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to be fed up and genuinely mindblown by all this Prince Louis drama??

236 replies

Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 09/06/2022 21:01

I have a 4YO almost exactly his age... please tell me that most people don't think that his behaviour was that of a future delinquent?! I honestly don't see much problematic or out of the ordinary about his behaviour especially after hours of being made to sit still.

Some of it wasn't ideal don't get me wrong but it's absolutely in keeping with my own dd who I believe to be absolutely typically developing and on the whole becoming an incredible, mature, kind and loving little girl

Also, what's with all the ownership being on his mum to keep him toeing the line?! Are we really still that behind the times?

Is this one of those situations where people are just talking shit about him because they're jealous of the RF? Or does anyone actually think that his behaviour was especially divergent from most kids his age? I'm genuinely interested and wondering how much to worry about my own kid 🙈🤣

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worriedatthistime · 10/06/2022 14:58

@Bramshott have you not seen some comments on this post as well
There are a fair few criticising but then thats SM for you everyone thinks they can tel others how great they are and how shit they are ,

TooBigForMyBoots · 10/06/2022 15:06

I have a 4yo. It was like watching my son on the TV with the added bonus of actually having him being grumpy and argumentative with me in person, at that moment.🙈

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 10/06/2022 15:18

They might be born into the Royal Family but they are just children & behave like typical children with age related behaviours & different personalities.
It was just seeing any other family at an event with their children except this family have to be in 'job' mode whenever they are out in public & people are right - imagine the furore in the media that it would have caused if Kate or William had really given Louis a good telling off, chucked him over their shoulders & took him home.

They can do that in private when millions of cameras around the world are not trained on them but not during one of the biggest & important 'work' events in the 'the Firm'

I reckon as pps have commented that Kate most likely did want to take a bag with colouring books, little toys & maybe an iPad but was talked out of it by the 'Grey Suits'
She'll put her foot down next time & say to the suits "'I'm his mother, I know best so we are taking the activity bag, end of"

sunglassesonthetable · 10/06/2022 15:18

@TooBigForMyBoots

But the relief of knowing you're not televised 😁

Sceptre86 · 10/06/2022 15:27

I thought he was behaving like my own 4 year old would, except mine would have probably been out of his seat a lot more so I wouldn't have subjected him to it. The only bit I thought was naughty was putting his hand over his mum face, that in my opinion was rude and my kids would have got time out or the equivalent for that.

The reaction in the media was overwhelmingly positive, it was twitter where people where judging a 4 year old very harshly in my opinion for being a child.

Kd44 · 10/06/2022 15:39

If you were genuinely mindblown you would be dead.

anon2334 · 10/06/2022 16:24

Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 10/06/2022 08:06

Thank you! Generally people also seem to be saying it's totally normal. However there have been people suggesting he has ASD (ridiculous! He blatantly doesn't. I've been at airshows as a kid and those fighter planes are impressive but bloody loud!) And then there's the inevitable 'my kid would never have done that' brigade.

I don't follow them religiously but I think Wills and Kate are very patient with the media and quite savvy at knowing how to show the media just enough of their kids to placate them. If they start to paint their perfectly normal and delightful young child as a troublemaker though I can see them undersrandably more reserved and I'd want them to shelter him from this ...

He blatantly doesn't have asd! Who the heck are you too diagnosed from a tv scene and does it matter if he does in the future get a diagnosis or not. At 4 many children ASD or not behave the same but your audacity to say say blatantly doesn't is just rude as if having ASD is clearly visible from TV scenes. Honestly pathetic. And there is nothing wrong with having ASD as well OK.

Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 10/06/2022 16:28

Kd44 · 10/06/2022 15:39

If you were genuinely mindblown you would be dead.

Oh do get a life!

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Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 10/06/2022 16:34

anon2334 · 10/06/2022 16:24

He blatantly doesn't have asd! Who the heck are you too diagnosed from a tv scene and does it matter if he does in the future get a diagnosis or not. At 4 many children ASD or not behave the same but your audacity to say say blatantly doesn't is just rude as if having ASD is clearly visible from TV scenes. Honestly pathetic. And there is nothing wrong with having ASD as well OK.

Nope I'm saying that just coz he covered his ears when massive fighter planes came roaring past doesn't mean he has ASD. I couldn't care less whether he does or doesn't tbh I just find it irritating that any child displays the remotest bit undesirable behaviour and the default response seems to be 'something something ASD' without considering it for the significant diagnosis it is

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MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 10/06/2022 19:07

I've just seen the full video on Instagram, before he sticks his tongue out her she leans over and pulls his thumb out of his mouth. He's clearly shattered hence the thumb sucking and he's just sitting there minding his own business and she yanks out his thumb! She should have just let him be.

