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To not understand why people go abroad on holiday in the summer?

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Dogscanteatonions · 15/06/2022 09:54

My social media is full of people on holiday abroad at the moment. It's glorious here and I've got a few days off work so I've just been for a walk round my village and will spend the afternoon in the garden reading in the sun with a couple of glasses of something.

Britain is lovely in the summer - I'd far rather go abroad later or earlier in the year when the weather is not so good here and make the most of the weather here while we have it.

I've never really understood the desire to go abroad while it's nice here. Anyone else with me?

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Kanaloa · 15/06/2022 13:08

anotherbrewplease · 15/06/2022 13:07

I mean read your last paragraph

I don't need to read it thanks, as I wrote it 5 minutes ago. My memory is pretty bad, but not quite that bad.

Calm down a bit - this is a thread about holidays and relaxation.

Don’t tell me to calm down just because I disagree with you - I’m perfectly calm. I’m just pointing out that you saying ‘op is right, why is it so hard to say we like different things’ is sort of ridiculous given that op is the one who had to start an entire thread because they couldn’t conceptualise that people like different things.

PurpleButterflyWings · 15/06/2022 13:08

Kanaloa · 15/06/2022 12:54

Yep. There’s certain topics they basically know will encourage lots of posters because it’s clearly taking a dig at people. So I’ve always thought someone on mumsnet posts them to whip up lots of interest/posts. And then doesn’t bother replying. Because nobody who is developmentally capable of posting on a website would be so lacking in comprehension that they can’t possibly figure out why people go away from Britain on holiday.

Yep this. It's like the 'why would anyone get married?' or 'do you regret having your children' or 'should people on benefits be allowed to go on day trips to the beach at the taxpayers expense?,' and 'should I have a baby at 44?' and 'fed up of taking neighbours parcels in.' (every week now we have one of them!)

And one running atm 'would you be put off a man if he couldn't drive?' OP fucked off 4 DAYS ago from that one after only posting a handful of posts on the day she posted it.

Such goady content, and a guarantee that people will have strong opinions and will get wound up and angry. And 4 times out of 5, the OPs on these type of threads don't return after the first post, or they post 2 or 3 more posts within an hour or two, and then never come back to it.

And now I really am going as I need to do my actual fucking JOB! 😮

ForestFae · 15/06/2022 13:10

Stroopwaffels · 15/06/2022 13:04

People are fine with others liking different things.

What they don't like is the evangelising. You like sitting in a tent playing board games. Fine. But it is not your place to trying to convince anyone else that it is "genuine fun".

On the other hands, sweeping statements about the entire Med being one all-inclusive resort should be challenged for utter stupidity.

I never remotely implied it was, and I’ve been to several places in the med several times. Sounds like you’re making a strawman.

ForestFae · 15/06/2022 13:12

Kanaloa · 15/06/2022 13:04

Do you think that there’s nothing to see or do in the Caribbean? Every country has wonderful things to see and people to meet and experiences.

Nobody is saying you need to visit - it’s the silliness of ‘I just don’t understand why anyone would ever visit’ that’s stupid. OP obviously understands exactly why people visit places she personally wouldn’t want to go. Same as I understand why people go camping. It’s because everyone likes what they like.

I think there’s loads to do, just not much that interests me personally. And that’s fine, to each their own. Someone asked me specifically why I didn’t like it so I answered

Blinkingheckythump · 15/06/2022 13:12

Because I don't have a crystal ball to show me when the one good week of UK weather will be in order to book my holiday then?!

Eeksteek · 15/06/2022 13:14

I am not a fan of lounging by a pool in the heat, but the last few years I have braved driving on the continent to visit relatives posted out there.

It was wonderful. Glorious. Not too hot (except for a few days) lovely food, great people, lots of adventures. Cheap to stay places, easy to travel. We went all over France, Italy and Switzerland and had a blast.

So much less hassle than the UK. No snooty parking where the camper wasn’t allowed, lots of free stopovers in lovely little towns with water and waste facilities. Lovely roads, hardly any traffic. Lots to see and do from Pompeii to Disneyland. I enjoyed it immensely. And not having to plan for rain constantly was very relaxing. I don’t think I even took a sweatshirt out with me once. Being able to try out and bring home lots of local produce, but also feed my fussy kid easily was wonderful. I bought huge cans of olive oil, cases of wine and lovely cheeses.

