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to be fed up and genuinely mindblown by all this Prince Louis drama??

236 replies

Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 09/06/2022 21:01

I have a 4YO almost exactly his age... please tell me that most people don't think that his behaviour was that of a future delinquent?! I honestly don't see much problematic or out of the ordinary about his behaviour especially after hours of being made to sit still.

Some of it wasn't ideal don't get me wrong but it's absolutely in keeping with my own dd who I believe to be absolutely typically developing and on the whole becoming an incredible, mature, kind and loving little girl

Also, what's with all the ownership being on his mum to keep him toeing the line?! Are we really still that behind the times?

Is this one of those situations where people are just talking shit about him because they're jealous of the RF? Or does anyone actually think that his behaviour was especially divergent from most kids his age? I'm genuinely interested and wondering how much to worry about my own kid 🙈🤣

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Andromachehadabadday · 10/06/2022 08:10

Ducksinthebath · 10/06/2022 08:06

Also, what's with all the ownership being on his mum to keep him toeing the line?! Are we really still that behind the times?

This hasn’t been my impression at all. Lots of praise for how the Duchess of Cambridge handled things, sure, but then she was sitting next to him. I’ve also seen articles praising William, Charles and Mike Tindall for their interactions with Louis at the pageant.

I did laugh at the photo of Mike Tindall communicating with Louis. I could imagine my brother doing that with my kids or me to his.

I though all the photos were quite lively and showed a far more normal family than we normally see.

A580Hojas · 10/06/2022 08:10

I can honestly say, hand on heart, that I haven't seen or heard any Prince Louis drama. I get my news mainly from the radio or BBC TV. If I want to know more I will read an article in one of the broadsheets.

I've never been anywhere near Twatter thank God.

carefullycourageous · 10/06/2022 08:10

I don't follow them religiously but I think Wills and Kate are very patient with the media and quite savvy at knowing how to show the media just enough of their kids to placate them. Given the RF depend on the media to maintain the public's interest in the firm, I don't think it is selfless of them to do this - they are desperate to get us to focus on 'not Charles' and their more problematic demographic is younger people.

Wheeling out the kids and trying to pretend they parent 'normally' (whatever that means) is an important part of the RF survival strategy.

TheKeatingFive · 10/06/2022 08:12

There are a lot of people out there with no clue about how normal small children behave.

Sally872 · 10/06/2022 08:13

I have only read positve comments about Louis. He wasn't perfect but definitely well behaved. All i have read is how he is star of the show.

3amAndImStillAwake · 10/06/2022 08:13

Ducksinthebath · 10/06/2022 08:06

Also, what's with all the ownership being on his mum to keep him toeing the line?! Are we really still that behind the times?

This hasn’t been my impression at all. Lots of praise for how the Duchess of Cambridge handled things, sure, but then she was sitting next to him. I’ve also seen articles praising William, Charles and Mike Tindall for their interactions with Louis at the pageant.

The criticism I've seen of his general upbringing has focused pretty much exclusively on Kate.

Obviously the people commenting have no idea on his upbringing, but the comments I've seen have been along the lines of "what kind of parenting does Kate do to have a child who thinks he can behave like that". They've not focused on Kate at the jubilee itself, but that she should have done a better job over the rest of his life so that he was better behaved and then she wouldn't have needed to do anything at the jubilee.

MichaelAndEagle · 10/06/2022 08:13

The only media I've seen is people saying how cute, funny, normal it was. Who is saying otherwise?

LaMarschallin · 10/06/2022 08:13

I remember behaving quite badly as a child when we visited people as I knew my parents wouldn't discipline me to the same extent as when we were at home.
My mother perhaps felt she couldn't shout as much or whatever.
Obviously, I knew I'd get told off on the way home, but that was a long way in the future to my young mind...

I suspect Louis knew he'd get away with a lot more in public and just couldn't stop himself. He was also probably mightily bored. Certainly I channel-hopped a lot during the show, so it didn't hold this adult's attention.

I've no idea why being naughty and pulling faces at his mother would make anyone think he's got autistic symptoms.

22N · 10/06/2022 08:15

He lit up the show.

Anyone suggesting there is something wrong with him is clearly trolling or wildly out of touch.

Thethreecs · 10/06/2022 08:15

Tbh I watched him and smiled as it brought back good memories of my 5 when they were that age. The 2-3yrs was a blooming nightmare as they were just behaviours that looked like a naughty child. I always say terrible 2s and 3s. But from 4yrs they start really developing their little personalities and sense of humor.

The child did extremely well. I was watching thinking, God, I would have had a bag of something and everything to entertain them. Back when mine were that age it wasn't electronics, it was colouring books, books, toys, cars, dolls etc. Then there was snacks, drinks etc. Their bag was bigger than mine. Every parent was the same. The RF had nothing, there was no obvious signs that they did so really Louis did much better than most as he did not have anything to distract or keep him entertained. I did laugh at him going from the seat, to Kate, to William to Charles, same what we all do, pass them around who ever is there and everyone does their own entertaining and trying to distract them. The only difference is we don't have camera's and the world watching our every move to ensure we're not getting angry or still smiling or just watching and reporting our every move.

