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to be fed up and genuinely mindblown by all this Prince Louis drama??

236 replies

Ahurricaneofjacarandas · 09/06/2022 21:01

I have a 4YO almost exactly his age... please tell me that most people don't think that his behaviour was that of a future delinquent?! I honestly don't see much problematic or out of the ordinary about his behaviour especially after hours of being made to sit still.

Some of it wasn't ideal don't get me wrong but it's absolutely in keeping with my own dd who I believe to be absolutely typically developing and on the whole becoming an incredible, mature, kind and loving little girl

Also, what's with all the ownership being on his mum to keep him toeing the line?! Are we really still that behind the times?

Is this one of those situations where people are just talking shit about him because they're jealous of the RF? Or does anyone actually think that his behaviour was especially divergent from most kids his age? I'm genuinely interested and wondering how much to worry about my own kid 🙈🤣

OP posts:
Sparklingbrook · 10/06/2022 10:58

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 10:55

@Sparklingbrook it is unrealistic to expect any four year old to sit for hours and not play up. Catherine is an early years expert and understands appropriate child development.

What’s your point?

KindergartenKop · 10/06/2022 10:58

The people saying this have never had a 4yo! Or they have forgotten the difference between being 4 and being 8. He's also only just 4, he's not even in reception yet!

FacebookPhotos · 10/06/2022 10:59

I thought it was funny when he was playing up. I have smirked at my siblings' children behaving the same way at events too (apaz it doesn't help your sister if you openly laugh at her misbehaving child). The vast majority of children are rude sometimes - manners aren't innate human qualities, they have to be taught by parents. That is what we saw with the Cambridges. Kate didn't just accept his behaviour or laugh, she was clearly annoyed and stopped him. Like any parent.

Dinoteeth · 10/06/2022 10:59

@Sparklingbrook I think they probably wanted to take him too. How can they tell him "Oh big brother and sis and cousins are going to see a fun parade for granny but your not"
My guess is they debated would he be OK, will he enjoy it. And nanny was in the stand as a backup plan incase he was really fed up or needed the loo. K&W couldn't exactly walk out to the loo with him.

I bet there were other 4 yos in the crowd watching.

Pollydonia · 10/06/2022 11:01

Peoplepissmeoff · 10/06/2022 09:57

I don't think his behaviour was cute at all. Putting his hand over his mother's mouth was really really rude and yet everyone just seems to be laughing about it and making excuses for him because if his age.

Have you ever met a 4 yo ?
No, its not fantastic but it was a huge weekend for him, massive amount of people, noise and attention.
His mum dealt with it.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/06/2022 11:01

I thought he behaved in a way perfectly in keeping with any 4 yo.

Some of it, such as covering his Mum’s mouth, being unhappy about the plans noise etc did strike me as being on keeping with sensory overload. I do have an 8 yo with ADHD and the specific way Louis reacted to things reminded me of him at that age, but at the same time I think those were probably genuine young child behaviours and my son just happens to age ADHD. So, it did cross my mind. But if he did have ADHD or ASD or anything that wouldn’t mean there was “something wrong with him”
ffs

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/06/2022 11:02

Excuse my typos!

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 11:04

@Dinoteeth the older children were visibly bored at times. They would have told him he did not miss anything. But telling a four year old they can't go to something is just parenting.

j712adrian · 10/06/2022 11:04

It's all Royalist bullshit - at your expense.

Moonlightdust · 10/06/2022 11:04

Absolutely. They had an action packed 4 day weekend which must have been exhausting for the adults let alone the children. Having 3 children myself I can say I found age 4 the most demanding age. I think Louis coped pretty well having to sit there for hours on end - don’t forget the children haven’t had much public experience in the past 2 years with Covid either. The huge crowds must have been pretty overwhelming.
I found his antics quite funny personally and think Kate handled it well. It was nice to see normality and a situation most mothers could relate to!

Pollydonia · 10/06/2022 11:05

Simonjt · 10/06/2022 10:39

Mine at four would have probably dived off the actual balcony.

😁
My eldest would be having a snotty tantrum at that age.
My youngest would have stuck her thumb in her gob and gone to sleep, probably twiddling my hair .

