dubai any more, other than in government buildings. Now that we are back in a small UK town, the lack of diversity is striking, so I am glad my kids have had the experience of living and going to school with kids of all different backgrounds and cultures. We have lived elsewhere overseas too.

The hotels and resorts up the coast in RAK are wonderful and I'm glad we had a chance to experience that luxury for relatively little cost as now that we are back home it's premier inn all the way.

Yes, it's a dictatorship and the disparity in wealth and living conditions is vast and terrible. No, I don't want to go back or even visit other than to see friends perhaps, but it's very easy to jump on the mumsnet bandwagon when you've only seen one side of it via Instagram or ranty posts on here.

Inkanta · 16/06/2022 05:10

I read an article once that said Dubai doesn’t have a “soul” haha

Yeah in a nutshell.

Mercurial123 · 16/06/2022 05:26

It's pretty dull and superficial unless you like sunbathing, shopping and brunches.

However, I quite like a stopover travelling with Emirates. Expo was amazing great for kids especially the sustainability area. Al Seef looking over the creek is pleasant and the waterfront cafe next to the abra station is beautiful and relaxing and serves good food at cheap prices.

Dubai Mall is good for half a day. They have an amazing bookshop where I can easily spend an hour or so.

Mercurial123 · 16/06/2022 05:33

To those objecting on moral grounds you don't mind your clothes, phones etc being made with slave labour but you won't go to Dubai?

smashmakesmash · 16/06/2022 05:39

I've been for work. Not my style or taste and no intention to go back for holiday but I can see why it would attract some people. Very bling.
It's not as crazy hot outside of summer too. Quite pleasant in winter time.

Mercurial123 · 16/06/2022 05:47

*Nahnanananahna

I haven't met a single South Asian who did well there and made comfortable money.*

You didn't see the many wealthy Indian expats?!

mnnewbie111 · 16/06/2022 05:53

It's the safest place I have ever been to.I go visit friends and can you believe it, non of them have fake eyelashes or bling. Like anywhere there are shit bits and good bits and like anywhere you have people who think they are better than everyone else if their holiday destination requirements differ. Utterly bizarre. There is slavery EVERYWHERE, you have all holidayed in a country where this happens. But it's hidden better.

Aishah231 · 16/06/2022 06:17

Fritilleries · 15/06/2022 20:19

It's an artificial, migrant built playground for the rich and vulgar.

Exactly this!

You'd have to be prepared to ignore a lot to enjoy going to Dubai

Ueydayblue · 16/06/2022 06:17

I was treated to a luxury holiday there a few years ago but it wouldn't have been my choice.
It was impressive in parts but flashy, vulgar, full of ghastly people and sad really. I've travelled widely & this is one place I would never go back to.
I've had more charming & interesting holidays in other countries at a fraction of the price. It really is for the very rich who believe money substitutes for lack of personality & intelligence.

onlythreenow · 16/06/2022 06:24

Because people like different things? There may well be people in Dubai wondering why people like many other parts of the world so much.

lightand · 16/06/2022 06:24

Sounds like, as long as it suits the me me me people, that is all they need to know.

onlythreenow · 16/06/2022 06:25

I agree with it being vulgar and grotesque. There’s a certain sort of person it appeals to, often those that are fake, shallow, thick and enjoy feeling like they’re better than others.

And you think you are better than those people??? Hmm

smashmakesmash · 16/06/2022 06:33

Dubai is becoming more and more popular as a meeting/conference destination because of how difficult it is for professionals in Asia and Africa (plus Russia of course) to get to Europe and the UK. We've had experts decline invitations because of the expense, time and humiliation of trying to get visas.

OperaStation · 16/06/2022 06:40

HerRoyalNotness · 15/06/2022 20:49

I haven’t been in 20yrs (WTF?) but the appeal to me is that when a country/investors has so much money they can build what ever they want and I’m interested it what is built, the fantastic ideas that come from it.

another example is the city of Neom being built along the Red Sea. The scale and dream of it are unimaginable, I not only want to see it and I want to be part of the team that builds it.

Building a city in the middle of a desert isn’t a fantastic idea, it’s an environmental disaster. Everything has to be shipped in and climate controlled. The energy consumption is horrendous. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

speakout · 16/06/2022 06:40

I don't think many people - here at least- like Dubai at all.
I have been ( work related) and I really disliked it. The whole glittering facade is built on human misery and made me feel very uncomfortable.
OH was offered a job there some years ago- the huge salary was tempting- but he feels like me and declined.

OperaStation · 16/06/2022 06:42

onlythreenow · 16/06/2022 06:24

Because people like different things? There may well be people in Dubai wondering why people like many other parts of the world so much.

If they do, it’s mainly because they’re not paying any tax in Dubai.

But let’s not forget that it is a highly censored dictatorship with a dreadful human rights record.