I’ve been very lucky, I have lots of flexibility and I can (usually) go away a few times. It’s not very expensive if you’re using free stops; using and cooking local food with occasional meals out and doing lots of free activities. But in the UK, a lot of that infrastructure doesn’t exist (there is talk of the national trust doing low cost park ups, but it’s been talk for two years). Campsites are ludicrously expensive and campers are simply not welcome in many places, as they are viewed as dirty, messy and scrounging and there are no waste and water facilities outside of paid sites. The most I ever paid for an aire was 10 euros, and that was with electric, showers, shop, toilets, laundry etc. in the UK in high season a campsite with those facilities would be around £40 a night. You can pay more for campsites abroad (not usually that much though) but they will usually have restaurants, pools and leisure facilities for that sort of price.

Campsites in the UK are also built for caravanning. They are usually miles from anywhere. On the continent there is a whole culture of motorhoming where you can park locally and stay near where you want to go, or at pretty places, or working farms or vineyards for nothing or next to nothing. And they aren’t full of rubbish or yobbish behaviour as campsites in the uk can be. It was much nicer and I wish I’d done it years ago. Camping is a great deal more pleasant in Europe. You can live outside.

I love the UK, and I have travelled a lot here, and look forward to travelling more. There’s nowhere I’d rather live. But Europe was a vastly different and in many ways superior way to motorhome across.

A free aire in Reims, France. A couple of minutes walk outside of the village with a bakery, couple of cafes and a shop. It’s a fairly standard stopover. (I think it only had water). Many are corners of the town car park, which are not so pretty, but usually have waste water dumps and often paid electric for a few pounds.

To not understand why people go abroad on holiday in the summer?
OrientalDaisy · 15/06/2022 13:15

PurpleButterflyWings · 15/06/2022 13:08

Yep this. It's like the 'why would anyone get married?' or 'do you regret having your children' or 'should people on benefits be allowed to go on day trips to the beach at the taxpayers expense?,' and 'should I have a baby at 44?' and 'fed up of taking neighbours parcels in.' (every week now we have one of them!)

And one running atm 'would you be put off a man if he couldn't drive?' OP fucked off 4 DAYS ago from that one after only posting a handful of posts on the day she posted it.

Such goady content, and a guarantee that people will have strong opinions and will get wound up and angry. And 4 times out of 5, the OPs on these type of threads don't return after the first post, or they post 2 or 3 more posts within an hour or two, and then never come back to it.

And now I really am going as I need to do my actual fucking JOB! 😮

Hahahahah this is MN in a nutshell. I am still taking to my DH how because he doesn't drive and doesn't have a fancy house if we were to split up he wouldn't be considered a dating material at all. He said he doesn't care one bit 😃

User2145738790 · 15/06/2022 13:16

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 12:53

Firstly, I don’t like the heat. At all. Secondly there’s a certain scenery I really enjoy - ancient forests, craggy mountains, choppy seas with moody skies. I’m a huge fantasy fan and I like scenes that are Tolkienesque for lack of a better phrase. Then you get to what I like to do - hiking, seeing sites of historical interest, ancient monuments, foraging, painting landscapes…glass seas, palms and white beaches with cocktails, with an emphasis on things like snorkelling just isn’t fun for me. I get it might be for you but I don’t like that

I don’t doubt that you like all those things. However there are loads of countries that offer exactly what you like eg , Albania, Poland, Norway, Germany, Estonia, Romania.Moldova. All fabulous places with really cool , interesting places. I’ve been to them all in summer and spent a fraction of a typical UK holiday AND villa nd beach holidays
I’m not trying to change your mind, just saying it’s good not to have a closed one

Are you a man?

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 13:16

NashvilleQueen
And never underestimate the joys of mooching around an unfamiliar foreign supermarket
I agree but what about the supermarkets you are familiar with such as Spar, Aldi and Lidl only to find out they are the same but very different!! They are great.

(Before anyone criticises me, I mean same logos, same branding and you are lulled into a false sense of familiarity and then boom! Foods that seem weird to us but are perfectly normal where you are visiting! I love being caught off guard like that)

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 13:18

Are you a man?
what’s that got to do with the price of cabbage?🤔

Kanaloa · 15/06/2022 13:19

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 13:18

Are you a man?
what’s that got to do with the price of cabbage?🤔

Men don’t go on holidays. So obviously if you’re a man you wouldn’t really understand the different between camping in an Asda car park in Bolton and a two week all inclusive in Zakinthos. Obviously.

Kanaloa · 15/06/2022 13:20

That’s part of the whole airport security. Put your laptop in a box, take your shoes off, willy check. If you’re found with a willy (attached to your body) you can’t travel. Same with buying tents and holiday equipment.

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 13:22

Men don’t go on holidays. So obviously if you’re a man you wouldn’t really understand the different between camping in an Asda car park in Bolton and a two week all inclusive in Zakinthos. Obviously
Ok Poirot, what do you think?

Simonjt · 15/06/2022 13:22

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/06/2022 12:42

@Simonjt

barbados and Grenada are way safer than the Uk I’ve found

Really? I won’t get sent to prison for being me in the UK.