Sparklingbrook · 10/06/2022 11:07

The thing is that the main event was the pageant and it was great. Occasionally the camera was a shot of the royals and what the children were doing.
We got a few snippets which for some reason 5 days later we’re still seeing while everyone tears the parenting apart.
But the children got to go to their Great Grandmother’s celebration.

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 11:08

@Sparklingbrook my point is that Catherine would have known this was inappropriate to ask a four year old child to sit for hours at a parade. So maybe William or someone else over ruled her?
I could take my two anywhere at four years old, but I would not have expected them to sit for hours without even a toy or a colouring book. Anyone who has spent anytime at all with four year olds knows it is an unrealistic ask. Nobody who knew anything about four year olds would think he would just sit there and look the whole time.

LaMarschallin · 10/06/2022 11:09

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 10:50

It is totally typical behaviour. But I don't find him covering his mums mouth as cute or funny as some people have said.

Nor do I, but I'm not someone who thinks everything a child does is "cute", "adorable" or "precious" (the tabloids have such a limited vocabulary) just because they're a child.

Like others, I haven't seen any mention of any sort of "diagnosis" in the press, only here. I suspect it's had its origin in SM and is an underhand way of trying to spread the rumour: eg "Ooh! Isn't it awful that people are saying little Louis has ASD/ADHD/whatever...". Cue readers thinking: "Are they? I didn't know that. Has he?" (I'm not saying that's what's happening in this thread, btw, or that it would be awful if Louis had any of those things).
In the same way, I think, people are saying, "Ooh! Isn't it awful that poor Harry and Meghan were booed..." to spread the rumour or draw attention to the fact that they were booed, rather than genuinely sympathising.

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 11:10

@Sparklingbrook a lot of the pageant was boring with snippets of interest. I would have been bored sitting there for hours. There is a reason the bbc only shows highlights.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 10/06/2022 11:13

Lol. Royal Family know that they have to be relatable to survive. This is what it looks like.

Blossomtoes · 10/06/2022 11:13

minuette1 · 10/06/2022 10:05

The photos of him gurning and pulling faces (and just being a normal 4 year old) will follow him around for the rest of his life, it was a bad call involving him in the jubilee events - he didn't need to be there and no-one would have batted an eyelid at his absence.

Perhaps he’d have felt left out when his siblings were included.

Sparklingbrook · 10/06/2022 11:15

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 11:10

@Sparklingbrook a lot of the pageant was boring with snippets of interest. I would have been bored sitting there for hours. There is a reason the bbc only shows highlights.

I watched the whole thing and thought it was great as did loads of other. There was a live thread on here.

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 11:16

SpiderinaWingMirror · 10/06/2022 11:13

Lol. Royal Family know that they have to be relatable to survive. This is what it looks like.

I think you are right. It's the look we are just an ordinary family like you.

Katya213 · 10/06/2022 11:17

Got to say, I feel the same as you OP.

Katya213 · 10/06/2022 11:18

Did anyone see the footage of the Tindall girls going at it, full on slapping each other with Mike trying to intervene!

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 11:20

@Katya213 I saw Catherine having to break up a "play fight" between one of the tindalls daughters and Charlotte.

Minniem2020 · 10/06/2022 11:21

My 4 year old would've been on YouTube kids 20 minutes in.

Mookie81 · 10/06/2022 11:22

astbdjlutcchjj · 10/06/2022 10:55

@Sparklingbrook it is unrealistic to expect any four year old to sit for hours and not play up. Catherine is an early years expert and understands appropriate child development.

Catherine is an early years expert and understands appropriate child development.

Ha now I've heard it all! 😂🙄

NiqueNique · 10/06/2022 11:23

It’s perfectly normal behaviour for a little 4 year old. I’m not a permissive parent either who believes children should be left to run riot and not taught the rules of behaving well; I do absolutely believe in the merits of authoritative parenting. My children were allowed to be children when they were little and they turned out perfectly well and are happy, well-adjusted and productive adults.

He really wasn’t that badly behaved in the grand scheme of things and it’s not automatically indicative of being some kind of terror or future delinquent. Just a bit cheeky and not entirely capable yet of behaving impeccably - he’s 3 years younger than Charlotte. I have a background in child development and early years education, so I speak from wide experience when I say that as far as I’m concerned it’s not something to get het up about. Just a little boy showing a range of emotions and reactions to things during a very big and busy weekend. Not a big deal and no need to go batshit over it.

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