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to think that I can 'buy' good neighbours

217 replies

uis · 11/06/2022 17:45

Ok so I think I am probably BU but let me set context. I also appreciate this thread might grate on a lot of people given the difficulties in getting on the property ladder but I post this with the humblest of intentions and appreciate how fortunate I am.

So I've been on MN for a long time and read a lot of neighbour dispute threads. Most of the nuisance neighbours seem to be druggies, on benefits and out of work or just not right in the head. We live in a detached house and had a set of bad neighbours who were renting (loud music in the garden, parking issues, drugs and we suspected dealing as well). Through us and neighbours persistently complaining to the landlord and development company, things improved after a few months and they moved out after 12 months anyway.

We're currently in the process of selling and have reserved a detached house in another new build development much further away. The houses around us are all detached and around the £600 - 680k mark and it got me thinking - we were worried about getting dodgy neighbours again but sort of assumed that being at this price range, we'd avoid really bad nuisance neighbours or that we'd get neighbours who would probably be more reasonable about things.

Is this a really bad assumption? Does anyone have any horror stories about neighbours despite living in a nice affluent area or area with relatively high house prices? I know minor parking disputes are fairly commonplace regardless of where you are but any major issues anyone has experienced? I guess had we not had issues ourselves, we might never had considered it. Thanks in advance for any responses!

OP posts:
Somewhereinfragglerock · 11/06/2022 18:54

Hundred percent correct. Its only the poor and working class who could be a problem neighbour. Do you feel reassured now OP?

Haha12 · 11/06/2022 18:54

Worst neighbours we had lived in a council house other side of our bottom fence. All night parties, drink, drugs, loud music, shouting, fights. Night after night it was horrendous, police often involved. We were on the private estate and there was no bother there but it wasn't a great area generally and we heard many tales of intimidation and fear and lives destroyed by horrible neighbours. So we scraped our pennies together and moved to a private estate in a really good area and we've had no bother at all for 15 years. Everyone is working, lots of professionals, kids are all aiming for good grades at school etc etc. I suppose that's why these families have the money to buy nice houses... Cue all the accusations of snobbery (and worse)....

Realitea · 11/06/2022 18:55

I have a druggie neighbour who has been nothing but hell for us since they moved in and their house was over a million.

Happyhappyday · 11/06/2022 18:56

I live in a neighborhood where majority of houses sell considerably north of £1mil. My neighbors aren’t a nightmare but they do still have regular loud parties & have building work done frequently. Another neighbor had a skip parked in the road & huge trucks constantly for THEE YEARS blocking. My aunt lives in same neighborhood and her neighbors with a £2mil house have done substantial and very noisy renovations for the last 3 summers meaning her lovely garden is not peaceful.

MyVoiceCounts · 11/06/2022 18:56

I recently saw that an Actor has an account on TikTok, I viewed a couple of posts -nice house, looks like a nice area…then I saw a post where they are sat in the hot tub with music blaring, singing along, disco lights flashing. There was just a glimpse of the neighbours house in one post & all I could think was “poor neighbours”. I’ve googled their net worth & I imagine it’s more than yours. So no, you can’t ‘buy’ good neighbours.

BunsyGirl · 11/06/2022 19:00

We paid over £900k for our house six years ago. Large five bed detached. We had the worst neighbours we’ve ever had for two years. One of them is now in prison. The other got a suspended sentence. They were eventually convicted on an insurance fraud but this was only one of the crimes they committed. They were part of an immigration scam and there were people turning up at their house in the middle of the night trying to kill them. Armed police response on a number of occasions. Plus other low level “bad” behaviour and a general lack of consideration for others. To make it worse, when they left (they were renting) they told people in the village that everyone on our street was racist and that’s why they were leaving! It was actually because when all their scams fell apart they couldn’t pay the rent! Plus the fact that the people that they scammed were after them!

BeautifulWar · 11/06/2022 19:01

Some criminals (particularly drug addicts) are fairly well off...

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/06/2022 19:01

My sister lives in a massive house in the country. The neighbouring farmer is an awful cunt and they've had to put up with him for years, with no end in sight.

I live in a 2bed council house in the inner city. My neighbours are great.😁

Ohyessiricanboogie20 · 11/06/2022 19:02

I grew up in a very affluent area and had both nice had horrendous neighbours (more horrendous than nice as it happened) When I bought my first flat it was in a very run down area again had both nice and horrendous neighbours. Have since lived in a pretty average area and have had mostly nice neighbours. In my experience people who want to be arseholes will do so regardless of income/wealth and the neighbours you get is all luck of the draw.

BeautifulWar · 11/06/2022 19:02

Dealers, not addicts! Although there are also well off addicts too - shock horror!

dworky · 11/06/2022 19:03

Awkward, inconsiderate people come in all classes.

Roarsomemore · 11/06/2022 19:06

I'm hoping to move soon and this is something on my mind. My current neighbours are fantastic but we need more space. They said the people in our house before us were awful so they don't want us to go either. 🙁

ladydimitrescu · 11/06/2022 19:07

Twenty mins from me, a man killed his neighbours over a row about parking.

House prices similar to ones you mentioned.

YABU- and quite horrible tbh.