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/06/2022 13:30

OrientalDaisy · 15/06/2022 13:15

Hahahahah this is MN in a nutshell. I am still taking to my DH how because he doesn't drive and doesn't have a fancy house if we were to split up he wouldn't be considered a dating material at all. He said he doesn't care one bit 😃

@OrientalDaisy

well he would care if you were ever to split up, unless he wanted to remain single for the rest of his life

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/06/2022 13:31

Simonjt · 15/06/2022 13:22

Really? I won’t get sent to prison for being me in the UK.

@Simonjt

you wouldn’t in Barbados or Grenada!

have you ever actually been to these countries or just making judgements about them?

honestly some people on here are so UK-centric

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 13:32

So obviously if you’re a man you wouldn’t really understand the different between camping in an Asda car park in Bolton and a two week all inclusive in Zakinthos
I was actually on Asda car park in Bolton yesterday. I called in on my back from Smithills Farm. I’ve never been to Zakinthos though.

I must admit the broad sweeping statement of men not understanding the difference between holidays is pretty insulting. Although I’m not taking your words literally, there is an element of superiority in your post suggesting males can’t organise holidays. Bunkrum, of course.

Simonjt · 15/06/2022 13:34

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/06/2022 13:31

@Simonjt

you wouldn’t in Barbados or Grenada!

have you ever actually been to these countries or just making judgements about them?

honestly some people on here are so UK-centric

You may wish to do some very basic research regarding the laws in both Barbados and Granada, I can be imprisoned for ten years in both for simply existing.

How does being aware of laws in other countries and enjoying holidays abroad make me UK centric?

woodencoffetable · 15/06/2022 13:34

I'm with you. I like my home, my garden, my area, and my country. I do not wish to escape any of it.

I understand why people do though, it's either to see the world, seek sun, or escape their working or home life.

My dad loves his home too but still wants to go away as he likes to bask in the sun in a villa abroad. It's not too different from his home except that it's hotter and the trip to the shops for booze that little bit more pleasant.

I would 100% prefer to just be at home, but I also enjoy winter weather.

Kanaloa · 15/06/2022 13:34

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 13:32

So obviously if you’re a man you wouldn’t really understand the different between camping in an Asda car park in Bolton and a two week all inclusive in Zakinthos
I was actually on Asda car park in Bolton yesterday. I called in on my back from Smithills Farm. I’ve never been to Zakinthos though.

I must admit the broad sweeping statement of men not understanding the difference between holidays is pretty insulting. Although I’m not taking your words literally, there is an element of superiority in your post suggesting males can’t organise holidays. Bunkrum, of course.

It was a joke 😂 I was pointing out the absurdity of someone asking if it was a male poster given that it has little/nothing to do with holiday preference. Honestly I do wonder where this website finds posters because I’ve never met the likes of these people in real life.

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/06/2022 13:35

notacooldad · 15/06/2022 13:16

NashvilleQueen
And never underestimate the joys of mooching around an unfamiliar foreign supermarket
I agree but what about the supermarkets you are familiar with such as Spar, Aldi and Lidl only to find out they are the same but very different!! They are great.

(Before anyone criticises me, I mean same logos, same branding and you are lulled into a false sense of familiarity and then boom! Foods that seem weird to us but are perfectly normal where you are visiting! I love being caught off guard like that)

Some people on here would hate that though!

They only like what they know and think that nothing elsewhere is as good as at home

worriedatthistime · 15/06/2022 13:35

@Othersideoftheagean but many if us don't like rain and if you have two weeks off and it rains the entire time then its miserable and statitscally its warmer of course , like june will be this year becaus if the few good days we have
I don't want to be on holiday in a jumper or raincoat
Im not a sun worshipper either but enjoy a abroad holiday for a week or two and I can do weekends away in uk
Plus i live near beaches etc anyway
The weather is unpredictable in the uk thats just a fact

BinBandit · 15/06/2022 13:36

Because a week in Menorca was cheaper than a cottage in the Lakes/Northumberland/Scotland where it would no doubt rain and eating out costs a lot more and you need to pay for activities to keep you occupied in the cold and rain. Abroad you have the beach and pool to fill your days and you can eat out for 15 euros a person. Alcohol pretty similar prices but I don't go on holiday to get rat arsed.

SquirrelSoShiny · 15/06/2022 13:36

These threads are always such a failure of imagination. Not everyone lives in the SE of England which does actually get summer weather fairly consistently. And yes, there's more to holidays than weather. There's food, music, speaking another language, lovely scenery, cool city culture. What's not to love?

worriedatthistime · 15/06/2022 13:37

@Othersideoftheagean also only april and dec dc get more than a week school hols
So if you want a 2 week holiday your limited

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