A lot of what they were doing and watching wasn't child friendly, it was more aimed at adults. I know they're raised in an environment where they are mini adults but I really do hope that Kate and William change this and let the world see that yes, kids pull faces, kids get bored, kids would rather sit on your head and climb the seats instead of sitting still. I think the public would appreciate that and respect them more knowing that their kids are just like ours.

Please don't worry about your child. Anyone who has children have experienced similar behaviour.

fredajir · 10/06/2022 08:15

Remind me why there's a royal section again. That's right, it's so we don't have to read this banal sort of thing.

lollipoprainbow · 10/06/2022 08:17

His behaviour was normal as opposed to being autistic?? No wonder there's still so much stigma about autism, so what if he is, would that be so terrible? It might make the royal family more relatable.

notacooldad · 10/06/2022 08:19

I keep seeing posts suggesting he has Autism
I haven't seen them. All ive seen is what do people expect from a kid who is 4!🤷‍♀️

JaneJeffer · 10/06/2022 08:19

He was brilliant entertainment. I loved when he asked if he could sit on Charles' lap and then he was happy as could be.

Yodaisawally · 10/06/2022 08:19

fredajir · 10/06/2022 08:15

Remind me why there's a royal section again. That's right, it's so we don't have to read this banal sort of thing.

Scroll on by...,

notacooldad · 10/06/2022 08:21

Remind me why there's a royal section again. That's right, it's so we don't have to read this banal sort of thing
Since when was the AIBU section used appropriately?
It's always been full of people being tenuous with their AIBU questions.

Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 10/06/2022 08:22

fredajir · 10/06/2022 08:15

Remind me why there's a royal section again. That's right, it's so we don't have to read this banal sort of thing.

It must be a sad and difficult life to feel forced to make the effort to write a response to something that you regard as banal... Perhaps one day you might realise that your voice isn't so important or wanted that it's necessary to comment on such things...

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PaddingtonBearStareAgain · 10/06/2022 08:23

ThreeonaHill · 10/06/2022 07:53

I think he was cute and it's nice to see something in the news that isn't depressing.

All the behaviour seemed perfectly reasonable to me and Kate needs a medal for keeping smiling throughout. William, not so much. Not a lot of evidence of the hands on father 😆

He spent time sat with William on his knee. William also was seen talking to Charlotte and George.

He was also very 'hands on' with Charlotte in Wales.

Arnaquer · 10/06/2022 08:23

@Ahurricaneofjacarandas well said. I haven't seen any criticism, most of the press I've seen is about how funny/ entertaining he was.

PaddingtonBearStareAgain · 10/06/2022 08:23

fredajir · 10/06/2022 08:15

Remind me why there's a royal section again. That's right, it's so we don't have to read this banal sort of thing.

Yet here you are commenting 🤦‍♀️

Whatalovelydaffodil · 10/06/2022 08:25

Quartz2208 · 10/06/2022 07:56

For me though that is kind of the point - Louis acted like pretty much every 4 year old would (and to be honest given what he was watching those older as well) - so why did they decide he should watch it. It was no way the kind of thing any 4 year old would want to watch so why make the decision to put him through it.

We see at these events an awful lot more of the Cambridge siblings then we ever did before because the monarchy I think is trying to show them off - George was wearing a suit - how many his age do that (given the looks my DS the same age gets when he decides to wear a suit on mufti days none)

Lots of boys that age wear suits for special occasions.

LaMarschallin · 10/06/2022 08:27

Yodaisawally · 10/06/2022 08:19

Scroll on by...,

Actually, I think it's a reasonable point.
I was interested in the title and didn't notice that it was in AIBU.
I think sometimes people start a thread in AIBU so that it'll get more attention.
One poster actually re-posted a thread that they'd started about the RF on the RF board to the AIBU board, as they felt they weren't getting enough replies 🤷‍♀️

From my point of view, it would be preferable to have things put on the appropriate boards as I'm more likely to find things that interest me (eg S&B or Recipes - yeah, I'm all about hard-hitting issues, me).

Tohaveandtohold · 10/06/2022 08:29

When DD1 was that age, she was such a quite child, but when she had to seat through a wedding and another time we went on the plane , we gave her an iPad to distract her because there’s no way I would expect her not to be bored.
The RF can’t do that and what happened there was just typical behaviour for a child that age who is bored. The mum handled this as best as she could in my opinion

Topseyt123 · 10/06/2022 08:34

Louis is a very normal 4 year old.

People talk as though only Louis has ever behaved like this but I am an old gimmer and I clearly remember William as a page boy at (I think) Prince Andrew's wedding to Fergie. He was around the same age as Louis, maybe very slightly older, and he behaved in a very similar way.

It's totally normal.

Turquoisesea · 10/06/2022 08:35

I thought it was completely normal 4 year old behaviour. Even though they are royals they all have different personalities. If he had just sat there and not said a word people would have criticised saying poor child not being allowed to be a child. I don’t think they can win either way.