JellyBellyNelly · 10/06/2022 19:12

Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 10/06/2022 16:34

Nope I'm saying that just coz he covered his ears when massive fighter planes came roaring past doesn't mean he has ASD. I couldn't care less whether he does or doesn't tbh I just find it irritating that any child displays the remotest bit undesirable behaviour and the default response seems to be 'something something ASD' without considering it for the significant diagnosis it is

I read the very first posts regarding the reaction to the aircraft going over and my initial reaction was that the posters were at the stage in their child’s autism journey that anything and everything done by other children could mean they were on the spectrum. They were just inexperienced as parents as well as parents of a child on the spectrum. I’d been there myself many many years ago and could see it and I just didn’t have the heart to try and correct them.

lollipoprainbow · 11/06/2022 09:52

@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor he also had Charlotte bossily telling him off also, no wonder he was fed up.

astbdjlutcchjj · 11/06/2022 10:59

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 10/06/2022 19:07

I've just seen the full video on Instagram, before he sticks his tongue out her she leans over and pulls his thumb out of his mouth. He's clearly shattered hence the thumb sucking and he's just sitting there minding his own business and she yanks out his thumb! She should have just let him be.

That is a shame. I would have just left him.

nalabae · 11/06/2022 11:02

Mind your business

DFOD · 11/06/2022 12:45

Seems likely couple of things happening at once:

Normal 4 year old behaviour at the end of a very hectic week during a looooong seated performance.

It became apparent this was too much and he became understandably restless.

Parents and extended family chip in to manage the restlessness (uncle Mike, Charles etc) - all fine - as adults need to take responsibility for their possibly unrealistic expectations of him and for putting him in a stressful situation for a 4 year old.

That’s all the restless stuff.

The hand over mother’s mouth, nose snubbing and tongue stuff crossed a line IMHO. That part wasn’t cute or restless. It needed addressing and it was - effectively - because it didn’t escalate further. No need to judge the parent on the DCs action but can have an opinion on how they dealt with it and I believe they did. I personally was shocked at the nose snubbing but read elsewhere that the pap photographers do this to the children all the time to get a reaction - which if true is really shocking and must be both terrifying and distressing.

The Mike Tindal eyes thing made me laugh - as it indicated to me that they have a fun and familiar extended family relationship and I expect MT in his world of sport is very familiar with the antics of spirited little boys.

I thought it was lovely to see all of the generations of cousins and newborns together. Zara Tindall stood out as someone really happy, relaxed and radiant.

I think some people are wising up to media tactics of dog whistle where content looks bland on the surface but certain groups or individual haterz in the general public pile on in the comments section or SM to write extreme views. Just need to be wary and careful not to engage or inadvertently amplify their nonsense as you then are a part of achieving their goals for them. Leave the key board warriors in their little slurry pit.

lollipoprainbow · 11/06/2022 12:49

@DFOD totally agree, I didn't find the way he behaved endearing or cute in any way. Charlotte poked her tongue out at photographers once and told them 'your not invited' when they photographed her at a royal christening cant remember whose. I find her very bossy and over confident.

Kd44 · 11/06/2022 14:59

Literally and generally. The most abused words of the British language. They must sit in the pup with apostrophes and lament the decline in people's ability to speak 😀

CPL593H · 11/06/2022 15:26

lollipoprainbow · 11/06/2022 12:49

@DFOD totally agree, I didn't find the way he behaved endearing or cute in any way. Charlotte poked her tongue out at photographers once and told them 'your not invited' when they photographed her at a royal christening cant remember whose. I find her very bossy and over confident.

Charlotte was 3 when she did that. 3.

I feel sorry for these kids coming under the scrutiny of The Perfect Parents Of The World, I really do.

Fidodidit · 11/06/2022 15:36

I’d much rather be Archie & Lilibet

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2022 17:56

I find her very bossy and over confident.

Priceless 👆

OrangeBagel · 12/06/2022 19:01

“I find her very bossy and over confident”

😂

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 12/06/2022 20:30

Fidodidit · 11/06/2022 15:36

I’d much rather be Archie & Lilibet

What luck! I'm sure I've read Harry and Meghan are going to adopt people who go on to threads to criticise their nephew and instead praise their DCs...Hmm Oh, nope, they didn't. They actually asked people to stop comparing both families. No luck OP. Your dream will remain unfulfilled.

CPL593H · 12/06/2022 20:49

@DaisyQuakeJohnson I've followed this thread and at no point does the OP mention Harry and Meghan.

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 12/06/2022 20:50

What a shame then that you couldn't work out I was replying to the person I had quoted and had typed OP by mistake. Hmm

CPL593H · 12/06/2022 20:51

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 12/06/2022 20:50

What a shame then that you couldn't work out I was replying to the person I had quoted and had typed OP by mistake. Hmm

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