AdifferentGoat · 11/06/2022 19:12

If you end up living next to my soon to be ex, you'll be back here wondering where you went wrong in life 😆

Lanawashington · 11/06/2022 19:13

PIL’s bought their house for £1.5 million. Their closest neighbours were nightmares. Loud parties, stealing parcels, aggressive dogs, fireworks in the middle of the day, constantly being raided by the police. Our neighbours on our estate are some of the nicest people we’ve ever met

12cats · 11/06/2022 19:15

I think you're right in the sense that your immediate neighbours will also have just spent a similar amount and want to look after their own new house better than if someone was staying temporarily.

We bought a new build and the families either side were excited to be moving there, and wanting to make friends with others in the same boat, at the same time (literally all moved in on the same day).

However, you can't say how people will behave or what they will believe or prioritise based on how much their house costs, without stereotyping.

Of course, stereotypes do come about based on similar values and actions of groups based on their experiences and circumstances and it's just the case that the people in our row of houses all spent about the same (much less than you're talking) and treat each other respectfully. The 'affordable' house right behind appears to contain the worst attitudes towards other people I've ever come across, with neglect of their own children topping the list. Thankfully, the mix of people meant something was done.

shaggpilecarpet · 11/06/2022 19:15

I lived on a pretty rough council estate until I got married and moved to the posh end of town. Without a doubt living at the posh end is the best. Take no notice of the 'salt of the earth bullshit'. My mum and dad continued to live on the drug addled council estate until they passed, I couldn't care for them properly because if I tried to park my car outside it would get robbed

DirtyteaCup · 11/06/2022 19:17

I have 2 homes.
1 is ex LA with about 30% still LA
1 is very large detached houses- all a £million plus on a road in the North of England

The ex LA has just the best neighbours and no trouble.
The other road has not so good neighbours (and no community).

pushingpoppies · 11/06/2022 19:18

People on benefits, people who haven't currently got a job... Yes, OP, thank god you can spirit away from these scum of the earth in your fairy castle

pushingpoppies · 11/06/2022 19:20

What is the actual point of this disgusting thread? It's to bash working class people or people on hard times while you all get to show off how fucking rich you are to live in the 'posh' bit. Really, take a good look at yourselves

InChocolateWeTrust · 11/06/2022 19:20

Yabu.

I live in one of the most expensive parts of the country. I've lived in much more deprived areas so had experience of both.

You can just as many neighbour issues in either. There are arseholes at every income level.

In my current posh area there's everything from:

  • noisy dogs
  • disruptive home renovations
  • thinly veiled racism, from older people especially
  • rat issues due to all the people keeping chickens
  • arguments over fence/tree maintenance
  • naice families where parents are regularly away and teens throw loud parties every time they are
  • lots of loud expensive parties with noisy fireworks, with or without teens
  • plenty of drunkenness
Octomore · 11/06/2022 19:21

Ferrarilover · 11/06/2022 17:54

People will flame you as they assume snobbery, but to be honest, I think you stand a better chance of reasonable neighbours at this price range, depending on the area. In some areas, houses in this price range can very modest and built very close to neighbouring properties.

If you are buying a detached house, then you avoid disputes over bordering fences and hedges, and if the houses are set well apart from each other, the chances of avoiding quarrels rises.

Just my opinion.

This makes no sense. I have lived in two detached homes, and both had bordering fences/hedges. How else do you think the garden is divided from the neighbour's garden?

plainwhitecheese · 11/06/2022 19:25

uis · 11/06/2022 18:49

Thanks to those of you who have directly responded to my questions.

I forget that on MN you need to spell things out or explain a specific scenario to death or people pounce and take it out of context or just feel the need to get something 🙄 Most of the comments are par for the course whenever anyone raises anything to do with money on MN so I won't address those.

I wasn't ignorant that I thought there would be no disputes if you paid above a certain amount for a house but I guess I was most interested in understanding what sort of disputes people might have encountered/expected at the £600-800k bracket as obviously this might be different to disputes on say a terraced road or a private house where houses are £2m+.

To be honest I wouldn't care if my neighbours were young working professionals snorting coke as that would impact me less than someone drug dealing but it's interesting to see that across the board I guess loud parties and noisy music can happen across any road or area regardless of price (though I sort of expected that). We're still quite young so hopefully in time we can get to the million+ houses and at least now I know what to look out for!

My parents paid over 850k for their house. Detached, only 5 houses on the road. All set back off the road.
They have one neighbour who screams at her kids and the dog every day and night. Screaches everything, shoes on!! Close the door!!! Come and get your dinner!!!
My mum can hear her from inside her house if mum has windows open.

Said house also has a (e we think) drug dealing son

Another of the neighbours may well be classed as ' not right in the head' as you said.

And then another neighbour has massive parties that last all night, including loads of cars parked everywhere, rubbish and vomit on the streets and people out in the street at all hours, at least once every couple of months

As others have said. Money can't buy class

antelopevalley · 11/06/2022 19:27

The worst neighbour dispute I ever read about was someone living in a large and very expensive detached house and a Hells Angel motorcycle gang moved in next door.

SafelySoftly · 11/06/2022 19:28

House around the £750k mark here. Neighbours are an absolute nightmare, coming and going at all hours, completely disruptive building work, parking wars. You are deluded and snobbish with it.